TX TX - Prisma Denisse Peralta Reyes, 26, did not pick up her child, Mesquite, 17 Apr 2019 #3

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1 As I start to peruse the timeline, in light of my knowledge of that geography and the conditions that time of day, I think very strongly that the answer to "where was Prisma from 5:15 to 5:45" is fairly easy:

She was driving drunk, and angry (frustrated), and incredibly confused by the streets and hassled by the heavy traffic everywhere (even on side streets, at that hour). Some are one way, they run at odd angles, and it's a sketch part of the city. She MAY have been using a driving GPS (like Google Maps or Waze) or may not, but her path looks like she started on the way home but before she even got on I-30, she bailed on that idea and couldn't figure out how to go back. Maybe she was aware she was too impaired to survive the rush hour traffic -- the highway was likely very clogged already, and it would NOT have been route/time of day she was familiar with. Much less drunk.

* Do we know the content of the call to Juan at 5:25 pm? Do we know where he lived (or where she would have reasonably thought he would be when she called)? Did she even talk to him?
* I would guess that she was trying to figure out where to go, or how to get somewhere safe, to get over her drunkness. It's interesting that she called him first.
* Do we know the content of the call to Ryan at 5:27 pm? Did she even talk to him?

It would have taken her ALL of that 30 minutes to drive drunk, confused, and lost to get to a place she knew (Ryan's apartment building).

2 I also am all-but-certain that she never was trying to get to White Rock Lake, or to her job, or was taking Hwy 78 (intentionally). Instead, she was lost-ish, and took East Grand (78) because it would allow her to go under I-30 and then head back the other way to the apartment building that she sorta knew. There were probably signs that guided some of her turns that took her to I-30 and then past it. She was dealing with one way streets, and the highway in the way, and all the streets at odd angles to the highway, and limited access ramps. And heavy traffic everywhere.

Her path was very circuitous, from all the reports called in. It's possible she was very aware of being drunk and was also trying to get somewhere to stop, out of sight of people who might report her, before she was noticed by LE and popped for a DUI.
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FWIW, I also think her confused route, based on the reports, fits with what little we know. And it further explains the time.

Let's assume she left the bar, just wanted to get home, didn't want to deal with anymore hassles. Driving straight down Haskell to get on the highway, then someone pulls out in front to her, and she loses it. 5:06

She gets out, waves a gun, calls them a few choice names, and zooms off.

In her haste, she goes sailing right by the entrance onto I-30. It's terribly marked, and easy to miss anyhow. In her anger and hurry, she doesn't see it, and she's drunk and lost in a really bad part of town.

From there, she goes up to the light and veers left, staying on Haskell and trying to figure out where to go. At East Grand, she sees a sign that points her to turn left there to go to I-30 (or she just follows the road with most of the traffic and the two turn-left-only lanes), so she gets on E Grand. But after several blocks with no signs, no highway, and in an odd area, she gets to the light at Fitzhugh, and turns right thinking maybe that's the way to I-30. She stays on Fitzhugh until where it ends at Crosstown, thinks this seems like I'm going the wrong direction, so she turns left and it takes her back to East Grand where she turns right. She follows that under I-30 and then turns left onto the service road.

I would guess that somewhere in all of this she called Juan and Ryan. Perhaps this was while she was driving, but that left turn onto the service road has huge parking lots and access to both McDonald's and Jack-in-the-Box, so it's possible she might have pulled in to make those calls. 5:25, 5:27

From there, getting back on the service road, it looks like she's on I-30. Perhaps she got on the highway but it was too challenging, so she gets off again at the very next exit, and could have followed the service road for a ways right next to I-30 until it ends at Haskell. Or turned right off of it before there, of course.

But going from the McDonald's to the apartment that time of day (massive traffic), in that condition (drunk), getting there in only 15 minutes means she must have taken a fairly direct route.
 
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FWIW, I also think her confused route, based on the reports, fits with what little we know. And it further explains the time.

Let's assume she left the bar, just wanted to get home, didn't want to deal with anymore hassles. Driving straight down Haskell to get on the highway, then someone pulls out in front to her, and she loses it. 5:06

She gets out, waves a gun, calls them a few choice names, and zooms off.

