GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #40 *Arrest*

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JnRyan, in lining up map, route, and pings, there is potentially an extra 30 mins in the timeline. I find this the most significant gap of time where potentially the attack on Christina happened. It took 10 mins to get from garage to Custer but 40 mins to get back to 5800 Granite going off ping data. I do agree EA isn't this smart but lucky. If we take his car damage into consideration, we need look at low lying/bottoms areas where damage might have occurred.

How far away from a tower can a phone ping? Like radius of 5 miles or? I'm lost on cell data. I keep going back to both phones pinging same tower 9 mins apart.
 
With these motions and wiping his phone, definitely something bigger being hidden. I agree it points a possibility of someone else involved and could explain why another is in jail on nonrelated charges. He wants cell tower data suppressed too to hide where Christina is. So is it safe to say last ping of Christina was 5800 Granite tower?
 
jennapuppy said:
What is "A Specific Brandy request"? I've never heard of such a thing.
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Probably a typo for "Brady" disclosure - a request for certain evidence which may be favorable to the defense, to which the defense may be entitled under Constitutional protections, and which has not yet been given them.

In other words, a request to the court saying essentially, "LE spoke with witness X. We think that conversation may have elicited information that would help our case. We believe it's our right to get the notes or transcript of that conversation, for our use, and we are asking the court to order them to give it to us."

This can be used when LE is playing games with evidence, but it is also used when there is a disagreement over whether information is really relevant to a case. (IOW, at times it can be somewhat of a fishing expedition.) Defense is legally entitled to all of LE's "exculpatory" evidence/testimony (ie, that which LE has discovered and which would show the defendant's innocence), but not to irrelevant.
 
roadrunnermt said:
He wants cell tower data suppressed too to hide where Christina is. So is it safe to say last ping of Christina was 5800 Granite tower?
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As for the motion to have cell tower data suppressed, it wouldn't have anything to do with hiding CM's location, because even if that motion is granted, it wouldn't prevent its use in finding her. It is only a request to prevent the tower info from being used in court as evidence against him, probably because it shows he was lying to LE about his whereabouts that night. He said he went straight home, and he doesn't want the jury to hear that he lied and was probably somewhere with CM.

As for the last ping from CM's phone to any tower, yes it was a ping to a tower located at 5800 Granite Pkwy. (But AFAIK while LE knows, we haven't been told which direction it was from that tower, and I don't think anyone including LE knows the distance it would have been from it other than her phone being within close enough range that it pinged there.) It would be of further help to know where else and when it pinged in the hour before that, but we haven't been told.
 
roadrunnermt said:
JnRyan, in lining up map, route, and pings, there is potentially an extra 30 mins in the timeline. I find this the most significant gap of time where potentially the attack on Christina happened. It took 10 mins to get from garage to Custer but 40 mins to get back to 5800 Granite going off ping data. I do agree EA isn't this smart but lucky. If we take his car damage into consideration, we need look at low lying/bottoms areas where damage might have occurred.
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"It took 10 mins to get from garage to Custer but 40 mins to get back to 5800 Granite going off ping data."

Very true. But we gotta keep in mind a few things in trying to figure out how to use that info:

1 Custer may not - and likely wasn't - the "other end" of that loop, and it may not have even been near to it. He could have gone a long ways further before he decided to double back. All we know is that he got at least that far.
2 Point being, he may not have stopped anywhere at all.
3 Also, regardless of whether there was a stop or not, it would almost certainly have taken much longer to go from the Shops, rather than come back to it. That's because when he left the Shops, the entrance onto the SRT is right there, an easy few blocks to get onto it, and then it's a drive at 75-80 mph straight to Custer and perhaps beyond. In contrast, I'm guessing he did not return via SRT (in outlining his lies about where he was that night, LE didn't mention toll tag info saying he also went the other way on SRT, likely inferring he did not). Even if he took SRT back, the route and exit going back is far more convoluted to get to Shops. And not using SRT - which seems more likely - means that return trip was not only more indirect, but it was made at 40 mph or so, with stops at red lights and multiple turns and all.

That's not to say there wasn't a stop somewhere. But if so, I gotta think he probably had way less time to work with than simply subtracting 10 minutes each way for the drive.
 
zippixx said:
Yeah, I admit it's odd.. maybe she was scared to come forward, or like you said maybe PPD felt it wouldn't really help their case.. or could be considered "hearsay" in a court of law. OR it's complete nonsense & she wanted her 5 seconds of fame. I guess time will tell.. (or maybe not)..

