GUILTY TX - Kari Baker, 31, found dead in her Hewitt home, 7 April 2006

[A_News_Junkie]

"Where in Texas is not part of National?"
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ROFL! I gotta remember that one.

Yes, Tommy Witherspoon is a great reporter and a great man. I haven't met Cindy Culp yet, but I'm sure I will soon.

The "fun" part about pondering if it's Matt or his mommy or their one rabid supporter with a keyboard is when they hit my site and I try to track IP numbers to times with entry page and exit page stats on other comments on other places. I'm too busy to do it much these days, but it's cheap entertainment when I do have time.

HEHE - now that does sound like cheap fun! But, I am thinking that in a few short weeks..........someone won't have a computer anymore!
For me, the short simple sentences with I in them are a red flag! It takes a while or awhile (!) but I AM (cause I'm is too tricky!) sure I have crossed paths with him and his small feeble potsy!

 

[A_News_Junkie]

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2010/01/10/01102010wacbakeradvance.html

 

[nells]

Inquest documents have been posted on the Waco Tribune website, at the link News Junkie gave above... anyone know why Kerrville Daily Times does not have a story about Baker?

 

[JusticeInWaco]

Inquest documents have been posted on the Waco Tribune website, at the link News Junkie gave above... anyone know why Kerrville Daily Times does not have a story about Baker?

They avoid it as much as they can. And when they do write something, it's so poorly written and personally biased. There is also a weekly online journal called hccommunityjournal.com or something like that. Very same thing. I do suppose that they will have to report something in the coming weeks. We'll see.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

There has been one part of this story that I can't quite grasp and I'm hoping someone here can explain it to me.

Matt Baker did not seem to have a modicum of respect for Kari, i.e. his "alleged" hitting on/groping/fondling of other women while married, seeing another woman immediately after Kari's death, etc. By all accounts he did not even attempt to keep up the pretense of being an attentive/considerate husband, imo.

The question I have is, why did he say that he re-dressed Kari the night of her murder/death while waiting for the paramedics to arrive? What purpose did it serve?
I find it hard to believe that he was so terribly concerned about her modesty all of the sudden, even if she had committed suicide. As stated earlier, it seems like CPR would be the only concern at that point, not lack of clothing.

What am I missing?

 

[JusticeInWaco]

I wish the reporters would hold back a little bit and not give the defense more and more reasons to cry for a change of venue. Seems they are so excited about breaking news that they forget there are legal manuevers flying all over the place. Most of the info in the article and inquest has been made known before. And there is much, much more info and evidence now. These reports are over 2 years old. Much has been investigated since then. I just wish they wouldn't keep reminding Baker of all the angles he needs to come up with lies for. Let this be tried in the courtroom. But I guess it's a little late for that. I wonder what all Texas cities newspapers have articles about this case today.

Junkie....."What part of Texas isn't National?" That still cracks me up.

 

[JusticeInWaco]

There has been one part of this story that I can't quite grasp and I'm hoping someone here can explain it to me.

Matt Baker did not seem to have a modicum of respect for Kari, i.e. his "alleged" hitting on/groping/fondling of other women while married, seeing another woman immediately after Kari's death, etc. By all accounts he did not even attempt to keep up the pretense of being an attentive/considerate husband, imo.

The question I have is, why did he say that he re-dressed Kari the night of her murder/death while waiting for the paramedics to arrive? What purpose did it serve?
I find it hard to believe that he was so terribly concerned about her modesty all of the sudden, even if she had committed suicide. As stated earlier, it seems like CPR would be the only concern at that point, not lack of clothing.

What am I missing?

He was trying to come up with some reason to help explain how cold her body was. Pitiful attempt. And a lie that will help hang him.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2010/01/10/01102010wacbakeradvance.html

Nells thanks for the update on the inquest docs having been added overnight! I am off to read them in a bit........... but things are constantly rattling in my head...........

Sure seems to me that the computer searches in March show signs of premeditation as Kassidy died March 22nd and Matt tries to convince us of Kari's every year depression for the seven years since her death. I would love to know if those at the school or her friends ever noticed this level of yearly depression. It would be normal to become depressed somewhat each year, but the red flag, IMHO would be if that depression was such that it interfered with her daily life and work and schedule.

