Found Deceased TX - Kaytlynn Cargill, 14, Bedford, 19 June 2017 #3 *Arrest*

[Elainera]

In my teen years in the 1950s none of my friends even thought about killing anyone. We were all about having fun!

Yea that's how I remember my teen years too.

 

[ms_x_to_the_m]

Right. I'm just wondering if source 1 is also 16 or at least in high school. Although she was 14, Kaytlynn was only in 7th grade. My 16 year old is a junior in high school. Big difference.

My 12 year old (almost 13)is in grade 7. Just way too young to lose her life over $300. What a shame[emoji22]

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[LadyL]

[bbm]

yes your theory does make more sense to me but are we trying to apply our sense of reason to an illogical situation?

It'll be interesting to see just how involved she was, based on the evidence and not just source 1.
I'm not real sure about source 1 sending her because he didn't want to go. That seems odd.
I wonder if it's possible that source 1 is trying to downplay their involvement.
Since they are alive and able to be charged... and Kaytlynn is not.


It just seems the roles of Source 1 and Kaytlynn being reversed would make more logical sense right?
Since it seems Source 1 knew the suspect much better than Kaytlynn did.
Obviously the police know more, I'm just curious how much of source 1's story is backed by evidence.
Of course this will never actually make sense that she was killed... so maybe it doesn't really matter.

 

[LadyL]

roller or ice?
lol

Gosh when I was 14 my only concern was who was going to take me to the skating rink that Friday. (In 1999 lol.)

Tragic. Kids in adult situations even adults can't handle.

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[shadetree44]

I'm sure there might be others, however I do think most are young ones. Having an almost 13 year old this is terrifying. I'm considering changing careers but I'm so glad I'm at school with my kids on a daily basis. Cases like these makes me want to get jobs where my kids are. Just to keep an eye on them. Yes, I'm the stalker momma

Now days you don't have a choice. My eldest son lives in DFW area and they have two younger children. Most might consider them "helicopter parents" but they don't allow unacceptable behavior and control where and when their children go. This is a much crazier world then when we raised our children. I really feel for parents raising children now. Not only is the peer pressure great, but the commercial marketing and movie/television programming is outrageously bad. We have 11 grandchildren and their parents greatly restrict television and movie viewing and most group gatherings are at our place (large enough) in an attempt to control actions and conversational material. School is another story. I don't think you can be careful enough. My oldest mentioned to us the other day that " Mom and dad, the older I get the smarter you guys become". We are definitely "old school".

 

[Emb72]

I am ready to dodge tomatoes, after saying this----:tomato: ---- But I do believe that the heavy influence of bloody video games and R-rated violence and gore and *advertiser censored* on the internet, have a terrible effect upon young kids today.

When I was 14, back in the dinosaur age, my brothers were thrilled by seeing National Geographic for a few glimpses. And when they found Dad's Playboy magazines, they thought they would die out of shock and bliss. And these would not even get a glance by teens today.

These days they see full on sexual acts, some violent, in many different ways---mostly by computer or video.

I agree with you..I am only 45, lol, a very open minded person. I am SHOCKED at what kids and young adults grow up with.

 

[faw720]

I agree with you..I am only 45, lol, a very open minded person. I am SHOCKED at what kids and young adults grow up with.

I'm not sure where, when, or why, our life went so haywire. Thankfully, I have no children. I'm not sure I could survive what grand children or great grand children get involved in these days. I have a dear friend who now has a daughter in her early 50s. When the daughter was in grade school they started teaching sex education. I think she was 10-12 years old. The daughter came home one day all agog telling her mom things they had learned that day. She said, "You & Dad don't do THAT, do you? My friend said, "yes, we do". The daughter said, "YUK!! How gross". My how times have changed!!

 

[Rott Mom]

Her murder has sickened me...What she was "up to" at fourteen-years-old??? I know I'll get negative responses, but where are the parents? She was fourteen-years-old.

 

[Harmony 2]

The "victim friendly" rule extends to the family members of victims and suspects. Sleuthing family members, friends, and others who have not been designated as suspects is not allowed. Don't make random accusations, suggest their involvement, nor bash and attack them.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?65798-Etiquette-amp-Information

 

[singularity]

Could have gone something like this- source 1 says, hey Kaytlynn you want to make a lot of money? J says he needs someone to convert some pot to dabs. Nobody is home at your apartment right? So we can go there and I'll show you how to make it and we can make a quick $300 to split. Let me see your phone and I'll shoot J a text to let him know.