In her haste, she goes sailing right by the entrance onto I-30. It's terribly marked, and easy to miss anyhow. In her anger and hurry, she doesn't see it, and she's drunk and lost in a really bad part of town.

From there, she goes up to the light and veers left, staying on Haskell and trying to figure out where to go. At East Grand, she sees a sign that points her to turn left there to go to I-30. But she gets to the light at Fitzhugh, and turns right thinking maybe that's the way to I-30. She goes down Fitzhugh where it ends at Crosstown, thinks this seems like I'm going the wrong direction, so she turns left and it takes her back to East Grand where she turns right. She follows that under I-30 and then turns left onto the service road.

I would guess that somewhere in all of this she called Juan and Ryan. Perhaps this was while she was driving, but that left turn onto the service road has huge parking lots and access to both McDonald's and Jack-in-the-Box, so it's possible she might have pulled in to make those calls. 5:25, 5:27

From there, getting back on the service road, it looks like she's on I-30. Perhaps she got on the highway but it was too challenging, so she gets off again at the very next exit, and could have followed the service road for a ways right next to I-30 until it ends at Haskell. Or turned right off of it before there, of course.

But going from the McDonald's to the apartment that time of day (massive traffic), in that condition (drunk), getting there in only 15 minutes means she must have taken a fairly direct route.
Nice point of view and perspective.. so based on the information given, what time and where do you think she might have turned around? This has all been a bunch of ????
 
Not really. That's why it's so interesting that she had all of these one of scenarios over and over the day she went missing.
I say not really meaning more of... Not all of these things at one time. After she had her son she pretty well got her act together. She did what needed to be done for him. Occasionally she had issues, assuming due to her lifestyle and history, however, she had really turned a corner in the years leading up to her disappearance. Keep in mind, she was a young mom, medically discharged from the army, obtained her paralegal certificate and became a US citizen all on her own and within the last few years before she disappeared.
 
Nice point of view and perspective.. so based on the information given, what time and where do you think she might have turned around? This has all been a bunch of ????

I don't think there was ever a DIRECT turnaround, so to speak, where she's on a road going one way and then reverses and goes the other*. From the info we have, she was fairly close to I-30, but it aligns more with the facts we have to think she never actually was on I-30 going E. Unless there is more info I have missed (which is very possible).

..... * Oops, see my mistake corrected below, which is what you may have been asking about. If she went R on Crosstown not L, then yes she would have had to turn around on that street.

If you look at Google Maps and want to trace the route I think she took to see it visually....

Start at 100 N Haskell (which is N of I-30).
Go SE on Haskell to the intersection of Haskell/Parry, then veer L to stay on Haskell.
[Go E on Haskell to the intersection of Haskell/E Grand, turn L. Go NE on E Grand about 4 blocks to E Grand/Fitzhugh, turn R.] As I look closer at the notes, let's edit this too to say --
She stays on Haskell until Fitzhugh, turns R on Fitzhugh.

Go SE on Fitzhugh to it ends at Crosstown, turn L. [Oops!]
...EDIT - I just noticed your notes say she turned R on Crosstown, not L. Oops, my bad. It's a 4 lane with median so if she turned that way (R), I assume she went until she found a place where she could turn around (which would be in the vicinity of Fair Park). There are any number of possibilities, with the 1st being at Gaisford, and plenty of room to U. That area does NOT often have heavy traffic. I'm guessing it's also possible she actually started to turn R on Crosstown, then turned L, of course..
Go N on Crosstown and stay on it as it becomes Barry.
Go NW on Barry to Barry/E Grand, turn R.
Go NE on E Grand past I-30, and then turn L on the I-30 service road heading west.
(That's where the McDonald's is.)

At that point at McDonald's, she has in theory "turned around" and is heading back the other way, rather than home. But (1) she would have never been on I-30 heading east, and (2) the decision itself, to not head home, could have been made earlier, but most probably after the road rage incident. It's very hard to navigate those streets with all the one ways (and even harder with massive traffic where you can't take your time and have to make quick decisions, and harder yet when very impaired). My guess would be that the wandering around lost block after block (with massive number of cars everywhere), perhaps with the growing realization of her impairment or a fear of LE, was the trigger for her to change destinations.

