TX - Jonathan Foster, 12, Houston, 24 Dec 2010 - Mona Nelson charged with Murder - #9

[Ms Suzanne]

Why would he murder him though if they had moved away and he no longer had to be where Jonathan was?

imo

She chose little Jonathan over him.Right now I'm just looking into Mona's story to see what I feel happened.I don't know what happened.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

And previously this was stated:

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Evidence detailed
Investigators also found burned carpet at Nelson's apartment, twine that appeared to match the string used to bind Jonathan's hands, and a stun-gun in the glove compartment of Nelson's truck, Miller said.

Arson dogs detected no accelerant on Jonathan's body, he said, adding that Nelson possibly used welding torches at her home. An autopsy found no soot in the boy's lungs, so Miller said Jonathan likely was not alive when he was burned.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7359495.html

Until something official is published/stated by the ME..it's all speculation and opinion, not fact.

"Not likely" always makes me nervous when a ME states that. It really means they don't know.

True. There has been many aricles........some saying he died by being burned with the torch and then some like the one you posted.

This is a chilling part of the link.......

Miller has interviewed hundreds of suspects in 14 years on the homicide squad but said he saw something in Nelson's eyes that he's only seen once before — in the gaze of an accused serial killer.

 

[krazyfingerzz]

I just want to know why Jonathan had to be checked on at 1:45 PM.

I get your point, but it makes sense, that being his step-dad, he would check on Jonathan. He lived in the same area, he "belonged" there. Now, MN didn't belong there, was spotted there, showed up right around 2pm as mom was getting threatening calls. Then, the body is transported by this woman who had no reason to be there, and there is evidence of the unspeakable in her apartment. And a video. It would be strange if DD hadn't been around, but it's not likely a coincidence that MN was. I will say that in the beginning, I wondered, as did most of us. The evidence that followed, though, was too much to ignore. LE has accounted for the whereabouts of the key people, and that includes MN.

 

[lillys]

When using a welding torch you can be very specific on the areas of the burn. She must not have burned the area where the twine survived and I am thankful for that for that will be used as evidence against her.

IMO

Yes, especially if twine happened to be lying around M's home when LE was there.

 

[BOZGAL]

When using a welding torch you can be very specific on the areas of the burn. She must not have burned the area where the twine survived and I am thankful for that for that will be used as evidence against her.

IMO

I was leaning towards that myself even though I am clueless about welding equipment and really am staying away from very graphic issues for the family's sake. I had a very good friend who lost a granddaughter in a fire and it was horrific what happened to her little body.

Hope you have a Happy New Year ocean

jmho

 

[belimom]

Makes sense, I really don't know. You could be right. I would still prefer to believe, atleast, until we actually see or hear the ME's report, that he was dead before burned.

WARNING GRAPHIC

I would think burning flesh is gonna produce smoke.

(I'm back, btw...)

I think so, too. BUT, two things:

1) I think Jonathan would have passed out or gone into shock with the first hit of the torch, so there would not be much of anything in his lungs.

2) I think (yes, this is just my own speculation here) that fire at higher temperatures happens more quickly and less smoke is produced. Think of how smoldering ashes produce alot more smoke than a burning fire (at least I've noticed this when camping, etc). BTW, this is all my unprofessional layman's guess. I could be wrong. MOO

 

[Patty G]

What do you think "weren't involved" means? And why do names need to be mentioned if as police say "she acted alone."

I know what doesn't involved means; however, LE is very carefully with their words.

When the detective stated "she acted alone", for me personally, I felt that was his thoughts and perhaps not the entire teams thoughts.

Eventually the plug was pulled on the press conference IMO!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

She chose little Jonathan over him. Right now I'm just looking into Mona's story to see what I feel happened.I don't know what happened.

Weren't they together when the media interviewed them though? She probably knew he wasnt the one who had murdered Jonathan even though they had had problems.

BBM
As she should have if he hit Jonathan.

imo

 

[joedotnet]

I know what doesn't involved means; however, LE is very carefully with their words.

When the detective stated "she acted alone", for me personally, I felt that was his thoughts and perhaps not the entire teams thoughts.

Eventually the plug was pulled on the press conference IMO!

I agree with you 100 percent.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

(I'm back, btw...)

I think so, too. BUT, two things:

1) I think Jonathan would have passed out or gone into shock with the first hit of the torch, so there would not be much of anything in his lungs.

2) I think (yes, this is just my own speculation here) that fire at higher temperatures happens more quickly and less smoke is produced. Think of how smoldering ashes produce alot more smoke than a burning fire (at least I've noticed this when camping, etc). BTW, this is all my unprofessional layman's guess. I could be wrong. MOO

No, you are right. It does emit smoke but nothing like smoldering wood.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I was leaning towards that myself even though I am clueless about welding equipment and really am staying away from very graphic issues for the family's sake. I had a very good friend who lost a granddaughter in a fire and it was horrific what happened to her little body.

