TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #6

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Same! I've heard that it has and also that it hasn't, lol people will say multiple things online. I feel like it hasn't though since I don't think LE has said Sergio is cleared, but I can't see why any sensible insurance agency would give the funds out before an arrest has even been made for an active investigation into their insured being brutally murdered. I also can't remember if LE has stated anyone has been cleared, but I tend to take that with a grain of salt since they can withhold that.

Side question, but does anyone know for legality reasons if LE says someone is cleared but they actually aren't? I think that would be a good tactic to surveil someone if they think the heat is off of them, but idk if that's illegal or just frowned upon to lie to the public like that. I feel like it's illegal but idk if there are loopholes since LE can withhold whatever they want in an active investigation.
My understanding is that LE cleared no one in the Liz Barraza homicide case. ;)

Moreover, my understanding is that LE may mislead or misinform and it's permitted and an effective strategy/tool in an investigation.

Agree, with you LE will claim to have cleared someone, and then determine later that same person is not clear. Or it's possibly a mistake to clear them in the first place. idk.

moo
 
I, for one, still think that we think of S and S's father etc only because they are the only people we know about. I feel like the real POI is someone who we have no real information about atm.

Before BK was caught in Idaho people were going wild with the "it must be K's ex", "the roommate must be involved" etc. Because these were the only people we knew about.

MOO

This is true we have NO idea who the Le have listed as possible POI or Suspects. All we have is public MSM info.
 
If you meet face to face and NEVER call, text, or email each other you can plan/plot to do anything as long as there are no witnesses or anyone who would overhear a conversation. I would assume LE already investigated this angle thoroughly to see if the stories match when they met.
They also could have had burner phones. If you're (not you specifically, not trying to give you advice) ;) going to plan to kill someone or cheat on your spouse then kill them, you wouldn't be using your own phone for all of that. Get a burner and never connect to wifi, maybe cycle through multiple burners, get a new one every week or something.

I know it seems crazy that there isn't digital evidence in this day and age, but "back in my day" we didn't have cell phones. People met and communicated without constant phone contact. Not to date myself any further, but when I was a child it wasn't even uncommon for there not to be a landline in every house. Think back to the generation before mine? I guess they wrote letters and sent carrier pigeons.
 
Was looking for the POI article and found this 2+ minute video.


Who killed Elizabeth Barraza? The Tomball woman was killed outside her Tomball home

Updated: 8:31 PM CDT June 8, 2022



The reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of those responsible is now up to $50,000.00.

If you have a tip, please call the Crime Stoppers of Houston Tip Line - all calls are completely anonymous. Only tips and calls DIRECTLY TO Crime Stoppers are anonymous and eligible for a cash reward.

+1 (713) 222-TIPS
 
Harris County Sheriff's Office Det. Wallace Wyatt has been on the case and said the biggest piece of evidence is the surveillance video. He said the killer appeared to be wearing a disguise when they walked up the driveway and shot Liz.
“Everybody is still a suspect until we found out who this is,” Wyatt said.


Updated: 5:58 AM CST January 24, 2023
 
They also could have had burner phones. If you're (not you specifically, not trying to give you advice) ;) going to plan to kill someone or cheat on your spouse then kill them, you wouldn't be using your own phone for all of that

Learned so much about how LE can track burner phones from following the Gilgo Beach arrests.. fascinating that they were able to utilize burner phone pings on cell towers in conjunction with RHs personal phone.. even though he didn't use his phone, they were always in the same locations...
 
Perhaps the police have known the vehicle all along and keeping what they know on the down low while put together the case needed for arrest and conviction.

They also could have had burner phones. If you're (not you specifically, not trying to give you advice) ;) going to plan to kill someone or cheat on your spouse then kill them, you wouldn't be using your own phone for all of that. Get a burner and never connect to wifi, maybe cycle through multiple burners, get a new one every week or something.