It seems a decent defense attorney would blow up the fact that a blanket was there one minute & gone the next. Prosecution has so much REAL damning evidence to submit, without muddying up the waters around a disappearing blankie.. JMO
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That information would not help find Christina. However, IF she is found AND that blanket is with her, the brother's ex will tie it to EA.
 
Just reading about this case and its terribly sad they haven't found her.

The timeline does indicate some things to us. Lets take a look at this part.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/250595664/Find-Christina-Timeline

0355-CM and EA on camera walking into garage (timestamp on video says 0357)

0358-EA’s car on video leaving garage
10 min
0408- EA drives through main toll gantry at Custer Rd. on 121 northbound
39 min
0447 -CM’s phone pings tower at 5800 Granite Pkwy
(north of Shops at Legacy)
9 min
0456-EA’s phone pings tower at 5800 Granite Pkwy
(north of Shops at Legacy)
36 min
0532-EA’s phone pings tower at 1500 block of E Bethany Dr.
(near EA’s home)
4 hrs 43 min
1015-EA at Kroger gas pump cleaning back and passenger side of car while refueling
36 min
1051-EA arrives at Sprint

All JMO
I dont think he attacked her in the parking garage. There is only 3 minutes from 3:55 to 3:58 and he is in his car leaving garage.

I think he lured her into the car telling her he could get supplies to party. Note the texts right before that where he is trying to acquire party supplies. So with only 3 minutes there and he is leaving I think they both left in his car and she was still ok.

Now in this creeps mind he probably has no intention to do anything but attack her as soon as he can get to a place to do it. She doesnt have a clue just yet what his real intentions are and so he begins his drive.

I think she is still ok at 4:08 because he drove through a toll area of some sort. Usually cameras around and other cars slowing for the toll. He probably knew this area was coming up so I don't think he pulled anything before then.

So lets assume she is still alive and in car driving with him at 4:08 at the toll area.

This is where things get a little dicey. 39 minutes pass until....
04:47 CM’s phone pings tower at 5800 Granite Pkwy
(north of Shops at Legacy)

I think she gets clobbered or choked right here after her phone pinged. I think this is at the point where she realized his intentions and she wanted no part of it and he would not take no for an answer. I think he had grabbed her phone and he turned it off and it pinged as it was being shut off is my guess. I think he hurt her real bad here and knocked her out and maybe did worse at this point. Shortly after 4:47 this all occurred.
I think he must have been pulled over somewhere in his car with her. Maybe a dark area of a parking lot or behind some stores or something.
After he is finished attacking her he puts her in the trunk here is my guess. All of that could happen in 9 minutes. Because notice what happens next.

9 minutes later at 0456 his phone is now pinging so I think he turned his phone off now as he was leaving the same general area. Location is same. He is now driving and heading where? Where else? The monster is driving towards home because he doesn't know what else to do. He has to regroup now. He may also need a shovel or some other materials. Not sure if he ever goes in the house but at some point near his house he turns his phone back on and maybe right back off at 05:32 as he leaves house area for the final dumping ground he has though of. He did not stay near his house long.

In the next 4 hours and 43 minutes he drives to the final dumping ground and dumps the body until he is finally spotted at the gas pumps at 10:15.

That's a lot of time to drive somewhere quite aways away. Since he was getting gas I do think he probably drove the body to some place he had in mind to dispose of it during this 4+ hour window.

What we need to know is someone that knew him well enough to know of what place that monster would think of that was about close to a 1 1/2 hour drive away. Thinking 1.5 hour drive to go there, 1 hour to dig/dump/hide body and then 1.5 hour drive to get back.

Anyway....this is JMO in looking at the timeline and trying to figure out what that monster did. The only thing I am 95% positive about is she was still fine and in his car as they went through the toll area. Basing that on too short of time for him to pull anything before then.

I not as sure but I do think her phone pinging at 0447 is at the point of attack and I think he may have turned her phone off there. As a phone powers down I think it may do a ping. Maybe we can check on that if that is true or not.
 
Well I hunted and hunted and I actually did find one comment in a news article from what seemed to be a cell phone techie that did state your cell phone will send 1 last "ping" as its being powered down. I cant link that one because it was just a comment in the news article. I think it is most likely true since it just makes sense that the phone has to communicate with your cell phone service to start invoking your voice mail application and things like that.