Hope you have a Happy New Year ocean

jmho

I hope you have the best New Year yet. BG!

I know a lot about welding from watching my hubby for years since when he is not working his full time job he is also a self employed welder.

IMO

 

[Patty G]

BTW, best wishes for a Happy New Year to Patti and All!

Happy New Year to you also and everyone else too! :blowkiss:

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Weren't they together when the media interviewed them though? She probably knew he wasnt the one who had murdered Jonathan even though they had had problems.

BBM
As she should have if he hit Jonathan.

imo

Well,Your right.She did stick up for him.

 

[bessie]

When using a welding torch you can be very specific on the areas of the burn. She must not have burned the area where the twine survived and I am thankful for that for that will be used as evidence against her.

IMO

I brought this up last night. I thought the welding torch might allow her to burn isolated parts of the body which would explain the twine being at least partially intact. Yet, knowing very little about the subject, I wasn't sure. I'll take it on your word, though.

 

[impatientredhead]

Are you saying that you have evidence that SE and MN may have been cellmates or something at some point in their lifes?

I am not going as far as cellmates, and I am not implying they were in a romantic relationship, but I am saying Sharon is a key player in this story (and I will post all of her records after I feed hubby). She has a VERY long record of DUIs, drug charges, theft, probation revoked for false identity and lying to police. Alias on the single report I ran early this morning were nine plus with four or five different birthdates.

I will pull the data from the other Mona thread about where Mona was and when she was in jail because yes I do think these guys have crossed paths WAY beyond knowing Mona because she works on the building. Either in jail, mutual jail friends, or a probation officer.

Mona's postings on myspace are all about love and sound borderline stalker. I have no idea who she is talking to or about, just that she seems possessive and prone to jealousy. She is a loon, who knows what she took as wrongdoing against her.

Jonathan was in Sharon's apartment.
Stepdad supposedly was?
Angela called there and Mona answered Sharon's phone.
Mona came back and watched when he was missing.
She was comfortable there.


I am not implying wrong doing on anyone's part except for Mona, but I think this circle is tighter than being glossed over on the surface, at least among a couple of parties, if not all. And I think it might explain how Jonathan came into her crosshairs. I just can't see that she randomly chose this child in a narrow window of time, went into an apartment, answered their phone, and they were strangers to aquaintances.

Sharon is named in the media.
The records are public including the police saying she uses the following alias and birthdates and she has commented to the press. I can't imagine it is against TOS.

I would love to see the criminal records for the other two parties but their names are too common at this point.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Yes, especially is twine happened to be lying around M's home when LE was there.

I bet they found twine in her home just like the twine on his body.

IMO

 

[mikeysmommom]

Happy New Year Everyone! I am Praying 2011 is a much better year for all the worlds children.This year has been horrible for so many innocents may they all have Justice in the new year.

 

[Texas Mist]

"Not likely" always makes me nervous when a ME states that. It really means they don't know.

True. There has been many aricles........some saying he died by being burned with the torch and then some like the one you posted.

This is a chilling part of the link.......

Miller has interviewed hundreds of suspects in 14 years on the homicide squad but said he saw something in Nelson's eyes that he's only seen once before — in the gaze of an accused serial killer.

Yep, she sits there w/ LE & her stone-cold heart & soul-less eyes, but when the TV news station shows up to speak with her "she wiped away tears, she told us her side of the story." ::huuuge eyeroll::

She's just workin' it, IMO...just like a psychopath...I'd really like to know if she expressed any concern for Jonathan or his family in that interview & it just wasn't reported, or if they reported what she actually said...which was her 'self-serving' carp.

It makes me even sicker that she got any attention...the only positive is that she got to dig a deeper hole.

(link for ref. http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7872780 )

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I brought this up last night. I thought the welding torch might allow her to burn isolated parts of the body which would explain the twine being at least partially intact. Yet, knowing very little about the subject, I wasn't sure. I'll take it on your word, though.

The twine could not have come in contact with the flame or it would have quickly burned at 6,000 degrees.

Welders are very use to spot welding very small areas. And with a cutting torch they can burn a very thin line. A lot of welding work is very intricate detailed work.

I bet she had been a welder for sometime.

IMO

 

[epiphany]

When using a welding torch you can be very specific on the areas of the burn. She must not have burned the area where the twine survived and I am thankful for that for that will be used as evidence against her.

IMO

Why would she leave some twine intact?