TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #5

[Cedars]

From the either school's parking lot, it is possible to view vehicles that pass along Kuykendahl Rd.

Quite possibly. But then, that means the killer has learned to identify, not the victim's vehicle, but the victim's husband's. And anticipates that the husband will leave for work at a very particular time, but the victim won't. How did the killer know S wouldn't be staying home to run the garage sale, along with Liz?

JMO

 

[Curiousobserver]

Quite possibly. But then, that means the killer has learned to identify, not the victim's vehicle, but the victim's husband's. And anticipates that the husband will leave for work at a very particular time, but the victim won't. How did the killer know S wouldn't be staying home to run the garage sale, along with Liz?

JMO

Another puzzling part of this....

The killer was both unfamiliar with the area where Liz lived but very familiar with what to expect from their schedules even though that day was an exception! This means the information was up-to-date, implying some very recent communication between the parties here (Sergio, Liz, and the killer or connector person). The killer coordinated in a way that is less obviously trackable, they knew Sergio hadn't left yet- speculation they had access to the ring camera?

The killer wanted Sergio to live and Liz to die, otherwise they would have shown up hours earlier and killed them in their sleep.

This all points to someone very close to Liz.

 

[arielilane]

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[arielilane]

The garage sale wasn’t advertised on social media. Only a handful of close family members and workers knew about the garage sale. Interview those people again or take another look at them to hear what they have to say or had previously said, because it would seem someone within that group would know something. Would have valuable information. Not pointing a finger at anyone, only saying that someone near possibly has information that they may not even know is an important factor. Someone knows something.

Only a matter of opinion. No factual information.

 

[Sjöberg]

• Early Morning [06:08:15 AM] Liz drives to the local Starbucks to get a coffee.
• Early Morning [06:16:05 AM] Liz arrives home to begin setting up for Garage Sale (VIDEO).
• Early Morning [06:17:00 - 6:47:00 AM] Liz and Sergio start arranging items outside on the driveway.
• Early Morning [06:47:50 AM] The Nissan Frontier arrives and pulls into the neighborhood Princeton Place Drive from Kuykendahl Road and then drives into the Goddard School parking lot.
• Early Morning [06:48:00 AM] The Nissan Frontier leaves the Goddard School parking lot to conceal on a different street.
• Early Morning [06:48:00 AM] Sergio leaves the property to go to work, in a white panel van.
• Early Morning [06:51:40 AM] The Nissan Frontier comes back into view and heads towards the Barraza home.

Just for emphasis - I had totally forgotten that line!

 

[morf13]

I'm 90% sure Sergio drove by the school. Here is the timeline Timeline

As far as the killer driving back by the house, I don't think it was to verify Liz was dead (she wasn't), I think the killer specifically went that way for another reason. Let's say there was a second person in the truck, that person was picked up in the concealed location where the truck went after leaving Goddard school.

• Early Morning [06:48:00 AM] The Nissan Frontier leaves the Goddard School parking lot to conceal on a different street.

Then after killing Liz, the killer dropped the passenger back off at the concealed location then went back by the house on their way down out of the neighborhood. That way the killer and passenger weren't seen leaving the area at the same time.

JMO

The timeline is fascinating for sure if it is accurate on the Whokilledliz website.
It says that Sergio pulled out at 6:48 to head to work, and that at the same time, 6:48, the killer

Quite possibly. But then, that means the killer has learned to identify, not the victim's vehicle, but the victim's husband's. And anticipates that the husband will leave for work at a very particular time, but the victim won't. How did the killer know S wouldn't be staying home to run the garage sale, along with Liz?

JMO

Good question, but again, if we think the killer knows Sergio's planned time to leave, and has a grudge with Liz, it's not crazt

Quite possibly. But then, that means the killer has learned to identify, not the victim's vehicle, but the victim's husband's. And anticipates that the husband will leave for work at a very particular time, but the victim won't. How did the killer know S wouldn't be staying home to run the garage sale, along with Liz?

JMO

Once again, maybe the killer knew them both. He/She seemed to have at least a general idea of what time Sergio was leaving, then again, didn't Sergio leave that same time normally?
I think this is clearly a case of someone who known Liz and/or Sergio.

 

[Curiousobserver]

Just for emphasis - I had totally forgotten that line!

And they didn't have to do that... Were they trying not to be seen or to be seen?

 

[morf13]

Just for emphasis - I had totally forgotten that line!

That could point away from a theory that Sergio knew about this or played some role- if that was the case and he was involved, would the shooter be worried about moving to a different location for better cover? If Sergio was involved, the shooter likely would not care if Sergio saw them but then again, we don't know the reason why the shooter moved. Maybe they started to think (as I DID)that surely the Goddard school has surveillance

 

[Curiousobserver]

That could point away from a theory that Sergio knew about this or played some role- if that was the case and he was involved, would the shooter be worried about moving to a different location for better cover? If Sergio was involved, the shooter likely would not care if Sergio saw them but then again, we don't know the reason why the shooter moved. Maybe they started to think (as I DID)that surely the Goddard school has surveillance

There is a lot that can be inferred from the behaviour of the perp that points to someone very close to Sergio and Liz's family but also a lot that doesn't- like why conceal but let your truck be seen multiple times and then nobody recognizes it?

