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I hope it hasn't been demolished, but it's likely it might have been. There's no old motels left around where I live
Carl, when did this gentleman say he met Kathy again? Was it the summer prior to her murder? If so, Madisonville being so close to Huntsville would mean Kathy may have been familiar with the area.
I wonder if this poor girl was learning disabled, but not to the extent that she would be classified medically as mentally retarded nor identified as such by the people she met?
The victim asked for directions to the Ellis unit at 6:30 pm and stated that she intended to visit some one there.
The Ellis unit is not only located in a rural area 12 miles north of Huntsville, but it has always been maximum security and currently houses death row. Anybody with even general familiarity with prisons either from relatives or pen pals would know that one just does not show up and expect to visit, especially at 6:30 pm.
Then factor in that she was probably told by several people that it was outside of town, but she continued to walk towards it. One of the links also states that she disliked wearing shoes. Though one need not be slow to dislike shoes, the totality could suggest that she was slow and home bound (barefoot mostly).
Thus, she may have dropped out of school early and not been in year books from her stated home town area. I wonder if any retired social workers from the area would remember a family with a learning disabled daughter who had dropped out of school and was prone to run away?
I wonder if this poor girl was learning disabled, but not to the extent that she would be classified medically as mentally retarded nor identified as such by the people she met?
The victim asked for directions to the Ellis unit at 6:30 pm and stated that she intended to visit some one there.
The Ellis unit is not only located in a rural area 12 miles north of Huntsville, but it has always been maximum security and currently houses death row. Anybody with even general familiarity with prisons either from relatives or pen pals would know that one just does not show up and expect to visit, especially at 6:30 pm.
Then factor in that she was probably told by several people that it was outside of town, but she continued to walk towards it. One of the links also states that she disliked wearing shoes. Though one need not be slow to dislike shoes, the totality could suggest that she was slow and home bound (barefoot mostly).
Thus, she may have dropped out of school early and not been in year books from her stated home town area. I wonder if any retired social workers from the area would remember a family with a learning disabled daughter who had dropped out of school and was prone to run away?
Because she repeatedly told people that she was going to the Ellis unit (maximum security prison outside of Huntsville) to visit someone. So yes, it is not unreasonable to expect that somebody would have general knowledge of a place they intended to visit.She was likely a young teen and a likely a runaway from out of the area. Why would you expect her to know the prison hours or anything about it?
No..... but walking towards a prison after 6pm after being informed that it was many miles away and expecting to be allowed to visit person 'p' (not having general information of the place she intended to visit) might indicate that the person is learning disabled.Not knowing what someone has to do to visit a prison doesn't make a person "learning disabled"--
Actually, I would probably ask that question to the person I intended to visit. Assuming she had been in contact with the person (not an unreasonable assumption).Sh. Imagine you are a teen and you want to go visit a person in prison and your family would disapprove of that. You don't ask them questions like "what are the visiting hours?"
I never said it indicated she was homebound. Rather, I said "could suggest". One of the links stated that witnesses related that she did not like wearing shoes. This implies a little more than "these particular shoes don't fit well".As for the shoes-- they were wedges. Have you ever walked really far in wedge shoes? They are not comfortable. Her feet probably hurt. This doesn't indicate anything about someone being "home bound".
No..... but walking towards a prison after 6pm after being informed that it was many miles away and expecting to be allowed to visit person 'p' (not having general information of the place she intended to visit) might indicate that the person is learning disabled.
Cryptic said:One of the links stated that witnesses related that she did not like wearing shoes. This implies a little more than "these particular shoes don't fit well".
The only issue there is that she's also been described as street-wise, and gave off a feeling like she could pull off a con. That doesn't really jibe with her being learning disabled, IMO.
Good point.Keep in mind, though, that was referring to "Kathy." We don't know for sure if she was, in fact, WCJD.
Agreed. Also where has it been said that she did not liking wearing shoes? I've only ever read that she was carrying a pair of shoes, but I've never seen it mentioned that she said she didn't like to wear shoes. Since she arrived at the truck stop by car and was found dumped by the highway I would think its reasonable to assume that she didn't plan to walk the entire distance to the prison, but intended to hitchhike there and if she couldn't find a ride at the Hitching Post, she would walk along the road until she found someone that would pick her up.