GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #40 *Arrest*

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JnRyan said:
Even if we can find her backpack or bag. With that location and tracking of both EA's and Christina's cell phone pings maybe we can find her. However, I tend to believe it ended up in a dumpster.
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I think that's exactly where she ended up as well.
 
Dogface said:
Went to Henry's last night, any time I'm at the shops I think of her. My best friend shared some thoughts she had on it while we sat on the patio. She thinks the ex owed someone money, and bartered with EA for a favor to sell CM to someone for money. While I think the scenario is very unlikely, it just made me realize how we truly don't know what happened to her once that video stopped. She is somewhere, I just hope she is found. Wouldn't it be amazing if she was found in the next couple of weeks? We have had a lot of rain, maybe it will help to surface some evidence!
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I have yet to see any evidence to show any actual connection between EA and CM's boyfriend. Nor do we have anything about EA to connect him to a drug-dealing rival trying to do something against the boyfriend. Instead, his history just shows him to be a skirt-chasing perv on the prowl.

In any event, all these other mystery scenarios end up at the same place with the same perp to fry - it's EA doing the abduction and perhaps more, and she ends up IN HIS TRUNK and never being seen again. So all roads to the truth lead through EA, and a heavy sentence for what he did.

If EA is about to get 99 years, and knows it, imo he'll talk if there's anyone else to blame it on. (Personally, I think he would have already talked if he had that "someone else to blame" card up his sleeve.) But even if there's no one else, maybe he might negotiate a deal swapping her location for a cap on punishment, because without a deal I think the fact she's still missing will tend to make the abduction verdict land on the long end of the range.
 
SteveS said:
I have yet to see any evidence to show any actual connection between EA and CM's boyfriend. Nor do we have anything about EA to connect him to a drug-dealing rival trying to do something against the boyfriend. Instead, his history just shows him to be a skirt-chasing perv on the prowl.

In any event, all these other mystery scenarios end up at the same place with the same perp to fry - it's EA doing the abduction and perhaps more, and she ends up IN HIS TRUNK and never being seen again. So all roads to the truth lead through EA, and a heavy sentence for what he did.

If EA is about to get 99 years, and knows it, imo he'll talk if there's anyone else to blame it on. (Personally, I think he would have already talked if he had that "someone else to blame" card up his sleeve.) But even if there's no one else, maybe he might negotiate a deal swapping her location for a cap on punishment, because without a deal I think the fact she's still missing will tend to make the abduction verdict land on the long end of the range.
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Not only was she IHT but let's not forget she also lost some important fluids in there.
 
TexasT said:
A lot of locals believe this as well .
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I hate to think about it, but I really have thought all along that EA wouldn't go far with sunrise coming up in a short time. That he would have used a dumpster would fit in with that theory.
 
I agree not pleasant to think about . However , They mostly know his route and Extensive searches have been unsuccessful .
Then again Christopher Tennyson from plano was in a park not more then a mile from his home for almost a year before being recovered .
I don't see much chance in EA ever cooperating . Regardless conviction based on his 2 years of defiance .


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How much time passed between her going missing and being reported missing? I can't recall. But I noticed this morning, the dump trucks running to several businesses(whataburger, office max, etc.) and I don't remember hearing of any landfill searches.
 
Dogface said:
How much time passed between her going missing and being reported missing? I can't recall. But I noticed this morning, the dump trucks running to several businesses(whataburger, office max, etc.) and I don't remember hearing of any landfill searches.
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http://starlocalmedia.com/planocour...cle_7d76c272-8fac-11e4-ae35-5728221577b8.html

They met up late on Friday (29 August) and she was last seen on surveillance video early Saturday (30 August). Her father reported her missing late on Tuesday (02 September) and detectives weren't assigned until Wednesday (03 September). I can't imagine a dumpster search wouldn't be done on Wednesday with LE trying to determine where this case was going and they certainly wouldn't have EA's phone pings giving them the route. So we probably have almost an entire week when the dumpsters would be emptied. Considering all of them that would have been on EA's route early that morning and LE wouldn't have his route for at least a couple of weeks there was plenty of time.

Both of their cell phones are pinging near Granite Parkway just before 0500 that morning. EA would probably have an hour or less before it started to have more light out just before sunrise. Not likely having planned this in advance, he probably had no clue as to how much time he really had and panic might set in at that point. Yeah, I don't see him going very far.
 
I keep thinking about the bite mark on EA that was stated in the affidavit a coworker had seen. Do we know if this has been confirmed/seen/documented by LE? I think if it has it will be a big help to convict, because you don't get a bite mark unless a young child bites you or you are assaulting someone and they had to fight back with any means possible. I really hope she could be found. Is anyone going to the trial?
 
Some extreme things mentioned in that DMN article, some of which I had never seen in print before. They fit with the predatory nature of EA that keeps being glimpsed, and perhaps help explain what/why in this case:

"Court documents suggest that prosecutors will be looking to show a darker side of Arochi. A search of his phone, computer and cloud account included possession of sexually deviant photographs and videos over a two-year period. He also engaged in sexually deviant behavior, including strangling his partners during sex, documents say.

