TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #16

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Bratislava said:
I think SA clocked in at work, got himself a drink, waited until BD left for work, then returned to the house and kidnapped Hailey. The cell phone pings hint at this scenario, esp. since he next drove out to his mother's "neck of the woods".

I think BD was not involved, though her refusal to see the truth about SA is quite disturbing. JMO.
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ITA Bratislava (whenever I see your user name I get hungry for a German Bratwurst!!! LOL)
 
Did you all see the Jaunuary 27, 2011 typographical error in the affadavits? did I spell that right?
 
bellyup said:
I think that a lot of us would have books, web searches, etc.
The difference is most of us would have one or two searches specifically related to a case that we were following, maybe have some hard copy true crime books, etc. Not specific and graphic detailed information which it seems like LE is indicating they have found.

The other thing that strikes me is the dates that they were printed. A month before Halloween / Sahmain. That isn't a coiencidence IMO. I wonder if something was "planned" for back then and fell through.
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Samhain? I don't recall seeing that mentioned on the affadavit. Wow. Isn't that, like, the OCCULT or something? People that know about that stuff, well, I'm just sayin'..... You know.
 
JenRen said:
I'm just going by when my ex would use it, this was about 10 years ago. There is no way you could get 1/2 lb for just $140. My guess is that's about an ounce worth. MOO!!
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They weren't buying pot, no way.
Based on posting on his page and his friends pages I would bet on ecstacy or meth. Street priced vicodin or oxy wouldn't be enough to get them really high for $140 bucks. Both being on ativan to come down makes me think meth or the like. If we are going with the sex theme a good case could be made for E.
 
AmandaReckonwith said:
I am rarely surprised or shocked. But I thought Billie and Shawn were being persecuted.

I was leaning towards stranger abduction. Sheesh, I hate these cases.

btw, I put some of the Michael Myers site posts on the case album.
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Thank-you so much, AmandaReckonwith.

Your archive albums are absolutely unbelievable. Great work!!!!
 
Bratislava said:
Samhain? I don't recall seeing that mentioned on the affadavit. Wow. Isn't that, like, the OCCULT or something? People that know about that stuff, well, I'm just sayin'..... You know.
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lol, What are you saying, you knew what it meant. :crazy:
 
this part of the affidavit bothers me most:

"During the onset of the investigation ADKINS indicated HAILEY DUNN was a good girl and was very positive about her character. As the investigation continued ADKINS began to report that Hailey DUNN was promiscuous, sexually active, and participated in drug use. ADKINS is the only person to tell investigators about any negative characteristics."
 
Somehow I doubt that Billie and SA's hobby is that of a Websleuther...

We all would have lots of hinky websites, google history, etc. if we got involved in a crime, but could also prove our involvement in this site dating back to whenever we joined. I'd be in worse trouble, as I also write novels, and have tons of notebooks filled with ideas about crimes involving missing kids, murdered husbands, etc...I have faith that LE will sort it out as far as whether or not SA and Billie are simply true crime junkies, or particpants in some sort on virtual game/life, or worse.

To me, what is relevant here is any lying that Billie has done. There is no excuse for that, no matter what, to me, when your child is missing. And yet we see it all the time...people do lie to LE, for stupid reasons, misguided loyalties, etc.

Whatever surfaces, it is clear that Billie is not the good, normal mom she presented herself to be. She moved a freak into her home who had threatened her child in some way. She knew that Hailey did not like him/was scared of him and tried to downplay that. She was putting her sexual needs above being a mom, keeping her daughter safe.
 
wow - missed a whole lot from last night and this am....


sorry to say but what kind of mother is she? having a PARTY while her daughter is missing? sounds like she already knows where she is, thus getting on with her life.

I certainly hope she is fired from her job.
 
I, too, went to bed early, bad day at work and THUD.....wow. I'm speechless. I'm curious (as to a lot of things) but what BD's friend who was on here thinks?? I mean geeze....here are my questions/comments.