In other words, minimize the victim's role since the crime revolves around drugs.

You're removing her from the equation. You're also placing the blame on the person who came forward. Not only are you taking the phone out of her hand, you're making all of it the idea of her friend even though she is clearly involved every step of the way.


Her being involved doesn't make it any less of a tragedy so I don't understand this line of thinking.




I wish Kaytlynn's story could go viral and the truth be allowed to be presented so other children can actually learn something from this.

This might explain why KC was doing the buy instead of Source 1. Between the fact that Source 1 knew J relatively well and the fact that he was smoking, I believe now that Source 1 probably knew how to make dabs - she was buying and he would help her process it. Is Source 1 older, maybe? I'm curious about her friendship with Source 1 - not in relation to the murder but just in terms of how she became wrapped up in all of this. I have a feeling Source 1 is older, and introduced her to this stuff, possibly.

We have no way of knowing who introduced her to this and unless she had a diary, we may never know.

I realize one thing.....as does anyone here who has either used marijuana or knows people who do....she doesn't appear to be a newbie to this. You don't wake up one day and decide to experiment with marijuana and then immediately start helping a dealer process his supply. Considering her age, that is disturbing.

I need to read all the info again. That mention of her running away at the sight of the friend is telling. She's already learning how it works. The indiscreet discretions.

Hopefully they can retrace her steps in the last year of her life. Maybe a diary, her internet/phone history, and some straight talk with her friends.

I also hope they do not end the investigation at that guy's front door. That 16 year old is not the main dealer. They need to go a few more steps up the ladder. If there are other Kaytlynns in this area doing a similar "job" for them, this little weed operation in Bedford needs to be shut down ASAP.

I'd also like to know if these teens were using other drugs.

Is there really a growing disregard for the value of human life in our youth of today or are we just hearing more news reports of these events that are/were happening everywhere all along?

None of it surprises me. Modern culture is pure garbage. People worship types like the Kardashians and various social media "stars" who literally have no talent at anything(and don't hide this fact), *advertiser censored* has been mainstreamed, people watch "reality" shows and are now dumb enough to believe its actually real, they take selfies and post them on the internet as if anyone actually cares, stay glued to a cellphone 24/7, music has become disposable, drown in fake outrage regarding things that don't really bother them, list goes on and on.

Think its bad now? It's only going to get worse as we are in the infancy stage of the idiocy era. You cant even escape it if you want to. Its everywhere. I don't even know how we got to this point but its here and its not going away.

 

[Elle*Bee]

Her murder has sickened me...What she was "up to" at fourteen-years-old??? I know I'll get negative responses, but where are the parents? She was fourteen-years-old.

Where were her parents? IMHO, like most of us parents, hers were doing the best they could. I have three sons ages 15 to 22. I work part time (9 am to noon) and it's really, really hard to know what kids are up to 24/7. I think I have a good idea what my kids are up to, but I hope I'm never proven wrong.

Fwiw, my oldest is quite open. My youngest is quite impulsive (homeschooled so he's at the house much of the time. Doesn't make him immune to trouble.) My easygoing, never a problem at all, college age son? The one you least expect... I pray to St. Monica for intervention and to God for guidance and protection- daily.

 

[singularity]

Yeah as tempting as it may be to blame her parents, we simply dont know enough to warrant that approach.

She could've been a latchkey kid(do they still call them that?). I was a latch key kid and you can be up to no good without your parents having the slightest clue. I was an adult when I told my mom some of the things I was doing in the late 80s in our apartment(mostly girl related) while her and dad were at work and she was shocked.

Having said that, she was leading a double life of sorts. Softball by day, processing marijuana by night. I'd assume she was showing signs of trouble but to what degree we don't know. Grades on the downward spiral? Ditching school? Her interests change?

 

[LaborDayRN]

MIKAYOYO,
KCs 16yo killer gave her $300 worth of weed. Mind you, he has only lived in the complex for two weeks.

KC kicked it up a notch by forming the weed into dabs. This made the weed more valuable on the street.

She was returning the dabs to her killer, who now owed her $300, when she asked her friend, Source 1, to watch her dog.

KC left her dog with Source 1, so KC could get her money from her killer, for turning the weed into dabs.

Her 16yo killer texted her not to bring the MiniPinch poochie. To come alone. And so she did.

He basically smashed her with a hammer over $300 - $600 worth of weed but KC was only owed $300 that she would then split the profit in half with Source 1.

Simply, KC died over $150.00 because the dealer had plans other than to pay her for the $300. We know where KC ended. This is a horrible and sad development.

