GUILTY TX - Noted sniper Chris Kyle & Chad Littlefield slain at Erath County gun range

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Tasha Tsiaperas @ttsiaperas · 37m 37 minutes ago
Medical examiner testifies: Chad Littlefield 6' 230lbs. earplugs in both ears. #ChrisKyle had an earplug in the right ear.

The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol · 21m 21 minutes ago
#ChrisKyle #AmericanSniper #EddieRayRouth Chad had no substances in his system. Tattoos: multi-colored Face of Jesus w/ roses on upper R arm

The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol · 21m 21 minutes ago
#ChrisKyle #AmericanSniper #EddieRayRouth and the name "Morgan" on upper L arm

The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol · 21m 21 minutes ago
#ChrisKyle #AmericanSniper #EddieRayRouth prosecution showing graphic photos of gunshot wounds

The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol · 19m 19 minutes ago
#ChrisKyle #AmericanSniper #EddieRayRouth ME using prosecutor to show the angle of Chad's gunshot to the head

The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol · 19m 19 minutes ago
#ChrisKyle #AmericanSniper #EddieRayRouth combined, both men shot 13 times.

Tasha Tsiaperas @ttsiaperas · 23m 23 minutes ago
Medical examiner using prosecutor to show where Littlefield was shot in the head.

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Tasha Tsiaperas @ttsiaperas · 16m 16 minutes ago
Medical examiner showing gunshot wounds on Chad Littlefield in the head, back and chest.

The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol · 13m 13 minutes ago
#ChrisKyle #AmericanSniper #EddieRayRouth earlier in testimony police said Eddie says "Everybody wants to fry my *advertiser censored* right now"

Tasha Tsiaperas @ttsiaperas · 10m 10 minutes ago
ME says the wounds in Littlefield's head and one in the back were most severe. Even extreme medical measures couldn't save him or #ChrisKyle

The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol · 10m 10 minutes ago
#ChrisKyle #AmericanSniper #EddieRayRouth gunshots were lethal. No medical intervention would have saved Chris or Chad

The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol · 6m 6 minutes ago
#ChrisKyle #AmericanSniper #EddieRayRouth another demonstration of the trajectory of bullet to Chad

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Tasha Tsiaperas @ttsiaperas · 10m 10 minutes ago
Trial has concluded for the day. Will resume Friday morning.

The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol · 9m 9 minutes ago
#ChrisKyle #AmericanSniper #EddieRayRouth trial has ended for the day. Will resume in the morning. Welcome to all our new followers!
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Eddie Ray Routh enters court for day 2 of #snipertrial #AmericanSniper #ChrisKyle #abc13

https://vine.co/u/953013157335601152
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Ranger: 'American Sniper' was armed when he was killed

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/ranger-american-sniper-was-armed-when-he-was-killed/ar-AA9hNzW
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After shooting that killed ‘American Sniper,’ suspect spoke of hell, voodoo, the apocalypse

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2015/02/testimony-continues-thursday-in-american-sniper-trial.html/
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‘American Sniper’ trial: Jury shown videos of standoff, chase involving Eddie Ray Routh

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-of-standoff-chase-involving-eddie-ray-routh/
 
Dogface said:
How is it actually determined if a person is insane? I mean, I think anyone who can murder someone is insane! But how is it determined between them doing something crazy and actually being insane?
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I don't know, because as far as I know there's no diagnosis of insane. I think insanity is only used as a legal term.
 
Eddie Ray Routh's Arrest After Police Chase


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‘American Sniper’ trial: Dissecting the PTSD claim of Eddie Ray Routh

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...dissecting-the-ptsd-claim-of-eddie-ray-routh/
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PHOTOS: Without Saying a Word, ‘American Sniper’ Chris Kyle’s Widow, Taya, Honors Husband in Court

"STEPHENVILLE, Texas — In a silent tribute to her late husband, Taya Kyle wore a Rolex Submariner and military dog tags belonging to legendary Navy SEAL sniper Chris Kyle as she testified at Eddie Ray Routh’s murder trial in Erath County on Wednesday.
During her testimony, Kyle was photographed clutching Kyle’s dog tags..."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...yles-widow-taya-kyle-honors-husband-in-court/
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Bradley Cooper on 'American Sniper': Chris Kyle 'didn't really leave me'

http://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...-bradley-cooper-20150212-story.html?track=rss
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Jason Howerton Reports on Day 1 of Chris Kyle Trial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmlakH5r2-M&feature=youtu.be
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Front Row At The “American Sniper” Trial – Day 1

http://www.wildabouttrial.com/front-row-at-the-american-sniper-trial-day-1/
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Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield Were Both Carrying Holstered .45-Cal Handguns When They Were Killed — Safety Still On: Texas Ranger

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...hey-were-killed-safety-still-on-texas-ranger/
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‘American Sniper’ trial: Police describe the high-speed chase to capture Eddie Ray Routh, killer of Chris Kyle

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...capture-eddie-ray-routh-killer-of-chris-kyle/
 
Dogface said:
How is it actually determined if a person is insane? I mean, I think anyone who can murder someone is insane! But how is it determined between them doing something crazy and actually being insane?
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In Texas, as I understand it, the legal definition of insanity is that at the time of the crime, the suspect, does not know that the murder is wrong. It has to be proved that the murderer cannot distinguish the difference between right or wrong at the time they committed the crime.