All of that fits with the reports you've listed. Her being on E Grand as she goes under the highway is the place, because in the early info we had, there was speculation she got off of I-30 to go to White Rock Lake, or to her job -- and taking E Grand is what would have corresponded with those ideas. I doubt she was ever actually on I-30 eastbound in the first place, however, before getting on E Grand -- I think it more likely she was NEAR the I-30 roadway. If necessary to fit certain data, it would have been possible for her to have wound back around and been on I-30 eastbound and then exit at the very first exit, but I find that added route unlikely.
 
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I say not really meaning more of... Not all of these things at one time. After she had her son she pretty well got her act together. She did what needed to be done for him. Occasionally she had issues, assuming due to her lifestyle and history, however, she had really turned a corner in the years leading up to her disappearance. Keep in mind, she was a young mom, medically discharged from the army, obtained her paralegal certificate and became a US citizen all on her own and within the last few years before she disappeared.
If you are able to share, when she had unpredictable behavior before (before her son) how did it resolve? Did she come back to herself on her own or did she need to be found/a professional had to help resolve the situation?

I understand if you can't answer as this is a sensitive topic, but I'm trying to see if there could be some similarities.
 
Reading the details in the police reports posted at that website, and it's more illuminating on the details of her travel, and perhaps on the "why" as well.

It looks like there were at least 2 calls to the police over the road rage where she pulled out a gun (although the description sounds like she pointed it at a vehicle going by, so maybe they were harassing and she felt the need to make them leave her alone?). But those 2 callers kinda tracked where she went, and the police came too --- so maybe part of the equation would be that she was trying to get away from those following her and also hiding from police, not wanting to get arrested, as she went down the back streets behind Fair Park.

And maybe that also is the answer why she soon after decided not to go home -- thinking perhaps that since they knew her license plate, maybe the police would be waiting there to arrest her. She doesn't want to get arrested, even more in front of her son, so she needs to find somewhere to go and hide out for a while.

The fact that she is drunk had to undoubtedly also be a factor in her lack of desire to talk to police, and hide. If she can go somewhere and get the alcohol out of her system, where a DUI is out of the picture, the odds would be a lot better that the consequences (if any) for waving a gun (but not shooting at anyone) would be way less.

Oh, and this might explain why she didn't communicate with the babysitter either -- maybe she thought the police had already been looking for her at her house, and better to be late without explanation, where no one knows where she is and why, than to have to explain to babysitter who tells police and perhaps that results in her getting found by police right away.

Somewhere in all of these, she called (and maybe spoke to) Juan and Ryan. Did either of them answer those 5:25 or 5:27 calls? If so, what was said? (And I've read that Ryan had left the area after the bar, but where did Juan live, and where was he when she called?)
 
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@SteveS


I'm relatively new to this case, but I've created a GMM and plotted out the route you described.

Perfect!! Thanks for the help!

I actually had her turning L on Crosstown (rather than continuing straight a block, and circling around to get back to Crosstown) ... and as I looked closer at the police reports posted online, the direction she went at that intersection of Fitzhugh and Crosstown was provided to the police as a guess she went R ... which means your idea she went straight could be correct since a best guess is in play there.

But, if we figure she was kinda hiding, maybe your map and the extra detour is better! The idea that she would go straight and around that block further east, and maybe even sit there out of sight and let things die down for a few minutes before she gets rolling again, that really fits the narrative.
 
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Perfect!! Thanks for the help!

I actually had her turning L on Crosstown (rather than continuing straight a block, and circling around to get back to Crosstown) ... and as I looked closer at the police reports posted online, the direction she went at that intersection of Fitzhugh and Crosstown was provided to the police as a guess she went R ... which means your idea she went straight could be correct since a best guess is in play there.

But, if we figure she was kinda hiding, maybe your map and the extra detour is better! The idea that she would go straight and around that block further east, and maybe even sit there out of sight and let things die down for a few minutes before she gets rolling again, that really fits the narrative.

My bad, to clarify, Google Maps plots the most ideal driving route based on two points. I can kind of 'manipulate it' by putting down markers in certain locations. For here, without another marker south of that area, Google plots it going straight across and turning left onto Helen to reach Crosstown.