"Know what your children are doing." Sgt Holeman, Delphi

I'm just seeing the info about the arrest and my head is spinning! I haven't caught up reading yet but wanted to ask a question. Where was the above info obtained? Was this the account that the killer gave of the situation? Do we know for a fact that KC was involved in drugs or is this an excuse from the killer? TIA!

 

[jjenny]

No, suspect hasn't talked. The account came from another person police call the "source."

 

[Jethro4WS]

I'm just seeing the info about the arrest and my head is spinning! I haven't caught up reading yet but wanted to ask a question. Where was the above info obtained? Was this the account that the killer gave of the situation? Do we know for a fact that KC was involved in drugs or is this an excuse from the killer? TIA!

The information people are working with comes from the Arrest Affidavit.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3985857/PC36785.pdf

 

[2Hope4]

I don't know that crime has gotten worse, or more frequent. I think we hear about it more, one because we're on this site, two social media, the 24hr a day news, etc.

I know of a few kids that went to school with my kids that have been arrested for drugs. I know one was arrested for thief due to his drug use. However, many of the kids that I've heard about being in trouble, none surprised me. Some as early as elementary school you could see the path, see the lack of attention they were getting, see the homelife, etc, and though there were attempts to change their path, only a small few did.


My parents are both deceased now, but I remember them, and my grandparents saying each generation says they can't imagine raising kids in 'today's world'. So much has changed, but not necessarily in a bad way. Change scares some people. Heck, my parents didn't have a bathroom in the house until the year I was...1972! We had ONE television station! On a rainy day, if you moved the antenna outside just right, you could pick up a second station, but the pic wasn't clear. I can remember getting a house phone, because Dad refused to get one until there was no party lines! Now people walk around with handheld computers, and pretned to talk or text to avoid talking to the person walking beside them, or standing in line... nuts!

 

[Jim_M]

At the end of the day, 14 year old Kaytlynn Cargill is gone from this existence. This young child was murdered.

We do not have any toxicology report. We do not have any real details on how she was living her life. Heck, we don't even know what kind of story the suspect is going to present to authorities!

What we do have is a ton of speculation. Along with a lot of opinions on our culture, our drug use, and just an overall 'platform', for pushing certain versions of the way young Kaytlynn has been portrayed.

Maybe it's me, but I believe our role in society is to be part of the village. That role includes wrapping our arms around Kaytlynn's family, and friends, at all steps of this story. And, when all of the factual truths are revealed, then extolling on the dangers inherent in our society.

Perhaps this child was experimenting. Perhaps she got in way over her head. However, I know I cannot judge her activities in any manner. That is up to those among us who feel it is in their realm.

All MHO as always.

 

[Eileen730]

The article below describes the affidavit pretty accurately.
They were going to get the pot from the suspect and make dabs, then give these dabs to the suspect for $300.
But the first time they went to meet the suspect K run away. Then she supposedly told the "source" that she was going to get the money. What money was she going to get, considering it doesn't appear they ever made dubs or got the pot?
The "source's" story doesn't really add up all that well, some steps seem to be missing. Regardless, looks like poor girl got mixed up with the wrong crowd.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/arl...teen-girl-whose-body-found-arlington-landfill

Makes no sense at all!
no one hands over $300.00 worth of pot sorry.
Oh Heres $300.00 worth of pot go make dabs and bring it back and ill pay u when u bring the dabs back..
just don't see it.

Something is off!

Not so sure I believe Source 1....
But I do believe This little girl was into drugs at her young age.

JMO


One story has a forth person.

 

[Tssiemer]

roller or ice?
lol

Roller. I'm not coordinated enough for ice. I tried it last Christmas I ended up crawling around the rink to the door because they wouldn't let me go back lol.


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[rotary_dial]

Makes no sense at all!
no one hands over $300.00 worth of pot sorry.
Oh Heres $300.00 worth of pot go make dabs and bring it back and ill pay u when u bring the dabs back..
just don't see it.

Something is off!

Not so sure I believe Source 1....
But I do believe This little girl was into drugs at her young age.

JMO


One story has a forth person.

"Fronting" someone drugs is not unusual with dealers. $300 is not a big deal to give someone on credit if you trust them. Most would give that much ($300 is an average price for a high quality ounce in a non-legal state) to someone who is selling because they know how easy it to move, it practically sells itself.

Because the goal was supposed processing to concentrates there was little risk for being ripped off.

TLDR: $300 is not very much to trust someone with when dealing with pot, in my experiences.

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