GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #13 *Arrest*

[Woe.be.gone]

sorry I cant be more informative about an ongoing investigation

Yes, me too. :gaah:

 

[Woe.be.gone]

IMO based on what I have read and seen.... I am sorry if my own opinions do not mesh with yours

Don't be sorry, not necessary. Am looking for answers to specific questions; not an opinion.
The only opinion I have is it is frustrating not to have answers.

Not being trying to be difficult.

:late:

 

[Woe.be.gone]

We knew LE was looking into old relationships. We knew about the ex and hf being good friends and CM and HF ending up together shortly after ex and CM had moved in together. We knew those choices probably didn't make for happy campers among the group. We know about the 'karma' exchange.

What is left to figure out is what was Christina doing out with the group if most remained upset about what had happened concerning the triangle?

Even so still doesn't clear up a lot of questions.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I have no clue what's going on. Hope LE has something!

 

[carltondance]

Relying on LE to find Christina/solve her case...not the brightest crayons in the box- intentionally so.

Well considering that same department took down a multi billion dollar illegal sports betting racket I would say they are pretty good at what they do.

 

[carltondance]

*jeopardy theme engage*

Well i am not a member of law enforcement, but seeing as we are on an anonymous forum I don't see how stating that would change your mind

 

[JnRyan]

Coming from far behind. Another hinky factor is her car was found parked where there aren't any camera angles.

It seems unusual, if Christina had a long time fear of being abducted, that she'd choose the space, of all parking places, not covered by camera angles.

The more I think about it, seems like a calculated move to park a car there when someone doesn't want to be seen parking and exiting the vehicle.

Who, besides Christina, might have parked her car in that spot? I hope LE looked into the possibility of Christina's car NOT remaining parked in the exact space it was found in since the night she went to Henry's.

The idea alone, the same car being in a shopping lot space for four days, was odd to me from the start.
Pretty unusual for a random car to go unnoticed for that amount of time. There must be a system for canvassing the parking garages.

Sorry for the late reply. I called it a night early.

I posted a news video earlier from the local NBC affiliate. Reporter was Ben Russell. In the video he points out that there are 2 cameras near where Christina's car was parked. Was the angle on one or both set to cover her spot? They don't say, but you think at least one of them would. Were all the cameras working? It was said in an earlier thread that ALL of the cameras were working, but I have not been able to find that and what the support for it was.

This is what leads me to believe Christina did not get to her car that morning. Whatever occurred happened btw the time she left EA and her car.

 

[CatsInTheCradle]

See, I don't understand why they have to be mutually exclusive. Why can't we consider that EA may not know as much as people thinks he does, or "playing violins" for him with the idea he really may NOT have had anything to do with Christina's disappearance, and yet still care about Christina and what happened to her and wanting to find out what happened to her. Why isn't there room for both?

I mean I don't know EA from Adam, so I don't know what he knows, what he doesn't. I don't know if he's more involved or if he's not. I just keep thinking that IF he is not, then he is going through his own hard time right now, being threatened with death, losing him job, being picketed, etc.

And I came here because a young lady is missing. She was out for a night of fun with people she went to school with and she disappeared, she didn't return home. She has a family, she has brothers and parents that love her, that miss her and that are terrified right now about what could have happened to her. We are trying to find out where she could be and who is involved in his disappearance. That's why we are here. It's not about defending anyone or not, it's about getting to the bottom of it. If EA had nothing to do with it, look how much time we have wasted on him when it could be spent getting to the truth.

I just don't want to put all my eggs in one basket on this quest. There are other options. It seems like there are a lot more secrets in this case, a lot more things that went on that currently we aren't privy to. There is a whole lot we can't talk about but it doesn't mean the truth isn't in that part of the story. Just because MSM has brought in one faction we can talk about, it doesn't mean it's THE part of this puzzle we need to bring Christina home. KWIM???

Respectfully bolded by me
I have been trying to convey your exact message (though not as eloquently as you have) for days now. I think this is why several people have quit posting IMO because to express any kind of objectivity about EA or to express any kind of empathy toward a possible innocent person basically puts one in an enemy camp. I was so glad to see Salem's post that differing opinions are encouraged. We all want the same thing - for Christina to be found and ultimately to be safe if that is at all possible. All of this to say, beautifully done post. Thank you.

 

[SaintGirl]

Respectfully bolded by me
I have been trying to convey your exact message (though not as eloquently as you have) for days now. I think this is why several people have quit posting IMO because to express any kind of objectivity about EA or to express any kind of empathy toward a possible innocent person basically puts one in an enemy camp. I was so glad to see Salem's post that differing opinions are encouraged. We all want the same thing - for Christina to be found and ultimately to be safe if that is at all possible. All of this to say, beautifully done post. Thank you.

I understand what you are both saying. I felt this forum was turning into a victim site for EA instead of Christina and felt if anything negative was said about EA the calvary came out guns blazing. So I understand how you feel just not for the same reasons.

I too agree all avenues should be explored and see where the cards fall. There are obviously a lot of unknowns out there to try and uncover. MOO

On that note happy Monday...

 

[CuriousinNY]

For those wondering what Christina's job description was:

from Christina's Linkedin profile:

Membership Representative

Great Expectations

April 2014 – Present (8 months)|fort worth, texas

I am a sales representative and match maker. I interview each prospect, conduct a thorough need assessment, finish qualifying the lead, find a program that best suits the prospects need and sign them up today. Develop and maintain strong relationships with each client as their match maker. Help them discover themselves while they find a partner for the type of relationship they are trying to pursue.

 

[deweesw]

she is a "friend" to Christina as well as the ex and ea...

