GUILTY TX - James, 48 & Michelle Butler 46, driving RV, fnd dec’d, Corpus Christi, 14 Oct 2019 #2 *Arrests*

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BeanieBod said:
When that press conference was held, people on the island knew more that LE. Also, at that point, LE had not talked with witnesses from the island or the RV blogger. Hopefully, Kleberg PD has the assistance of the Texas Rangers in pulling all of this together. JMHO
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Yes, I concur
 
zecats said:
I don't know for sure if the dog is connected to the suspect or to the Tacoma, which appears to be different occupants. Never have I seen any mention from LE or SMS of a dog with AW or AN. Iir. JMO
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It was mentioned in presser that included POI flyer
 
truetexan said:
I haven't seen anything about the dog after that presser....
I feel as if when all this comes out the Tacoma will end up actually being the 1999 Chevrolet Silverado 4x4 belonging to ACW and my thinking is his truck is the possibly the Light Pewter Metallic or the gold. The Pewter is sometimes mistaken for gold and if you compare the two trucks in that age range they could appear so similar it lead lead one to believe they are looking at a Tacoma when actually it's a Silverado. This is what I think IMO. But still leave to question what about the "2 men".... might have to wait until trial before we know....
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I can see the confusion you speak of but the person claiming the Tacoma was positive that it was a Toyota Tacoma.

I still think the suspects had some help. Was it the two men seen at the RV trying to hook up? Hopefully, we will find out more before too terribly long.
 
truetexan said:
One thing I'm curious about is can ACW be charged with unlawful possession of a firearm if in Mexico ? I know he can on US soil.... which could be telling if he can't be charged with having it in Mexico
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I would think it wouldn't matter where he was found. As a Felon prohibited from possessing a firearm I would think it is attached to the person themselves. Flyer stated armed and dangerous so they knew then he was armed. We don't know if he had it when he left Utah or stole the Butler's gun. Not hard as we know to get a gun if you really want one.
 
truetexan said:
I haven't seen anything about the dog after that presser....
I feel as if when all this comes out the Tacoma will end up actually being the 1999 Chevrolet Silverado 4x4 belonging to ACW and my thinking is his truck is the possibly the Light Pewter Metallic or the gold. The Pewter is sometimes mistaken for gold and if you compare the two trucks in that age range they could appear so similar it lead lead one to believe they are looking at a Tacoma when actually it's a Silverado. This is what I think IMO. But still leave to question what about the "2 men".... might have to wait until trial before we know....
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Sorry about grammar. Post from phone a lot. Then get distracted and don't always proofread first
 
truetexan said:
One thing I'm curious about is can ACW be charged with unlawful possession of a firearm if in Mexico ? I know he can on US soil.... which could be telling if he can't be charged with having it in Mexico
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You’re right. Now I’m thoroughly confused. These new charges are making zero sense once again.
 
Bravo said:
I would think it wouldn't matter where he was found. As a Felon prohibited from possessing a firearm I would think it is attached to the person themselves. Flyer stated armed and dangerous so they knew then he was armed. We don't know if he had it when he left Utah or stole the Butler's gun. Not hard as we know to get a gun if you really want one.
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One thing to have stolen the RV and Truck but you have to prove he had possession of the firearm (most likely found prints) ACW having stolen the truck and RV and crossed over into another country does affect how the charges would have to be proven when charging him
 
BeanieBod said:
I can see the confusion you speak of but the person claiming the Tacoma was positive that it was a Toyota Tacoma.

I still think the suspects had some help. Was it the two men seen at the RV trying to hook up? Hopefully, we will find out more before too terribly long.
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I do think they had help...... just not convinced it was a Tacoma but certainly not crossing it off either. I do feel like the victims had a few people stalking them
 
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BeanieBod said:
Why was she transferred to San Patricio? It has such a small county seat of Sinton so I doubt it was for medical care. Anyone have any ideas?
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Google says it’s 1 hour 13 minutes away (58 miles). Maybe make it more difficult for them to communicate? Inmates tend to help inmates., even guards could help pass messages.
 
truetexan said:
One thing to have stolen the RV and Truck but you have to prove he had possession of the firearm (most likely found prints) ACW having stolen the truck and RV and crossed over into another country does affect how the charges would have to be proven when charging him
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Would there be charges if he was in possession of a gun the Butlers owned? I read comments from family that James had a gun. Not sure if a charge would apply to a gun that was taken as part of the truck/RV heist.
 
Gardener1850 said:
OT: Another couple has been missing from Corpus Christi for just over a year: TX - TX - Chad Michael Peters, 38, & Tammy Kay Arthur, 30, Corpus Christi, 9 Nov 2018
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I'm aware of this one also. Have been in contact with family. This couple had moved to the Corpus area in June 2018 to get s fresh start and lived in Corpus until they disappeared last fall after crossing the border over into Mexico near Laredo. Possible sightings in WV. No beach activity on with them.
 
otto said:
In the article about "what locals say" Adam was described as a great guy until his father committed suicide, and Amanda was described as having difficulties coping with the death of her mother. Maybe the two bonded through mutual loss of a parent.

Yesterday's traditional community is today's fragmented digital society. Providing support for personal loss is now a for-profit industry. People who survived WW2 suffered great personal loss, then they picked themselves up and kept going. I understand that the suspects were both traumatized by the loss of a parent, but there's no logical connection between personal trauma and the desire to rob and murder. It seems that they were both too weak to process death, so they chose murder.
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Believe it evolves as the self medication, for PTSD, sets in... once addicted the physical and psychological aspects of addiction kick in...
Easy to throw away children, and break up families for convince, the effect of missing parent(s) and trauma that results due to lack of love, morals, values, and human connections are bad enough..
Mix in drug addiction and murder and there are many criminals that are lacking a human connection...
Look at her young child mixed up in this murder and robbery... How is this going to affect her?
 
zecats said:
Steroid use also can also make one angry and full of rage. To me his face is indicative of the need for anger management. JMO

I have experience with knowing a guy like that. . .a relationship that didn’t last long for me.
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His face could have have trauma from the victims fighting back...
Apparently his arms had bruising too...
We do not have cause of death...
He could be armed with a knife...
Much quieter...
He probably obtained a gun from retired military murder victim too...
Waiting for more information.
 
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