If we are sure (if the 911 calls are correct) that she did turn right - and did not go straight, then the route should be revised. You suggested Fair Park as the place she could have made a U-turn. That's almost a mile down. Would there be any parking lot or other area to make a U-turn closer than that? The timeline spreadsheet has 7198 TX-98 as a placeholder, but I'm not sure where that is.

This is where a local voice really helps, as working on maps in the abstract sometimes takes me down weird routes that are either impossible or would never be done for practical reasons.

Edit: I think you're talking about Fair Park to the east, where you would enter by taking the side road before the bridge?

Edit 2: It actually doesn't look like you can take the side road. There are four parking lots in that area, would any of them be viable to make a quick U-turn to head up on Crosstown?
 
It looks like there were at least 2 calls to the police over the road rage where she pulled out a gun (although the description sounds like she pointed it at a vehicle going by, so maybe they were harassing and she felt the need to make them leave her alone?). But those 2 callers kinda tracked where she went, and the police came too --- so maybe part of the equation would be that she was trying to get away from those following her and also hiding from police, not wanting to get arrested, as she went down the back streets behind Fair Park.
SBM. In one of the police reports it is stated that Prisma swerved towards the other car to which the driver replied by honking. That must have set her off, because she reportedly started yelling at them and when stopped at a red light (nearly hitting the car in front of her) she got out of the car and threatened them with the gun. The driver was so afraid that they ran the red light to get away.
 
I say not really meaning more of... Not all of these things at one time. After she had her son she pretty well got her act together. She did what needed to be done for him. Occasionally she had issues, assuming due to her lifestyle and history, however, she had really turned a corner in the years leading up to her disappearance. Keep in mind, she was a young mom, medically discharged from the army, obtained her paralegal certificate and became a US citizen all on her own and within the last few years before she disappeared.
Prisma had been at her new job at 123 TX Auto for two weeks before she disappeared. Is it known why she left her previous job as a paralegal? Allegedly she had an argument with a coworker that morning. Could that have affected her decision to not return to work after lunch?
 
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Learning that she possibly tried to hide after an altercation at the bar, it seems plausible that she was also trying to hide after the road rage incident. But only an hour later she parked in a spot (opposite the garage entry) where her car was partially blocking a side road and could have easily been reported. Was she so impaired that she didn't care or was it just a quick stop for her? Why was she crying?
 
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IIRC, her photographer friend (Juan) who she spoke with last wasn't in the area and offered that he could send someone to pick her up, but she was unable to tell him her address (couldn't find location on her phone). According to him she sounded confused. It's all in the old posts on this thread.

ETA: Source of the above is Prisma's father on Nancy Grace's podcast.

"She said she was feeling confused, feeling very strange,... He asked her to ping her telephone, and he was getting someone he knows in the area, because he was gone... out of town,... She couldn't even figure how to ping her telephone."

 
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My bad, to clarify, Google Maps plots the most ideal driving route based on two points. I can kind of 'manipulate it' by putting down markers in certain locations. For here, without another marker south of that area, Google plots it going straight across and turning left onto Helen to reach Crosstown.

If we are sure (if the 911 calls are correct) that she did turn right - and did not go straight, then the route should be revised. You suggested Fair Park as the place she could have made a U-turn. That's almost a mile down. Would there be any parking lot or other area to make a U-turn closer than that? The timeline spreadsheet has 7198 TX-98 as a placeholder, but I'm not sure where that is.

This is where a local voice really helps, as working on maps in the abstract sometimes takes me down weird routes that are either impossible or would never be done for practical reasons.

Edit: I think you're talking about Fair Park to the east, where you would enter by taking the side road before the bridge?

Edit 2: It actually doesn't look like you can take the side road. There are four parking lots in that area, would any of them be viable to make a quick U-turn to head up on Crosstown?

About the 911 call, here's the thing about that Fitzhugh/Crosstown situation -- the police report does not tell us for certain which way she went.

The caller that was giving them the info (#115124) apparently saw the road rage and called police (one of several who did so), but then didn't wait for police to arrive. Instead, talking on the phone to police as they went, they tailed PR. The last thing they said was that "they could no longer see" PR, but they "believe she went right on Crosstown." Obviously, since they couldn't see which way she went, she might have instead gone straight or left.