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Here is another thing that really sets my 'hinky meter' flying:
April 8, 2006 — Matt Baker told authorities that when he arrived back home at midnight, the bedroom door was locked. He knocked, and after his wife did not respond, he picked the lock open with a screwdriver, he said.
Go look at your bedroom door -- Most have a small whole on the outside that you can only disengage with a small round poker (I use a meat skewer ) then look at the screwdrivers you have handy around the house........ see what I mean? It would take a VERY SMALL Phillips head screw driver to fit in that tiny whole. Like one used for electronics or eye glasses. Sorry, not buying it. I would love to know if that doorknob had scratches or damage to it.

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Was the infant that was with Matt and Bulls at the jewelry store his??????? Wonder if DNA was done....... (yeah, I asked it!)

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Just SOME of the rattling questions in my mind. I am sure I will have more after I read these new docs.

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"What part of Texas isn't National?"

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Nells thanks for the update on the inquest docs having been added overnight! I am off to read them in a bit........... but things are constantly rattling in my head...........

Sure seems to me that the computer searches in March show signs of premeditation as Kassidy died March 22nd and Matt tries to convince us of Kari's every year depression for the seven years since her death. I would love to know if those at the school or her friends ever noticed this level of yearly depression. It would be normal to become depressed somewhat each year, but the red flag, IMHO would be if that depression was such that it interfered with her daily life and work and schedule.

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Here is another thing that really sets my 'hinky meter' flying:
April 8, 2006 — Matt Baker told authorities that when he arrived back home at midnight, the bedroom door was locked. He knocked, and after his wife did not respond, he picked the lock open with a screwdriver, he said.
Go look at your bedroom door -- Most have a small whole on the outside that you can only disengage with a small round poker (I use a meat skewer ) then look at the screwdrivers you have handy around the house........ see what I mean? It would take a VERY SMALL Phillips head screw driver to fit in that tiny whole. Like one used for electronics or eye glasses. Sorry, not buying it. I would love to know if that doorknob had scratches or damage to it.

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Was the infant that was with Matt and Bulls at the jewelry store his??????? Wonder if DNA was done....... (yeah, I asked it!)

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Just SOME of the rattling questions in my mind. I am sure I will have more after I read these new docs.

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"What part of Texas isn't National?"

OKAY - PAGE 18 (PART 1) Of the newly released doc's --- The screwdriver was not used to open bedroom door but a door attached to the kitchen. Hummmmmm even more odd, IMHO. Lets say it is a garage door leading into kitchen.........why would he not have a key? Why would he not have gone out garage to front door and used his key if this was indeed locked and keyed different that other locks on the house?

Okay..........back to reading!!!

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Now on page 22 it is the bedroom door! Some shoot me please, these cops stink and they really failed Kari. The second cop is saying that John Gates one of the EMS guys told her that Kari appeared to have been deceased for "some time" ---- would this not trigger thoughts in any normal human being????????? Geezzzzzzz.

Okay, I will finish reading before I add anymore. I will even cool down (as reading this is pi$$ing me off for Kari and her family) before I post again.

 

[Boyz_Mum]

I was curious about the infant too.

 

[JusticeInWaco]

Nells thanks for the update on the inquest docs having been added overnight! I am off to read them in a bit........... but things are constantly rattling in my head...........

Sure seems to me that the computer searches in March show signs of premeditation as Kassidy died March 22nd and Matt tries to convince us of Kari's every year depression for the seven years since her death. I would love to know if those at the school or her friends ever noticed this level of yearly depression. It would be normal to become depressed somewhat each year, but the red flag, IMHO would be if that depression was such that it interfered with her daily life and work and schedule.