Carlton,

What doesn't make sense to me is that CM dated ALP until about a year ago. ALP and HF were "best friends" at the time. ALP and EA were "real tight", but CM and EA didn't know each other? Did ALP and CM start dating after high school? IE: they knew of each other in HS, but didn't start dating until after. That is the only way I could see EA and CM not knowing each other. I know when I went to college, one of my buddies from HS didn't know all of my daily interactions, but he would be willing to do anything to protect me, even to this day (20 yrs later).

I live in the Plano/Allen area and understand the size of the high schools around here. I could see where this "group of friends" are really multiple circles that have crossed paths from time to time.

IMO, if my buddies ex-GF showed up somewhere and I hadn't seen her in a year+ (since they broke up), I would be sending him a text saying "guess who just showed up at Henry's".

IMO, CM was in a vulnerable state. She crying about BF cheating on her day before, "was upset about something", doing "girls night out" to remove it from her mind, desperately trying to contact BF via text/calls..... If there was a far away admirer from HS there that night, that person might see that as their chance to swoop in/hook up. If that same admirer had previous/recent relations with someone else in the group, then there would be many different tangents available here.

 

[carltondance]

Carlton,

What doesn't make sense to me is that CM dated ALP until about a year ago. ALP and HF were "best friends" at the time. ALP and EA were "real tight", but CM and EA didn't know each other? Did ALP and CM start dating after high school? IE: they knew of each other in HS, but didn't start dating until after. That is the only way I could see EA and CM not knowing each other. I know when I went to college, one of my buddies from HS didn't know all of my daily interactions, but he would be willing to do anything to protect me, even to this day (20 yrs later).

I live in the Plano/Allen area and understand the size of the high schools around here. I could see where this "group of friends" are really multiple circles that have crossed paths from time to time.

IMO, if my buddies ex-GF showed up somewhere and I hadn't seen her in a year+ (since they broke up), I would be sending him a text saying "guess who just showed up at Henry's".

IMO, CM was in a vulnerable state. She crying about BF cheating on her day before, "was upset about something", doing "girls night out" to remove it from her mind, desperately trying to contact BF via text/calls..... If there was a far away admirer from HS there that night, that person might see that as their chance to swoop in/hook up. If that same admirer had previous/recent relations with someone else in the group, then there would be many different tangents available here.

jmo, but ea was kind of wanderer around several circles. Cm and ap were together for several years before breaking up. I believe cm as many others knew ea but wasn't friends with him if that makes sense?

 

[iluvmua]

jmo, but ea was kind of wanderer around several circles. Cm and ap were together for several years before breaking up. I believe cm as many others knew ea but wasn't friends with him if that makes sense?

But she knew who he was right?

Do you know how many people at the party were friends of EA?

 

[suzyjackson]

But the public is not allowed to know the reasons why HF isn't suspicious in some peoples' eyes.
Why would knowing HF's alibi jeopardize the case? Why didn't HF tell, during his odd behavior interview, where he was Saturday morning, when he realized Christina had reached out to him, why he didn't respond to her?

It makes no sense, why HF's details - proof he's telling the truth - need to remain secret.
No one will comment on the reasons or details for why HF didn't respond or report, why not?

Driving me nuts - irrational imo.

JMO and thinking around this one possible reason if that whatever HF was doing was itself illegal and he has admitted it to LE but it can't be made public as it's part of some other ongoing investigation.

If someone's alibi is that they couldn't have committed crime A as they were committing crime B with persons X, Y and Z then it couldn't be made public until the trial of crime B.

I stress this is just a hypothetical, I'm not accusing HF of anything criminal.

As it happens I've never thought he was involved

 

[carltondance]

But she knew who he was right?

Do you know how many people at the party were friends of EA?

yeah she knew him from high school. including cm I believe there were 5 at party. At least 3 outside of cm were friends with ea, moo

 

[suzyjackson]

jmo, but ea was kind of wanderer around several circles. Cm and ap were together for several years before breaking up. I believe cm as many others knew ea but wasn't friends with him if that makes sense?

Yes, and isn't that exactly what one of the family has said from the start (and I paraphrase) just someone she knew from HS

 

[suzyjackson]

yeah she knew him from high school. including cm I believe there were 5 at party. At least 3 outside of cm were friends with ea, moo

Carlton - you change of avatar just gave me a shock when it popped up :laughing:

The carltondance had a recent revival in England when Alfonso appeared on a reality show here

 

[carltondance]

Yes, and isn't that exactly what one of the family has said from the start (and I paraphrase) just someone she knew from HS

yeah, it has
just to add, i believe a few pages back it was asked if it was a simple knew each other from school, or friends from school. Just trying to clarify that particular

 

[carltondance]

Carlton - you change of avatar just gave me a shock when it popped up :laughing:

The carltondance had a recent revival in England when Alfonso appeared on a reality show here

haha yeah brings back memories

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

If what I suspect is true (& I've always been hinting at this--especially now in light of some of the relationship histories at the party)......I fear CM was "set up" and her keys missing was true. It wasn't a ploy or excuse to contact HF----her keys really were missing!
And I think someone took them purposefully when CM wasn't looking.
IMO, she had some secret enemies there who felt they needed "vindication" or felt CM betrayed someone they are loyal to.
And then this little "key stealing" thing went awry. Maybe CM found out when alone with the person who took them? Maybe she rightfully became angry? And then the violence escalated---CM was tiny!!

Even still, I think that whoever did this has a history or a record. This is not this person's "first rodeo".
What person fits the bill out of the group?
Who has exhibited ***Narcissistic Rage*** or violent tendencies???

Not looking for direct answers----that would be a violation of TOS.
I'm just theorizing out loud. Rhetorical and all that....

Moo