Identified! TX - Huntsville, 'Walker County Jane Doe', WhtFem 14-16, 91UFTX, Nov'80 Sherry Ann Jarvis

[Bit of hope]

The key in this article is "some of them were sexually assaulted the same way". This just may be the connector and LE is not necessarily releasing it.

Matter of operating would be sexually assaulted with a blunt object, bite mark(s), strangled and dumped....

 

[Roselvr]

Found an interesting article that links our Jane Doe to three other cases. It sounds like a credible theory, as all the victims were found along I-45 and were killed the same way.

One of the three others was listed as NamUs UP 4625 [POSTMORTEM WARNING]. The article didn't elaborate on the other two victims (one was identified) but I believe the other unidentified woman could be 447UFTX who was found along I-45 by an airport described in the story.

Thanks. Can't believe I haven't seen it before. It's been out almost a year, Feb 27, 17. I wonder who linked them.

 

[Bit of hope]

Found an interesting article that links our Jane Doe to three other cases. It sounds like a credible theory, as all the victims were found along I-45 and were killed the same way.

One of the three others was listed as NamUs UP 4625 [POSTMORTEM WARNING]. The article didn't elaborate on the other two victims (one was identified) but I believe the other unidentified woman could be 447UFTX who was found along I-45 by an airport described in the story.

Thanks for this useful post GW. On a row...the finding places

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/1468?page=circumstances
Found October16, 1980, post mortem interval 3 months (Killed ca. July 1980) , black/African American
15100 I-45North, Houston, Texas beneath barbed wire fence
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/4625
FoundDecember 10, 1980, killed in 1980, black/African American
Found underbridge at I-45 Harris county, Texas
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/4630?page=circumstances
FoundNovember 1, 1980, white female, killed one day prior

WalkerCounty Jane Doe (no info in Namus where she was found?) Found on an embankmentaside Northbound I-45 in Walker County Texas, about 3 1/2 miles north of theHitchin' Post truckstop, and a half mile south of the FM 1696 exit nearHuntsville.

 

[yogasleuther]

I think it can be difficult to track down women on social media because of name changes. I know a lot of women include their former last names in their FB accounts, but some do not. If they have a common name, forget about it.

I have two childhood friends I've been trying to track down for years. One has a common name with thousands of potential matches. I wade through them every once in a while looking for her.

The other has an unusual/uncommon last name and I still can't find her. I'm not sure if she's not on social media or just not using her former last name. Her son has a common last name, so I can't go that route, it's too daunting. I found one other potential relative but he hasn't been on FB for years. Like my college roommate, I'm sure she'll pop up someday.

I recently found a childhood friend that I hadn't seen since the early 80s. The last time I saw her, she was 17 and had just hitchhiked from FL to Maine with a guy. Now, if that doesn't sound like a classic missing teenager scenario waiting to happen, I don't know what else does. I found a Jane Doe in FL that looked just like her back then and thought for sure it could be her. It wasn't, I was finally able to track her down. And just because I hadn't heard from her in all that time, didn't mean she'd met an untimely demise, we had just lost touch. Which, before the internet, happened a lot if someone moved around a lot and you lost their address and phone number, you lost that person. There was no whitepagesdotcom in the 80s.


So, it is possible WCJD's friends ARE looking for her, they just aren't having any luck and haven't put two and two together yet and searched through unidentified remains. It might not have occurred to them yet to do so. Maybe they are waiting for her to pop up one day on social media, which has happened to me twice.

But, keep in mind Jimmy Reymer. His sister had been looking for him in the mid-west for 30+ years, and his JD photo was all over the internet, and it still didn't "click" for her or the investigators helping her. He was in NC the whole time. It took a classmate to finally recognize his picture and connect the dots. But for me, because this is something I'm interested in, of course I keep my two friends in the back of my mind when I go searching through remain, but it's not something I'm actively sifting through with them in mind.

I totally agree with this. There has to be someone in this whole world that at least knows both WCJD and Buckskin. Just not looking in the right state maybe? Also, those cryptic sketches from the 1980s, who could recognize that??? There's no possible way at least ONE person knows these girls and is wondering where they went!!! If only they could make a worldwide to show and show all these faces large on the screen!!

 

[MelmothTheLost]

I hope that WCJD had friends that are looking for her... but it's been 37 years, you'd think they'd have shown up by now.

WCJD would have been around 55 today I think. Maybe one of her old friends or classmates will make a determined attempt to find her when he or she retires within the next decade.

Nostalgia + time on hands = identification?

 

[Alleykins]

WCJD would have been around 55 today I think. Maybe one of her old friends or classmates will make a determined attempt to find her when he or she retires within the next decade.
Nostalgia + time on hands = identification?

It's also possible they're looking for her, just not as a Jane Doe. I never thought of doing that until recently when looking for my long lost friends. I can picture them going through social media, Linkedin, and genealogy sites, thinking they're just out there, only hard to find. It may not have occurred to them yet to be looking for a set of unidentified remains, especially if they moved away first and left under normal circumstances, like my two friends did.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

It's also possible they're looking for her, just not as a Jane Doe. I never thought of doing that until recently when looking for my long lost friends. I can picture them going through social media, Linkedin, and genealogy sites, thinking they're just out there, only hard to find. It may not have occurred to them yet to be looking for a set of unidentified remains, especially if they moved away first and left under normal circumstances, like my two friends did.

I agree - there's the sequence of most likely to less likely to unlikely to - Oh.

It's essentially a process of elimination until UID becomes the most likely remaining possibility.

 

[CarlK90245]

On the Who Was Walker County Jane Doe facebook page, I received a series of comments from a long-term resident of Aransas Pass named Theresa. I spoke with Theresa on the phone this morning, and I will summarize the info she provided in the comments of the thread, and during the telephone conversation.