So I'm not questioning if the 911 call was correct, but only that the 911 caller wasn't sure, so we aren't sure either.

As for the place to turn around if she did go R, I am figuring on a trip down the main road (it's called Fitzhugh there) which goes up over a bridge, is 4 lanes with a median, and no place to turn around for quite a ways. The next place with a median cut, to turn around, would have been at Gaisford St, and the intersection of Fitzhugh/Gaisford would be the extreme NE corner of Fair Park. Until you get that far, you can see the inability to turn around on Google Maps by enlarging the image, and also by using the Street View to go S from the Fitzhugh/Crosstown intersection.

I don't think turning around would have been a challenge, once she got to a place with a median cut. Other than when the fair is going, it seems to me the traffic in those border streets on the back side of FP is always sparse.

Once I looked at the geography closer on the map, I would guess she'd have been more likely to go straight instead of R, like your map shows. There's a church ahead, and a quiet street behind it, allowing the opportunity to just stop if need be.
 
Learning that she possibly tried to hide after an altercation at the bar, it seems plausible that she was also trying to hide after the road rage incident. But only an hour later she parked in a spot (opposite the garage entry) where her car was partially blocking a side road and could have easily been reported. Was she so impaired that she didn't care or was it just a quick stop for her? Why was she crying?

My working guess has been that she felt if she could get behind the gate and into the apartment building, then LE wouldn't know where she was, inside there. Not a resident. Lots of apartments. Then that location would serve as a place where she could spend time to sober up before she was found. Seeing her vehicle wouldn't tell anyone exactly where she was. Her top priority was to get out of the car, and someplace out of sight. So she did.

Or/and, being intoxicated, she could have done illogical things too, thus the wild parking. And the failure to realize that parking wildly isn't a good way to be invisible.

IMO the crying was part of the same intoxicated - raging - emotional - scared soup of emotions she was in the middle of. There are lots of reasons (both valid, and illogical) that could have triggered it.
 
My working guess has been that she felt if she could get behind the gate and into the apartment building, then LE wouldn't know where she was, inside there. Not a resident. Lots of apartments. Then that location would serve as a place where she could spend time to sober up before she was found. Seeing her vehicle wouldn't tell anyone exactly where she was. Her top priority was to get out of the car, and someplace out of sight. So she did.

Or/and, being intoxicated, she could have done illogical things too, thus the wild parking. And the failure to realize that parking wildly isn't a good way to be invisible.

IMO the crying was part of the same intoxicated - raging - emotional - scared soup of emotions she was in the middle of. There are lots of reasons (both valid, and illogical) that could have triggered it.
I think a lot of us previously assumed (despite being aware of the road rage incident) that her actions and emotions that day were largely driven by her relationship issues with R (jealousy or a breakup), because of the location and the many calls to him she made. Now it seems possible that she was trying to reach him to help her evade police.
 
I think a lot of us previously assumed (despite being aware of the road rage incident) that her actions and emotions that day were largely driven by her relationship issues with R (jealousy or a breakup), because of the location and the many calls to him she made. Now it seems possible that she was trying to reach him to help her evade police.

That's just my theory. It fits with the context of what had happened in the prior hour. It also fits with her making calls to reach out for help -- or maybe looking for a place to lay low in the area? (We know where Ryan lived, one of the ones she was calling for help. We don't know where Juan lived, who she also called for help, and who was out of town but tried to send someone to her but lacked a location. But maybe he lived in the area too, as an explanation for why she called him.)

Going back through earlier posts on this case, catching up, I see some interesting facts that to me could be helpful ....

1 Everyone she talked to says "something" was wrong. No one has said what that was, afaik. I am guessing that some of them probably know what it was, and just haven't said. Or do they not know?
... That would fit with my idea that she was scared of the police. But it would fit other ideas too.

2 When she's in the garage and the lady offers help, she just wants to be left alone.
... That would fit with my idea that she was scared of the police, and just hiding. But it would fit other ideas too.