Something interesting but slightly OT is there is malware now that can get on your phone and when you hit the power off button it fools you into thinking your phone is off and yet your phone is still on so your location and other phone info can still be tracked. Crazy spy type stuff.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/police-hackers-phone-tracking/
 
windrower said:
I wish we we knew if more phone pings are recorded--I feel a little foolish thinking I can make any sense of Christina's disappearance by looking at a map and imagining scenarios.
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Thanks for sharing that scenario. Those are good search ideas.

LE has given us three cell pings, cell text info, a gate time, a video, statements, trash collection evidence...etc. They are definitely sharing information and I doubt that they have any more than that in the way of pings.
 
windrower said:
No check of drive times, I'm not from there, and didn't do the math for mileage.

I just tried to put myself in the mind of a young adult who has a dead person in his trunk, and imagined he would want to rid himself of the dead person asap. He chooses to exit after Custer Road because he's noticed some green spaces as he was driving along Sam Rayburn and didn't want to pass them all.

Once on 121, I imagined EA frantically looking for any place he could pull into the woods and get that dead person out of his trunk.

Rowlett Creek area has what looks like a bike or walking path running to the south and a track that runs through the woods and comes out on an easy-west street to the south (sorry, can't remember the name, and when I previously tried to post a reply and looked at my other tab with the map, I was booted and lost my post).

Watters Creek, too, has some tracks and entry areas, as well as what looks like a structure in one wooded area.

I just don't think he took her very far once she was dead. He would have wanted her out of his car NOW.

I am puzzled as to why he would return to that area north of the Shops, but maybe he intended to dump CM's purse, phone, etc., back by her car and couldn't get that close for some reason.

I wish we we knew if more phone pings are recorded--I feel a little foolish thinking I can make any sense of Christina's disappearance by looking at a map and imagining scenarios.

And yet, here I am. Reading and wondering and praying for CM's family since the beginning of this tragedy.
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I'm thinking more like she was in the trunk alive just because of the quick amount of time that passed between them walking into the garage and him driving out. I think it would be plausible to look for areas that he could take her quickly to sexually assault her. Jmo


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Hatfield said:
I not as sure but I do think her phone pinging at 0447 is at the point of attack and I think he may have turned her phone off there. As a phone powers down I think it may do a ping. Maybe we can check on that if that is true or not.
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Thanks for the detailed scenario. You have me thinking that the two pings may well have been Arochi turning the phones back on after returning to the Shoppes area.

Consider that LE investigators are correct in that EA threw CM in to the trunk and hauled out of the garage. He may have had control of her phone and turned them both off on the way to the toll road. This would explain the lack of cell ping info beyond the Granite Rd area and also why he returned to the Shoppes area. IE; to create an alibi by attempting to make it look as though CM never left the area and that he did not leave the area except to go home..ie the last ping.
 
Tr. said:
Thanks for the detailed scenario. You have me thinking that the two pings may well have been Arochi turning the phones back on after returning to the Shoppes area.

Consider that LE investigators are correct in that EA threw CM in to the trunk and hauled out of the garage. He may have had control of her phone and turned them both off on the way to the toll road. This would explain the lack of cell ping info beyond the Granite Rd area and also why he returned to the Shoppes area. IE; to create an alibi by attempting to make it look as though CM never left the area and that he did not leave the area except to go home..ie the last ping.
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I agree. Those 2 pings from both her phone and his phone at 4:47 + 4:56 at the same location 5800 Granite Pkwy had to either be turning the phones back on OR turning them off. I agree it is one or the other.

Otherwise LE would have most likely said phone calls to some person or receiving calls from some person. They just said Pings so that means phones were most likely turned on or off. I am convinced a cell phone will ping the service company both when its turned on and when its turned off.
 
I am sorry since the name was on a public document, it was OK to post.

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The problem with cell phone pings is that, after the fact, they are not that precise.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/what-your-cell-phone-cant-tell-the-police

What will probably be damning to EA is if his phone pings at another cell tower later and Christine's does also within a reasonable amount of time, thus showing they might have been moving together. I don't believe LE has revealed everything they have on the cell phones, though.

BUT the cell phone info AND the forensic evidence from EA's car together are going to be hard to counter.
 
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