Found Deceased TX - Michael Chambers, 70, Hunt County, 10 March 2017 #3

[abstr]

I have an ex who has DROP and a pension without Social Security....it is complicated. I did have to sign off in the divorce....I agreed to take none of the DROP and I had to sign papers or he could not take me off.

 

[abstr]

In defense.......maybe she is in shock. I know I would be. The thought literally makes me sick. My DH...my second...is the love of my life....I get annoyed with him but he is my end all, be alll.....I can't even imagine....

 

[Jim_M]

In defense.......maybe she is in shock. I know I would be. The thought literally makes me sick. My DH...my second...is the love of my life....I get annoyed with him but he is my end all, be alll.....I can't even imagine....

We may never know how any of this has truly played out. That MC went missing on March 10, 2017, and paperwork was initiated on April 20, 2017, to facilitate having MC declared "deceased", are facts. That everything was signed-off on June 7, 2017, and filed with all appropriate agencies. Facts.

My version of love, and your version of love, do not appear to be in line with the version being witnessed here. All IMHO as always.

 

[abstr]

We may never know how any of this has truly played out. That MC went missing on March 10, 2017, and paperwork was initiated on April 20, 2017, to facilitate having MC declared "deceased", are facts. That everything was signed-off on June 7, 2017, and filed with all appropriate agencies. Facts.

My version of love, and your version of love, do not appear to be in line with the version being witnessed here. All IMHO as always.

Please don't think you know what my version of love is. I just like to think the best. I have had loss that I can't explain.

 

[Jim_M]

Please don't think you know what my version of love is. I just like to think the best. I have had loss that I can't explain.

My sincerest apologies for using a broad stroke in defining your, or my, version of love.

 

[abstr]

My sincerest apologies for using a broad stroke in defining your, or my, version of love.

I truly appreciate that. We all have our own things. I really appreciate your apolgy and I respect your opinion.

 

[*Verdigris]

We may never know how any of this has truly played out. That MC went missing on March 10, 2017, and paperwork was initiated on April 20, 2017, to facilitate having MC declared "deceased", are facts. That everything was signed-off on June 7, 2017, and filed with all appropriate agencies. Facts.

My version of love, and your version of love, do not appear to be in line with the version being witnessed here. All IMHO as always.

I agree with you emotionally --
I know I would be in such a funk, and wouldn't care about anything else, but ...realistically, I would hope that I would have someone, a friend or financial advisor to be looking out for me.
If the problems with that whole pension thing were not present, the DC may not have been filed.. at least for a good long while. But (if I understand it all correctly) because of the situation, and the timing, and his age and the deadlines... then this was a valid concern.
Whether she "needs" the money (now) or not, is not really relevant. This is a retirement benefit for the future as well; one which Papaw worked his arse off for. Being a widow is bad enough, but being a homeless widow down the line would really s*ck.
I am speaking about this one particular subject only (not any other actions she may or may not have done.)
I am younger than BC (not by much), and already have concerns about retirement funds.
So - again, if I understand it all correctly - that pension thing was a real can o' worms. Even any innocent person would have needed to act fast to reconcile it all.
As I said, I would hope to have someone with me in this situation (as I'd be worthless) to force me to file what needed to be filed... and on time.

Beyond this... yes, there are some other odd issues; however, I am addressing this one single issue only, in this post.

 

[Midge Montana]

Folks, I think there has to be two Mustangs. If the will was written years ago, and includes a Mustang, and if BC just rec'd the birthday present Mustang in 2016, well the BC Mustang wouldn't have been around to have been written in the will, right?

The only other way I can see it being the same is if Papaw bought BC's gift prior to the will being written and it took that long for him to restore and give it to her.

I fully admit this is MOO.
Our VI hasn't been here in a long time to answer questions. I hope that she is doing okay. I know she has a ton on her plate.

 

[Thefinest]

I've been following this case since the beginning. One theory I have is that he happened to come home and disrupt a robbery. <modsnip>

 

[Sillybilly]

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[SavetheQueen]

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from:
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Is the Bring Papaw Home group not an approved social media source? The daughters and our VI are admins of it. If it's not, how do we get it approved?

Thank you for the help.


*All statements are of my own opinion unless otherwise specified.*

 

[Yvettea]

JMO but an uneven distribution generally indicates more has already been given to some of the family or more was expected from one child.

 

[Yvettea]

What's abundantly clear is MC had no qualms about leaving his entire estate to BC.

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

What's abundantly clear is MC had no qualms about leaving his entire estate to BC.

Yes. Most Wills I've known about (family members, close friends, family friends etc), while the deceased did leave the bulk of their estate to their spouse, they did still set aside smaller and equal amounts for their surviving adult children, sometimes even surviving grandchildren

 

[jellybean96]

What's abundantly clear is MC had no qualms about leaving his entire estate to BC.

What is abundantly clear to me is that when the will was written (2009, I believe?) he intended to leave his entire estate to BC.

 

[abstr]

I thought that was standard. Been thy way with my family and how my own will and husbands are set up.

 

[jellybean96]

I thought that was standard. Been thy way with my family and how my own will and husbands are set up.

Its the way all the wills I have dealt with (my own, included). If I die everything goes to hubs. If hubs dies first and I then pass, the kids split everything.

 

[Midge Montana]

Its the way all the wills I have dealt with (my own, included). If I die everything goes to hubs. If hubs dies first and I then pass, the kids split everything.

Ours too. Now if Mr. Montana died before me, I would get every single thing. When I died it would be split in various ways amongst the kids, grandkids, etc.
However, I can tell you that I would be passing things out before I died, to the people he wanted to ultimately have them. Obviously not our home, as I would still be living there or if I sold it, keep the money. But his hunting and fishing things, his tools, pretty much anything I wasn't going to make use of would get passed along after his death.
But our investments, savings accounts, etc. would remain mine until I died.

 

[Razz]

Ours too. Now if Mr. Montana died before me, I would get every single thing. When I died it would be split in various ways amongst the kids, grandkids, etc.
However, I can tell you that I would be passing things out before I died, to the people he wanted to ultimately have them. Obviously not our home, as I would still be living there or if I sold it, keep the money. But his hunting and fishing things, his tools, pretty much anything I wasn't going to make use of would get passed along after his death.
But our investments, savings accounts, etc. would remain mine until I died.

I suspect, if allowed, BC will distribute the cars to the family members MC had requested in his will. Sooner rather than later. Or so I hope.

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[Pmerle00]

...
pmerle00~ for whenever you're able to return here for a bit:

I know I originally asked you about the blood spatter, and if you saw it yourself... (thank you for your detailed reply)
and then as an aside, I pondered if it could be determined whether or not the blood was specifically from a nosebleed.
Seemingly, it can be determined as such...
so... next question...
HAS it been determined (or not) if it was nosebleed-blood?
At this point it may not help in locating him, however, head injury, or cut finger, etc., can all be ruled out (for theory-builders out there) if it has been verified a nosebleed.

Meanwhile, you're probably tired of hearing this, but I do think of you and Papaw daily, and pray for his safe return... or now, at least for definitive answers for you. Positive energy and thoughts coming to you from Japan.

I requested that LE look into that, have not heard back. Still. Beyond frustrating.

I will NEVER get tired of hearing that people are thinking, talking, wondering about Papaw. Thank you for your sentiments - they are felt all the way across the world. <3