3 One thing that I don't know what to think -- post 342 by Winter (VI) says this [punctuation edited for clarity, emphasis added]:
"It was the top floor of parking garage, there was a silver car near her with the trunk open according to the witness. She also stated Prisma had been there a couple days prior with a man. Prisma told the lady to leave her alone. Also according to witness, witness did not realize until a couple days after when her dad and private detective was showing her picture, and questioning people that it may have had to do with her disappearance.
... I had heard about the lady and the car, but not the same lady on a diff day. I am wondering if the silver car was also there a couple days prior. And what was that, where she had been there before so that the lady knew her? Visit w (ex-)bf?

I think this related post is also helpful to keep in mind - post 350 - winter says "The witness said a Lexus or something similar to that..." which advances it beyond just a random silver car.

4 This was in a Fox4 news video about her route and sounds like she went farther towards the lake, and I'm wondering how precisely this is meant to be taken: "Investigators believe Reyes drove to I-30 and then turned back around and went to the Olympus at Ross apartments. "She heads out towards White Rock Lake. We have her turning around near White Rock Lake and coming back this way,” Barrett said. “And then she ends up at the apartment complex over here.”
... It doesn't have a precise address for the turn around. I-30 at E Grand is probably the closest place on I-30, but you'd have to go farther to say she "heads out toward" the lake. Yet she sure couldn't go far towards the lake, if she's going to get back to the apartment building in only 30 minutes, in rush hour congestion. Maybe there is more in later posts.

5 Thread 2 Post 868 "The ex lives in that building. She also knows someone else in that building." with the source of info added in post 876.
... There has been quite a bit of focus on the ex living there, and since she was with him that day and had called him a lot in that hour after she left E Bar, rightly so. But I wonder if this other person has been looked at.

6 Post 901 "Prisma’s Dad has stated for the record (ask Winter63 if you don’t believe me) that a guy gave her that Jeep as a gift."
... Another person I sure would want to know more about.

7 Also this in Post 901 is interesting "Her ex boyfriend also went on an interview (ask Winter63 if you don’t believe me) that she accidentally called him. She thought she was calling the guy at the apartment but dialed the wrong #. That’s who she was talking to on the phone in the surveillance footage. She was asking what his apartment number was and to let her up. But it was the wrong number. That’s why she looks down at her phone and laughed once he said it was him and not the guy living at the apartment complex. The friend also said that Prisma did drink a lot ... she was trying to call the person who lived there and was asking what apartment he was in and to let her up. She was yelling. But she called the wrong #. That was the guy out of town."
....Not sure who is meant here, or which call this would be, but it's informative info to me.

8 Trying to keep the calls and men in her life straight, this is helpful
"I watched the recent Gray Hughes' videos about Prisma. In one, Gray shows Prisma's call log for the day. She called and spoke to three people in the last 12 minutes. There was a two-minute call at 5:49 (caught on camera) to a person who wasn't interviewed by Gray. The person from the four-minute call at 5:57 was on Gray's show and he was the one who claimed that Prisma called him by mistake. The last was a three-minute call at 6pm to another friend who was out of state and who stated that Prisma sounded confused to the point that she did not know her location."

and this -- "Here’s my understanding from previous VI info... She called 4 guys between the elevator video and 6:01. Not in any order... One is lunch ex/currentbf one of them is the guy (C) on Gray’s video, one is a previous ex, and one is the guy who was out of town."

and this
Correct me if I am wrong--
1. She met an ex for lunch and he was the one who lived at the apartment complex and allegedly had an alibi and was out of town later in the day;
2. She also called another ex which is a different person.
3. She called a male friend by accident when she meant to call the ex in #1. Twice I think. He told her he wasn't who she thought. He claimed to know her, said the ex in #1 was abusive but never referred to he himself as an ex or ever having been a bf. He told her she had reached him and not the person she was trying to reach (the ex in #1).
4. There is another guy who "bought" her vehicle for her and we are unsure if he is any of the above.

and this "Knowing now that she called an attorney allegedly in Colorado was it, had me guessing she met the attorney through that job...? Or something like that..."

and this
AG-apartment guy (also lunch guy)
FG-friend that was out of town I believe Florida "Flora" number but lives in Texas
CG-guy from Gray Hughes video "Chris" non-violent ex
COG-guy who lives in Colorado
EVG - There was also the guy she was on the phone with on the “elevator video”. He is a former boyfriend.
 

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