 

[morf13]

The garage sale wasn’t advertised on social media. Only a handful of close family members and workers knew about the garage sale. Interview those people again or take another look at them to hear what they have to say or had previously said, because it would seem someone within that group would know something. Would have valuable information. Not pointing a finger at anyone, only saying that someone near possibly has information that they may not even know is an important factor. Someone knows something.

Only a matter of opinion. No factual information.

The signs that Sergio & Liz put out, did they have start time listed on them?

 

[morf13]

There is a lot that can be inferred from the behaviour of the perp that points to someone very close to Sergio and Liz's family but also a lot that doesn't- like why conceal but let your truck be seen multiple times and then nobody recognizes it?

And the seeming lack of being familiar with the neighborhood, likely someone not close enough to them that they had been to their house before

 

[BINGOdinoDNA]

Liz would be 34 years old today. I pray her and her family get justice soon!

 

[arielilane]

The signs that Sergio & Liz put out, did they have start time listed on them?

I don't know the answer to your question. I don't recall if that's ever been mentioned. Does anyone else here know?

 

[morf13]

I don't know the answer to your question. I don't recall if that's ever been mentioned. Does anyone else here know?

Even if the times were listed on the signs, it does not seem logical to me that a killer would randomly determine that they were going to kill whatever random person they found manning the table at this sale

 

[arielilane]

That could point away from a theory that Sergio knew about this or played some role- if that was the case and he was involved, would the shooter be worried about moving to a different location for better cover? If Sergio was involved, the shooter likely would not care if Sergio saw them but then again, we don't know the reason why the shooter moved. Maybe they started to think (as I DID)that surely the Goddard school has surveillance

Imo, thinking killer moved for timing purposes, as it seems the killer wanted S out of the way. It was reported that CCTV at the school was not working but of course the killer would not know this. I am also hoping that the camera not working was false information.

 

[iamnotagolem]

Based on the number of times the truck was seen on camera, as well as the 6:48 departure of S from the Barazza home, I think the killer moving to a concealed location was 100% intentional to make sure something wasn’t on camera at that moment.

 

[roche.analisa]

Imo, thinking killer moved for timing purposes, as it seems the killer wanted S out of the way. It was reported that CCTV at the school was not working but of course the killer would not know this. I am also hoping that the camera not working was false information.

Unless the killer caused it to not be working.

 

[MntnHiker]

I'm not convinced that the killer wasn't familiar with the neighborhood. Even though they were seen casing the house/street early that morning, it could just be nerves and/or preparedness. Planning to murder someone is a huge deal. They might have wanted to see or verify what the situation was at the home - did either Liz or Sergio park outside that night (if they normally did/did not), etc. Maybe they were doing some sort of dry run and testing how long it took to get to or from there to some other location. I can think of several reasons they may have wanted to drive by ahead of time while still having been there before. IMO

And driving down the cul-de-sac/likely driving out the berm could have been intentional - either planned all along or decided upon when they heard sirens in the distance or figured cops may have been called already. It's also possible it was accidental because they were so amped up on adrenaline that they made a wrong turn.

 

[morf13]

I'm not convinced that the killer wasn't familiar with the neighborhood. Even though they were seen casing the house/street early that morning, it could just be nerves and/or preparedness. Planning to murder someone is a huge deal. They might have wanted to see or verify what the situation was at the home - did either Liz or Sergio park outside that night (if they normally did/did not), etc. Maybe they were doing some sort of dry run and testing how long it took to get to or from there to some other location. I can think of several reasons they may have wanted to drive by ahead of time while still having been there before. IMO

And driving down the cul-de-sac/likely driving out the berm could have been intentional - either planned all along or decided upon when they heard sirens in the distance or figured cops may have been called already. It's also possible it was accidental because they were so amped up on adrenaline that they made a wrong turn.

To me, that would be the clue that they did not know the area, but who knows, anything is possible in this crazy case

 

[JnRyan]

How did the killer find out about schedules and garage sales? It just occurred to me after sitting in on intel briefs in the Navy and how the intel types pieced together a situation with a hostile country. They didn't get it all handed to them in one fell swoop. Sometimes it came from more than one source and they had to put it together from independent sources.

Could one of Elizabeth's co-workers revealed something or some things about Elizabeth that formed part of the picture? Could one of Sergio's co-workers or customer for that Friday reveal, unknowingly, that Sergio would be in to work earlier than usual that morning to the killer or an accomplice? And Elizabeth would be the last to leave that morning and the killer did not know she was off. So the killer plans the hit while Elizabeth is pulling out of the driveway and they have a disguise to negate the doorbell camera. Then in the 0200 dry run through the neighborhood the killer sees a garage sale sign and realizes with Sergio gone Elizabeth will be there alone? In the driveway.

Maybe the leak wasn't through Elizabeth or even directly from Sergio, but from Sergio's co-workers or company staff? Such a co-worker may not even remember the conversation especially if it was overheard by a third party they didn't know overheard it.