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Here is another thing that really sets my 'hinky meter' flying:
April 8, 2006 — Matt Baker told authorities that when he arrived back home at midnight, the bedroom door was locked. He knocked, and after his wife did not respond, he picked the lock open with a screwdriver, he said.
Go look at your bedroom door -- Most have a small whole on the outside that you can only disengage with a small round poker (I use a meat skewer ) then look at the screwdrivers you have handy around the house........ see what I mean? It would take a VERY SMALL Phillips head screw driver to fit in that tiny whole. Like one used for electronics or eye glasses. Sorry, not buying it. I would love to know if that doorknob had scratches or damage to it.

~~

Was the infant that was with Matt and Bulls at the jewelry store his??????? Wonder if DNA was done....... (yeah, I asked it!)

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Just SOME of the rattling questions in my mind. I am sure I will have more after I read these new docs.

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"What part of Texas isn't National?"

I believe she might have felt Kassidy's death more around that time of year. Some people are more prone to anniversarys affecting them more than others. But I saw her every day after school. I am surrounded by people that worked with her every day at school and some people from her churches. Her daily life with work and her family WERE NOT affected. I couldn't see it when I saw her each day....including the afternoon of the day she died/was murdered. The day that Matt killed her was an incredibly wonderful, positive, high-fiving day for Kari. More on that later. She was excited and feelling so good that day with the amazing job interview she had and with getting good news that her grandmother was finally declared cancer-free that week and the family (and Kari) were planning a celebration party for her grandma. Suicide makes NO sense in ANY possible way.

Like you read on and found out, they were confusing the garage/kitchen door but it was the bedroom door that he supposedly had to "pick." I had thought all along that he locked the bedroom door before he left so the girls wouldn't wander in there while he was gone and find Mommy dead before he could get back and do his 911-acting routine. I hadn't honed in on the word screwdriver before, though. That is weird. I use an opened safety pin. It's a small hole. I'll ask about that.

No, the infant wasn't/isn't Matt's. That, too, is an interesting story for another day a couple weeks down the road.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

http://www.kxxv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11798835
Nothing new, but we are getting closer to finding out:
"What part of Texas isn't National?"

 

[JusticeInWaco]

Now on page 22 it is the bedroom door! Some shoot me please, these cops stink and they really failed Kari. The second cop is saying that John Gates one of the EMS guys told her that Kari appeared to have been deceased for "some time" ---- would this not trigger thoughts in any normal human being????????? Geezzzzzzz.

Okay, I will finish reading before I add anymore. I will even cool down (as reading this is pi$$ing me off for Kari and her family) before I post again.

Yup. I live in Hewitt. Scary thought. Don't drive 5 miles over the speed limit.....but you can murder your wife and call them around midnight and call it a suicide and the Justice of the Peace won't even come to the scene to verify and call it COD as suicide over the phone. @@

I did read at that Stewert Cooper, HPD detective that came to the scene, seemed very concerned that there was no autopsy ordered and called the Justice of the Peace again and called his police captain again because he couldn't believe it. He KNEW something was up. Besides, it's just STUPID that early30's-healthy young woman + mysterious death did not = autopsy.

There are many failures in this process. But there is even more evidence (circumstantial and concrete) to overcome those failures.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

I believe she might have felt Kassidy's death more around that time of year. Some people are more prone to anniversarys affecting them more than others. But I saw her every day after school. I am surrounded by people that worked with her every day at school and some people from her churches. Her daily life with work and her family WERE NOT affected. I couldn't see it when I saw her each day....including the afternoon of the day she died/was murdered. The day that Matt killed her was an incredibly wonderful, positive, high-fiving day for Kari. More on that later. She was excited and feelling so good that day with the amazing job interview she had and with getting good news that her grandmother was finally declared cancer-free that week and the family (and Kari) were planning a celebration party for her grandma. Suicide makes NO sense in ANY possible way.

Like you read on and found out, they were confusing the garage/kitchen door but it was the bedroom door that he supposedly had to "pick." I had thought all along that he locked the bedroom door before he left so the girls wouldn't wander in there while he was gone and find Mommy dead before he could get back and do his 911-acting routine. I hadn't honed in on the word screwdriver before, though. That is weird. I use an opened safety pin. It's a small hole. I'll ask about that.

No, the infant wasn't/isn't Matt's. That, too, is an interesting story for another day a couple weeks down the road.