Arochi faces a separate charge of sexual assault of a child after being accused of having sex with a 16-year-old girl in 2012. That case is set for trial in December.

Items collected from a search of Arochi's home in Allen suggest he was also involved in the practice of hechizo. The documents provide no context for the Spanish word, which carries a range of definitions from an enchantment or spell to "a belief in magical spells that harness occult forces or evil spirits." "
 
I'm happy that the trial starts soon, it's been a long time. I hope that truth is exposed and justice served. I'll admit that I'm taken back by the article though. I hope that they don't try to convict him because he was a horny teenager. I understand that there is likely much more 'fact based' evidence than has been shared so far, I worry that it's not compelling however, otherwise the need for the 'darker side' narrative wouldn't exist.

The time between watching them walk casually into the garage and the 'kidnapping' is 3 or 4 minutes. That would require cold blooded violence. The narrative is rough, somewhat freaky consensual sex, but it doesn't seem cold blooded to me.
 
Doj1234 said:
I'm happy that the trial starts soon, it's been a long time. I hope that truth is exposed and justice served. I'll admit that I'm taken back by the article though. I hope that they don't try to convict him because he was a horny teenager. I understand that there is likely much more 'fact based' evidence than has been shared so far, I worry that it's not compelling however, otherwise the need for the 'darker side' narrative wouldn't exist.

The time between watching them walk casually into the garage and the 'kidnapping' is 3 or 4 minutes. That would require cold blooded violence. The narrative is rough, somewhat freaky consensual sex, but it doesn't seem cold blooded to me.
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Respectfully, I find ludicrous any idea that EA was just some sort of "horny teenager." He was well past the teen-aged years, but regardless of age, "I was horny" isn't an excuse to rape or murder or abduct to get sex. Nor would this be a case of consensual sex bringing some sort of undue accusation against this creep - there's no evidence whatsoever to support those narratives, and that includes the glaring fact that despite his willingness to invent stories, EA himself hasn't claimed any such thing. Ever.

She certainly wouldn't have been forced and placed IN HIS TRUNK for consensual sex. Or for any other reason that was in her best interest.

However, your point that he was able to do something like this so quickly is a great one. That's a scary fact, hinting at perhaps more "experience" than we know. And that certainly underscores how crucial it is to lock this creep up forever to protect other young women. Or maybe eventually fry him. The more we learn about EA, the more we see a sexual predator who has been roaming here, culminating in him putting our girl IN HIS TRUNK from which she was never seen or heard from again. That can't be allowed to happen to someone else.
 
SteveS said:
Some extreme things mentioned in that DMN article, some of which I had never seen in print before. They fit with the predatory nature of EA that keeps being glimpsed, and perhaps help explain what/why in this case:

"Court documents suggest that prosecutors will be looking to show a darker side of Arochi. A search of his phone, computer and cloud account included possession of sexually deviant photographs and videos over a two-year period. He also engaged in sexually deviant behavior, including strangling his partners during sex, documents say.

Arochi faces a separate charge of sexual assault of a child after being accused of having sex with a 16-year-old girl in 2012. That case is set for trial in December.

Items collected from a search of Arochi's home in Allen suggest he was also involved in the practice of hechizo. The documents provide no context for the Spanish word, which carries a range of definitions from an enchantment or spell to "a belief in magical spells that harness occult forces or evil spirits." "
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However, IIRC none of the information from his phone (Google etc), in regards to sexually explicit material, will be allowed at the trial. I believe that is one of the only motions the defense won at the hearings, a few weeks ago. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
zippixx said:
However, IIRC none of the information from his phone (Google etc), in regards to sexually explicit material, will be allowed at the trial. I believe that is one of the only motions the defense won at the hearings, a few weeks ago. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Yes, some of the things we have have learned about EA, from searches, may not be allowed to be shown to the jury. Maybe. Sometimes evidence that is suppressed in one way or via one search can be obtained and used another way. And to be clear, the door to that general line of evidence wasn't closed, only to the use of some specific items obtained in a specific way. We won't really know until trial how much of his not-at-all-innocent character and predatory pursuits they'll be able to get in front of the jury, but it could be a lot.
 
SteveS said:
Respectfully, I find ludicrous any idea that EA was just some sort of "horny teenager." He was well past the teen-aged years, but regardless of age, "I was horny" isn't an excuse to rape or murder or abduct to get sex. Nor would this be a case of consensual sex bringing some sort of undue accusation against this creep - there's no evidence whatsoever to support those narratives, and that includes the glaring fact that despite his willingness to invent stories, EA himself hasn't claimed any such thing. Ever.

She certainly wouldn't have been forced and placed IN HIS TRUNK for consensual sex. Or for any other reason that was in her best interest.