1. Why did SA even go to work that day? Can you imagine, he walks in, gets a Dr. Pepper, LOOKS AT HIS SUPERVISOR then leaves. ?????
2. On the ATM withdrawal, they may have found out that they could get a better deal by buying the bigger quantity.
3. Wow.....heck I forgot what questions I even had. I cannot wrap my brain around this. He was asking the killing the people questions on that thread back in what - 2005?? What the heck else has he done? Where is that other missing girl that his missing within 200 hours of there?

I keep thinking of that movie, where the very prominent black man and his friend had a hidden away house/torture chamber somewhere and his wife finally caught onto. She watched the videos of him and the girls. Can't remember who played her or the name of the movie -- but I'm now thinking....how many of those places and those types of people are really out there?????

WOWSERS...my head is still spinning.
 
impatientredhead said:
They weren't buying pot, no way.
Based on posting on his page and his friends pages I would bet on ecstacy or meth. Street priced vicodin or oxy wouldn't be enough to get them really high for $140 bucks. Both being on ativan to come down makes me think meth or the like. If we are going with the sex theme a good case could be made for E.
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I can't believe people pay $140.00 for drugs, what a waste.....
 
kikid said:
this part of the affidavit bothers me most:

"During the onset of the investigation ADKINS indicated HAILEY DUNN was a good girl and was very positive about her character. As the investigation continued ADKINS began to report that Hailey DUNN was promiscuous, sexually active, and participated in drug use. ADKINS is the only person to tell investigators about any negative characteristics."
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Me too. That is when I decided he was guilty.
 
Wise Old Owl said:
Ok - these trap cameras with the missing cards. That area needs to be sealed off - IMO. TES needs to get there ASAP and look there.

Look to BD for those cards. I get a very strange feeling she was the "camerman".
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I understood these cameras to be stationary with a motion detector to trigger recording (no cameraman). I think that SA MIGHT have kept the cards as a souvenir, commiting his acts in front of them intentionally to create this record, but he also might have remembered they were there only after the fact and collected them to destroy the evidence.

It would be interesting to see how many of those cameras have his fingerprints on htem. Presumably the only other prints should be those of the "owners".
 
One of the items on the list of topics BD had printed out was info on Aleister Crowley from wikipedia. So I headed over there, and on the Crowley wikipedia entry I found some pretty disturbing stuff about sex and children, "sex magic", sex and violence, etc. I hope to God that this type of stuff wasn't part of some plan they had...
 
Hey Websleuth Family,

As a father of three daughters, 14, 12, and 8, I am both heartsick and furious over this case and the direction it has turned. I am hurt, once again, to find that "humans" can be so cruel, so devoid of feelings, that they could hurt another person, let alone, a kid. I have faithfully followed the Natalee Holloway, Casey Anthony, Morgan Harrington, Haleigh Cummings, etc., etc., etc. cases, only to find myself confused and upset time and again. As a Christian, I know I should feel some empathy, some sort of understanding for those who commit these crimes, but I don't. I think they should be thrown in general population and fed to the piranhas that prey there. We're not meant to understand everything, every day, but man, how can this be? And worse yet, why? I stood 10' feet away from my oldest daughter at the homecoming football game (she had a "date" and I wouldn't let her out of my sight!). I'm overprotective, so what? How and why are some people on this Earth if they're here to cause pain, harm, and torture?????

Confused/upset.
 
Bratislava said:
Samhain? I don't recall seeing that mentioned on the affadavit. Wow. Isn't that, like, the OCCULT or something? People that know about that stuff, well, I'm just sayin'..... You know.
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I am wiccan, and refer to halloween as samhain..it is a spiritual holiday for me..

eta, I have lit a white candle for Hailey..hoping Le can find her soon

I think sa has something to do w/Hailey missing..

as for Bd? not sure, im on the fence with splinters ...but my hinky meter is going a mile a minute,mo
 
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