MOO is that if Routh didn't know he committed a criminal act, why the heck did he flee the scene of the crime? Why was he unwilling to surrender to police? My answer to those questions is that he was trying to buy himself some time to figure out a way to get himself out of trouble. He then decided his best "out" was to plead insanity.
 
bluesneakers said:
If you are ill you can sometimes know the difference between right and wrong and still not be in control of your actions. That could be what happened here - he knew it was wrong but couldn't stop himself.
JMO
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If that was the case then every crime of passion would get the insanity defense.
 
faw720 said:
In Texas, as I understand it, the legal definition of insanity is that at the time of the crime, the suspect, does not know that the murder is wrong. It has to be proved that the murderer cannot distinguish the difference between right or wrong at the time they committed the crime.

MOO is that if Routh didn't know he committed a criminal act, why the heck did he flee the scene of the crime? Why was he unwilling to surrender to police? My answer to those questions is that he was trying to buy himself some time to figure out a way to get himself out of trouble. He then decided his best "out" was to plead insanity.
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Sorry to quote myself but I just wanted to add something that I just now heard on CNN. According to a 'legal expert', the Texas law is strictly interpreted. Not only is a defendant required to know the difference between right & wrong, but they are also considered sane if they know what they did was illegal. I am hoping that this 'expert' knows what he's talking about. Beyond any doubt Routh knew what he did was illegal.
 
Cortne said:
Tasha Tsiaperas ✔ @ttsiaperas

Barnard performed autopsies on both #ChrisKyle & Chad Littlefield on Feb. 3, 2013, day after they were shot dead at gun range #SniperTrial


Tasha Tsiaperas ✔ @ttsiaperas

#ChrisKyle died of multiple gunshot wounds. He was shot six times, testifies medical examiner


Tasha Tsiaperas ✔ @ttsiaperas

#ChrisKyle was 6' 1", 216 pounds. “He was a muscular man, but had six gunshot wounds,” says medical examiner


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Medical examiner: #ChrisKyle tested positive for one medication - an antidepressant - but no illegal drugs or alcohol.


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#ChrisKyle had two tattoos: a cross with an eagle on his left upper arm and a frog skeleton on his right upper back, medical examiner says


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Read our updates: After shooting that killed 'American Sniper,' suspect spoke of hell, voodoo, the apocalypse http://share.d-news.co/IMCLBXU
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TY. So hard to read these final facts.


JMO
 
Texas law uses the M'Naghten Rule and Irresistible Impulse Test.

A person can know what he's doing is wrong yet lack the ability to control his behavior due to mental illness or defect.

IMO, the defense will say he knew it was wrong. However, it was 'him or them' due to his delusional/psychotic thoughts. He thought they were going to kill him and he acted on those delusions.

The M’Naghten rule or standard provides that for an individual to be found Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity (NGRI), he or she must be “laboring under such a defect of reason, from disease of the mind, as not to know the nature and quality of the act he was doing; or if he knew it, that he did not know he was doing what was wrong.” The concept of disease of the mind excludes voluntary intoxication either by alcohol or drugs and strong emotional states.

Irresistible Impulse Test
The Irresistible Impulse Test was first adopted by the Alabama Supreme Court in the 1887 case of Parsons v. State. The Alabama court stated that even though the defendant could tell right from wrong, he was subject to “the duress of such mental disease [that] he had … lost the power to choose between right and wrong” and that “his free agency was at the time destroyed,” and thus, “the alleged crime was so connected with such mental disease, in the relation of cause and effect, as to have been the product of it solely.” In their finding, the court assigned responsibility for the crime to the mental illness despite the defendant’s ability to distinguish right from wrong. The Irresistible Impulse Test gained acceptance in various states as an addition to the M’Naghten Rule, under which right versus wrong was still considered a critical part of any definition of insanity. In some cases, the Irresistible Impulse Test was considered to be a variation on M’Naghten; in others, it was considered to be a separate test. Although the Irresistible Impulse Test was considered to be an important correction on the M’Naghten’s cognitive bias, it still came under criticism of its own. For example, it was criticized for making the definition of insanity too broad, failing to take into account the impossibility of determining which acts were uncontrollable rather than merely uncontrolled, and also making it easier to malinger or fake insanity. The Irresistible Impulse Test was also criticized for being too narrow; like M’Naghten, the test seemed to exclude all but those totally unable to control their actions. Nevertheless, several states currently use this test along with the M’Naghten Rule to determine insanity, and the American Law Institute in its Model Penal Code definition of insanity adopted a modified version of it.




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Right or wrong, if any of the VA doctors wrote a diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia at least once per the DSM criteria, I believe ERR may get an insanity plea. I really do feel he was schizo.

Moo


Rip CK & CL
 
ATasteOfHoney said:
Right or wrong, if any of the VA doctors wrote a diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia at least once per the DSM criteria, I believe ERR may get an insanity plea. I really do feel he was schizo.

Moo


Rip CK & CL
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I do too. And it just makes the whole tragedy that much sadder.
 
Was ERR expecting to be picked up by Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield that morning or just by Chris Kyle?
 
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