I know it seems crazy that there isn't digital evidence in this day and age, but "back in my day" we didn't have cell phones. People met and communicated without constant phone contact. Not to date myself any further, but when I was a child it wasn't even uncommon for there not to be a landline in every house. Think back to the generation before mine? I guess they wrote letters and sent carrier pigeons.
We had a land line and dial phone
 
In the video, a distraught Sergio can be seen reacting to the news of his wife’s shooting. "Oh my God, dude. This is crazy," Sergio said in footage corroborated by ABC13.

He then asks, "So they just (expletive) shot her and left?"
-.-.-
What exactly would SB have expected? That the killer stays there, waiting for the police to come? It's not easy to ask a meaningful question in this situation, it seems.
Maybe, I had done just like him and not a bit better. Idk.
That’s one of the most convincing statements he made that I thought seemed genuinely shocked and innocent. Along with his asking about Liz’s status, in contradiction of his reported lack of questions, I thought the dashcam video looked /seemed good for him.
On the other hand, I’d want to think my husband would ask more, demand to know more, demand to go.
I really went hmmm when he asked the police (I think) if he could give Liz’s mom a hug. He knows he’s a suspect and acts like one, asking permission like a held suspect when he shouldn’t yet be thinking of himself as a held man who shouldn’t step out of line but as a husband of a tragic victim fighting for her life. I would expect him to hug his mother-in-law and not ask. Am I wrong? Maybe someone can correct me if that’s not what he said or if he wasn’t asking police.
I think he may likely be innocent but that dashcam video did not push me further in that direction than I was already.
 
I, for one, still think that we think of S and S's father etc only because they are the only people we know about. I feel like the real POI is someone who we have no real information about atm.

Before BK was caught in Idaho people were going wild with the "it must be K's ex", "the roommate must be involved" etc. Because these were the only people we knew about.

MOO
As is so often the case. We spend years looking at all the characters and debating dozens of factors about them, then it turns out to be an unknown and we are all like “ WHO?? What??”
The depressing thing is that this practice reveals to us the unlimited number of horribly dangerous people out there.
 
That’s one of the most convincing statements he made that I thought seemed genuinely shocked and innocent. Along with his asking about Liz’s status, in contradiction of his reported lack of questions, I thought the dashcam video looked /seemed good for him.
On the other hand, I’d want to think my husband would ask more, demand to know more, demand to go.
I really went hmmm when he asked the police (I think) if he could give Liz’s mom a hug. He knows he’s a suspect and acts like one, asking permission like a held suspect when he shouldn’t yet be thinking of himself as a held man who shouldn’t step out of line but as a husband of a tragic victim fighting for her life. I would expect him to hug his mother-in-law and not ask. Am I wrong? Maybe someone can correct me if that’s not what he said or if he wasn’t asking police.
I think he may likely be innocent but that dashcam video did not push me further in that direction than I was already.
You're correct. Around the 20 minute mark: Heard the same, he asked LE if he could give Liz's mom a hug, and right before that, as he is sitting in the police cruiser, he also, asked if he could stand? He asked a lot of interesting questions, another one (of many) that jumps out at me - Where was she shot? idk. it's a matter of opinion.
 
You're correct. Around the 20 minute mark: Heard the same, he asked LE if he could give Liz's mom a hug, and right before that, as he is sitting in the police cruiser, he also, asked if he could stand? He asked a lot of interesting questions, another one (of many) that jumps out at me - Where was she shot? idk. it's a matter of opinion.
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"Where" - relating location on the property?
"Where" - relating injuries to L's body?
Did he even know, what he wanted to know atm?
 
He also said that he watched the video when he was driving back wouldn’t he know where she was shot?
If you mean geographic location, yes as that could be seen from their own doorbell camera.

If you mean where on EB's body she was shot, no that was not apparent from their own doorbell camera. The video showing the actual shooting and where the shooter was aiming is from a neighbor's surveillance or doorbell camera.
 
If you mean geographic location, yes as that could be seen from their own doorbell camera.