I offer no opinion of the credibility of this information. , but I did forward this information to Detective Bean of the Walker County Sheriff Department.

Here is the information that I posted on the page:
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Theresa started the comments by saying that a male friend of hers knew the girl. He says her last name is Louis, but he didn’t know her first name. In the subsequent telephone conversation, she said the surname might have been spelled Lewis, and as she recalls, her first name might have been Elaine, or something like that.

The girl's father worked for Theresa's aunt, whose name was Gertrude Kelly. Ms. Kelly owned a concession associated with the Wagner’s Carnival company in Aransas Pass, and passed away some time in the 1980's. Wagner's would run carnivals that operated in the Eastern Texas area surrounding Corpus Christi. There were many drifter types who would travel in and out of the area to work the carnivals and on the shrimp boats. Many of those persons had criminal records.

Mr. Louis/Lewis had an arrest record, she believes for drug related offenses. His job was to set up and take down the carnival rides. He was of medium height & weight, had sandy colored hair and blue eyes, and spoke with a "Louisiana Bayou" or Cajun accent. But he lived in the Rockport area. Theresa said everyone addressed each other by their last names, so she didn’t know his first name

The girl's mother might have been named Sonja (but Theresa wasn't sure). Sonja lived in Rockport and frequented the bars in the area.

Theresa remembers the girl, because she was concerned that the girl was hanging out with the older men who were working the carnival. She asked Mr. Louis about the girl out of concern for her well being, since many of these men were of dubious character. Mr. Louis told Theresa that it was no problem, that she was his daughter.

 

[Alleykins]

Thanks, CarlK. Interesting information, hope it pans out.

 

[sunnynz]

On the Who Was Walker County Jane Doe facebook page, I received a series of comments from a long-term resident of Aransas Pass named Theresa. I spoke with Theresa on the phone this morning, and I will summarize the info she provided in the comments of the thread, and during the telephone conversation.

I offer no opinion of the credibility of this information. , but I did forward this information to Detective Bean of the Walker County Sheriff Department.

Here is the information that I posted on the page:
_____________________

Theresa started the comments by saying that a male friend of hers knew the girl. He says her last name is Louis, but he didn’t know her first name. In the subsequent telephone conversation, she said the surname might have been spelled Lewis, and as she recalls, her first name might have been Elaine, or something like that.

The girl's father worked for Theresa's aunt, whose name was Gertrude Kelly. Ms. Kelly owned a concession associated with the Wagner’s Carnival company in Aransas Pass, and passed away some time in the 1980's. Wagner's would run carnivals that operated in the Eastern Texas area surrounding Corpus Christi. There were many drifter types who would travel in and out of the area to work the carnivals and on the shrimp boats. Many of those persons had criminal records.

Mr. Louis/Lewis had an arrest record, she believes for drug related offenses. His job was to set up and take down the carnival rides. He was of medium height & weight, had sandy colored hair and blue eyes, and spoke with a "Louisiana Bayou" or Cajun accent. But he lived in the Rockport area. Theresa said everyone addressed each other by their last names, so she didn’t know his first name

The girl's mother might have been named Sonja (but Theresa wasn't sure). Sonja lived in Rockport and frequented the bars in the area.

Theresa remembers the girl, because she was concerned that the girl was hanging out with the older men who were working the carnival. She asked Mr. Louis about the girl out of concern for her well being, since many of these men were of dubious character. Mr. Louis told Theresa that it was no problem, that she was his daughter.

Really hope something comes of this! To clarify, was Theresa basing her recognition of wcjd off the post mortem pic or the reconstruction? Or both? I’m interested to know how she came to see and recognise her. Thanks

 

[CarlK90245]

Really hope something comes of this! To clarify, was Theresa basing her recognition of wcjd off the post mortem pic or the reconstruction? Or both? I’m interested to know how she came to see and recognise her. Thanks

I don't think she saw the PM's. I think she was looking at the reconstructions.

 

[honesty]

Very interesting. So she very well may have never been reported missing as some of us suspect due to the nature of crew she was around.


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[MelmothTheLost]

On the Who Was Walker County Jane Doe facebook page, I received a series of comments from a long-term resident of Aransas Pass named Theresa. I spoke with Theresa on the phone this morning, and I will summarize the info she provided in the comments of the thread, and during the telephone conversation.

This seems to me to be the most promising lead I've seen for this case.

I can't remember if anyone had trawled the high school year books for the areas around Aransas Pass and that part of the Gulf Coast, but now there's a possible name it should be an easier job to do if it hasn't been done.

 

[Alleykins]

This seems to me to be the most promising lead I've seen for this case.

I can't remember if anyone had trawled the high school year books for the areas around Aransas Pass and that part of the Gulf Coast, but now there's a possible name it should be an easier job to do if it hasn't been done.

I think CarlK combed through quite a few yearbooks in that area, during that time, iirc.

 

[paul1980]

If she was a circus/carnival girl, would she even be in a yearbook?

 

[Ibiz]

If she was on the road at age 14, then it's unlikely that she ever went to high school.

 

[Finders]

I hope this is the break we have all been looking for! Now I'm going to search late 70's east texas carnival pics if I can find any!

 

[MelmothTheLost]

If she was a circus/carnival girl, would she even be in a yearbook?

Her father was a carnival worker but that doesn't mean she was on the road with him. If she was 16 rather than 14 then she might have struck out on her own after finishing school. I seem to recall reading that back then far fewer teenagers stayed on at school until they were 18. I guess in those days there were far more jobs that didn't require graduation from high school.

 

[Alleykins]

If this information turns out to be on the up and up, hanging out with unsavory characters may explain why she was heading to the prison.

 

[CADwrest]

This seems like a really plausible lead. A lot of the elements of it look like they fit.