However, your point that he was able to do something like this so quickly is a great one. That's a scary fact, hinting at perhaps more "experience" than we know. And that certainly underscores how crucial it is to lock this creep up forever to protect other young women. Or maybe eventually fry him. The more we learn about EA, the more we see a sexual predator who has been roaming here, culminating in him putting our girl IN HIS TRUNK from which she was never seen or heard from again. That can't be allowed to happen to someone else.
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About the timing, do we know for definite that she left the garage IHT or as a willing passenger? I seem to remember some discussion that she wasn't visible when the car exited and that something happened elsewhere, possibly the location where both their phones pinged?

There is evidence that EA had been in a fight and I don't think that happened in the garage given the short amount of time.

My memory is failing.
 
Steleheart said:
About the timing, do we know for definite that she left the garage IHT or as a willing passenger? I seem to remember some discussion that she wasn't visible when the car exited and that something happened elsewhere, possibly the location where both their phones pinged?

There is evidence that EA had been in a fight and I don't think that happened in the garage given the short amount of time.

My memory is failing.
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LE thinks (or, more properly, believed at one point) she was in his trunk when he exited the garage. That's based on the wording in their affidavits. But it's unknown as to exactly how they based that conclusion at the time.

There could certainly be much evidence we don't know, that forces the outline of events in one direction or another. We don't know what we don't know. Personally I do believe there was indeed a major struggle. But I do think that any combo of in/out of trunk at outset, and fight at/not at garage, is definitely possible. There is time, and there are plenty of ways, for any combo to have happened, and the events of that night didn't necessarily happen in the most likely way, but only in some possible way. Time up front is plenteous because he was much bigger, and we have to consider he possibly had the aid of some drug or gas or weapon to subdue her rather quickly. Also, he had the ability to know where she was headed, and act in anticipation, which was to her car.

For example, say he opens his trunk and says "Hey, come look at this" and then bonks her or sprays her or chloroforms her or whatever - that would take mere seconds. Or say he tries to grab her, she hits and bites, and THEN he knocks her out. The ending could be quick, so the setup could have taken a few in which he took some damage. Or maybe he thinks she is KO'd, then as he is stuffing her in his trunk, she bites and scratches and claws and he has to re-subdue her. Alternately, I could see her being subdued at the outset, stuffed in the trunk, but then The Fight happening when he stopped somewhere and she tried to escape.

My analysis? IMO it doesn't matter exactly when (to the minute) she was forced or placed in his trunk, but only that they prove she was IN HIS TRUNK (which, of course, is the crime of abduction). And the fact she was never seen or heard from again, to me that's a huge fact too that needs to be hammered home, since IN HIS TRUNK was the last place she was ever known to be. She was not there without his knowledge, and she didn't leave there without him knowing how/why/when/where - all of which speaks to the appropriate severity of punishment for him, since she's not been seen since. My punishment that fits the crime, is that he doesn't deserve any chance to roam the streets as long as she isn't home and able to do the same.
 
SteveS said:
LE thinks (or, more properly, believed at one point) she was in his trunk when he exited the garage. That's based on the wording in their affidavits. But it's unknown as to exactly how they based that conclusion at the time.

There could certainly be much evidence we don't know, that forces the outline of events in one direction or another. We don't know what we don't know. Personally I do believe there was indeed a major struggle. But I do think that any combo of in/out of trunk at outset, and fight at/not at garage, is definitely possible. There is time, and there are plenty of ways, for any combo to have happened, and the events of that night didn't necessarily happen in the most likely way, but only in some possible way. Time up front is plenteous because he was much bigger, and we have to consider he possibly had the aid of some drug or gas or weapon to subdue her rather quickly. Also, he had the ability to know where she was headed, and act in anticipation, which was to her car.

For example, say he opens his trunk and says "Hey, come look at this" and then bonks her or sprays her or chloroforms her or whatever - that would take mere seconds. Or say he tries to grab her, she hits and bites, and THEN he knocks her out. The ending could be quick, so the setup could have taken a few in which he took some damage. Or maybe he thinks she is KO'd, then as he is stuffing her in his trunk, she bites and scratches and claws and he has to re-subdue her. Alternately, I could see her being subdued at the outset, stuffed in the trunk, but then The Fight happening when he stopped somewhere and she tried to escape.

My analysis? IMO it doesn't matter exactly when (to the minute) she was forced or placed in his trunk, but only that they prove she was IN HIS TRUNK (which, of course, is the crime of abduction). And the fact she was never seen or heard from again, to me that's a huge fact too that needs to be hammered home, since IN HIS TRUNK was the last place she was ever known to be. She was not there without his knowledge, and she didn't leave there without him knowing how/why/when/where - all of which speaks to the appropriate severity of punishment for him, since she's not been seen since. My punishment that fits the crime, is that he doesn't deserve any chance to roam the streets as long as she isn't home and able to do the same.
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I had always pictured it as he slugged her in the nose and stuffed her inside, a broken nose would leave her DNA inside there. Then when he stopped and opened the trunk she came out fighting and injuring him.
In an abduction, the perpetrator needs immediate compliance with force, IMO.

Just my thoughts.
 
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