Feeling the anniversary is normal but you answered what I wanted to know - normal functioning and the ability to find joy again were happening even with the sad reality of the time of year.
Interesting.............. yes, I had wondered if he locked it before he left to, but that screwdriver had to be as small as the amount of truth in his "stories" and there are many ever changing stories with that man.
I can't wait to hear the baby story! But, I will!
Thanks for the local/personal view. It helps so much!
"What part of Texas isn't National?"

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Yup. I live in Hewitt. Scary thought. Don't drive 5 miles over the speed limit.....but you can murder your wife and call them around midnight and call it a suicide and the Justice of the Peace won't even come to the scene to verify and call it COD as suicide over the phone. @@

I did read at that Stewert Cooper, HPD detective that came to the scene, seemed very concerned that there was no autopsy ordered and called the Justice of the Peace again and called his police captain again because he couldn't believe it. He KNEW something was up. Besides, it's just STUPID that early30's-healthy young woman + mysterious death did not = autopsy.

There are many failures in this process. But there is even more evidence (circumstantial and concrete) to overcome those failures.

Yes, I wish Cooper had had our fire and Linda's fire - this could have been solved that night. I do think he tried, probably within the bounds of his duty and position.
Those failures have nothing to do with Matt's deeds. In many ways, they are separate and distinct from what Matt did that night. They can influence whether justice can be served; as in the lack of preserving more evidence than what was, but I am like you - I THINK THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH to put this filthy man away for life.
That justice of the peace ( I would capitalize the title if I had respect for him, but alas it is all lower case, isn't it!) and his drive thru COD is beyond me.
Someone pour the ice water on me - I am hot about the errors and that her family had to fight to get them to man up.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

I am still reading new documents (had to take a break) but I can tell you that Ranger Matt Cawthon page 77 just testified to what I wondered when I saw the limited pics I was able to see. (Remember, Matt by his own admission moved her off the bed, to dress her and then EMT's) He says that the lividity is fixed. Fixed lividity occurs 6 to 12 hours after death - not one or 45 minutes. I would do anything to hear their experts testify about that. That will be HUGE!

Reference: Lividity:
Lividity is caused by stagnation of blood in the vessels. It lends a purplish color to the tissues. The blood, following the dictates of gravity, seeps into the dependent parts of the body--along the back and buttocks of a victim who is supine after death. Initially, this discoloration can be “shifted” by rolling the body to a different position, but by 6 to 8 hours, it becomes “fixed.” If a body is found face down, but with fixed lividity along the back, then the body was moved at least 6 hours after death, but not earlier or the lividity would have “shifted” to the newly dependent area.
http://www.dplylemd.com/Articles/timelydeath.html

 

[nells]

I have a question about Matt moving Kari off the bed. I thought it was his own decision to do that (because he thought it would be easier to do CPR on the floor). But in the inquest documents somewhere (I don't remember the page #), Matt states that the 911 operator told him to move Kari off the bed... did anyone else notice this discrepancy?

 

[nells]

I found the page number - p. 19 of the first set of inquest documents. Also, I thought it was interesting that Matt said Kari wanted to donate her body to science... That would have made things a lot easier for him, if that had happened. Curious...

 

[A_News_Junkie]

I have a question about Matt moving Kari off the bed. I thought it was his own decision to do that (because he thought it would be easier to do CPR on the floor). But in the inquest documents somewhere (I don't remember the page #), Matt states that the 911 operator told him to move Kari off the bed... did anyone else notice this discrepancy?

Yes - That was one of the things I was going to type up. Honestly, I almost tossed my cookies right on my laptop when I read that he went to sleep that night. How in the name of all that is good in this world can a person go to sleep after murdering or if I go with the benefit of doubt (I have none, but...) after a person has taken their life in the home. How could he have not been up with Kari's parents questioning what he missed, asking their wisdom on how and what to tell the children, crying and sobbing that the mother of his children, was gone and that the childrens lives would be forever changed. HOW? Socialpath/psychopath heartless filthy excuse of a human is the nicest way I can put it.