If you mean where on EB's body she was shot, no that was not apparent from their own doorbell camera. The video showing the actual shooting and where the shooter was aiming is from a neighbor's surveillance or doorbell camera.
See and this is a good point. What did he mean by where was she shot? Is he talking like the location where she was gunned down? Or is he talking about where on her body was she shot? Because I feel like it could be either at this point considering that the alarm company had been calling him. Maybe he wanted to know if the shooter somehow made it into their house, like if she ran and they chased her.
 
If you mean geographic location, yes as that could be seen from their own doorbell camera.

If you mean where on EB's body she was shot, no that was not apparent from their own doorbell camera. The video showing the actual shooting and where the shooter was aiming is from a neighbor's surveillance or doorbell camera.
And truth be told, the location is also not seen from their own doorbell camera. It can be estimated to a degree, sure (interaction starting from left of the cameras view) but not really be sure of (say, did she run or attempt to run into the garage, was she followed etc).
 
And truth be told, the location is also not seen from their own doorbell camera. It can be estimated to a degree, sure (interaction starting from left of the cameras view) but not really be sure of (say, did she run or attempt to run into the garage, was she followed etc).
Right.. and this aspect fuels speculation around the responsible party being familiar with Liz and Sergio - did they just get lucky to avoid being seen on the ring camera or did they know it was there? (Also possible they just suspected there might be one there..)
 
See and this is a good point. What did he mean by where was she shot? Is he talking like the location where she was gunned down? Or is he talking about where on her body was she shot? Because I feel like it could be either at this point considering that the alarm company had been calling him. Maybe he wanted to know if the shooter somehow made it into their house, like if she ran and they chased her.
"Where was she shot?" Would that be one of the first things I would ask? Where body, where was she standing? So either way I find that an odd question.MO
 
"Where was she shot?" Would that be one of the first things I would ask? Where body, where was she standing? So either way I find that an odd question.MO
The way he asked might be odd, but asking LE “Can I stand?” and “Can I give her [his MIL] a hug?” are much odder IMO. It’s like, How much of you keeping me here is because I’m in deep doo-doo?
Anyone might realize as the spouse they’ll be looked at but how many would be careful to pussyfoot about it while wife’s life is in the balance and her shooter is on the loose?
Again, my opinion and not a strong one. It just stood out to me.
 
The way he asked might be odd, but asking LE “Can I stand?” and “Can I give her [his MIL] a hug?” are much odder IMO. It’s like, How much of you keeping me here is because I’m in deep doo-doo?
Anyone might realize as the spouse they’ll be looked at but how many would be careful to pussyfoot about it while wife’s life is in the balance and her shooter is on the loose?
Again, my opinion and not a strong one. It just stood out to me.
I agree
The way he asked might be odd, but asking LE “Can I stand?” and “Can I give her [his MIL] a hug?” are much odder IMO. It’s like, How much of you keeping me here is because I’m in deep doo-doo?
Anyone might realize as the spouse they’ll be looked at but how many would be careful to pussyfoot about it while wife’s life is in the balance and her shooter is on the loose?
Again, my opinion and not a strong one. It just stood out to me.
The way he asked might be odd, but asking LE “Can I stand?” and “Can I give her [his MIL] a hug?” are much odder IMO. It’s like, How much of you keeping me here is because I’m in deep doo-doo?
Anyone might realize as the spouse they’ll be looked at but how many would be careful to pussyfoot about it while wife’s life is in the balance and her shooter is on the loose?
Again, my opinion and not a strong one. It just stood out to me.
The way he asked might be odd, but asking LE “Can I stand?” and “Can I give her [his MIL] a hug?” are much odder IMO. It’s like, How much of you keeping me here is because I’m in deep doo-doo?
Anyone might realize as the spouse they’ll be looked at but how many would be careful to pussyfoot about it while wife’s life is in the balance and her shooter is on the loose?
Again, my opinion and not a strong one. It just stood out to me.
I agree
 
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