TX TX - Prisma Denisse Peralta Reyes, 26, did not pick up her child, Mesquite, 17 Apr 2019 #3

[indicolite22]

7 Also this in Post 901 is interesting "Her ex boyfriend also went on an interview (ask Winter63 if you don’t believe me) that she accidentally called him. She thought she was calling the guy at the apartment but dialed the wrong #. That’s who she was talking to on the phone in the surveillance footage. She was asking what his apartment number was and to let her up. But it was the wrong number. That’s why she looks down at her phone and laughed once he said it was him and not the guy living at the apartment complex. The friend also said that Prisma did drink a lot ... she was trying to call the person who lived there and was asking what apartment he was in and to let her up. She was yelling. But she called the wrong #. That was the guy out of town."
....Not sure who is meant here, or which call this would be, but it's informative info to me.

and this
AG-apartment guy (also lunch guy)
FG-friend that was out of town I believe Florida "Flora" number but lives in Texas
CG-guy from Gray Hughes video "Chris" non-violent ex
COG-guy who lives in Colorado
EVG - There was also the guy she was on the phone with on the “elevator video”. He is a former boyfriend.

SBM, BBM.

AG is R and FG is J. She spoke with COG before arriving to lunch.

We were not told about the content of the call with EVG.

The call with the guy she mistakenly dialed (CG) was not caught on the elevator surveillance footage, but happened around 5 minutes later. CG spoke to Gray Hughes about it.

 

[indicolite22]

6 Post 901 "Prisma’s Dad has stated for the record (ask Winter63 if you don’t believe me) that a guy gave her that Jeep as a gift."
... Another person I sure would want to know more about.

4. There is another guy who "bought" her vehicle for her and we are unsure if he is any of the above.

SBM. IIRC, the guy who bought her the Jeep is not on the acronym list and he was not identified as one of her phone contacts that day.

 

[SteveS]

SBM. IIRC, the guy who bought her the Jeep is not on the acronym list and he was not identified as one of her phone contacts that day.

Thank you. And having now completed the reading of all the WS posts, @indicolite22 I am impressed and thankful for your ability and willingness to keep the facts (as we know them) straight for us.

I now have some observations, questions, and opinions to add (addressed to you or anyone who has interest or knowledge, of course)...

1 Why did she take the path she did, turning around? Why did she end up at Olympus? I'm convinced it was all about finding a place to hide, and quickly. Her circuitous path and eventual destination came after the LE-documented road rage incident. At that point, police reports seem to indicate two cars (not police) may have been tailing her as she drove away, and all indications say she would have been angry, drunk, confused, and probably lost. It's unlikely she had completely clear thinking to reason it all out, but it all adds up to her looking for someplace close to land, where no one could find her until she sobered up, before LE found her or noticed her driving drunk.

So, I do think she didn't go to R's building to meet him, not primarily, and what she wanted was the place (of refuge, so to speak), not a meeting with him. As she drove, it's always possible she saw a police car or one of the cars at the road rage, which made her even more desperate to get out of her Jeep and hide.

2 LE has her phone's ping locations as she went, which offer them some general guidelines to the path she drove. I've yet to see a map of them with precise ping points - were they released? or kept private?
....2a I do see LE saying she went "towards White Rock Lake" (and similar words), but I still question if she went out of her way at all towards the lake, or if the pings might show her end up heading that way perhaps accidentally (drunk, lost, avoiding police, etc), or even barely at all. We did have an early Fox 4 video with a animated map showing her path as they understood it (with that description included), and it showed her turning back westbound at the exit towards White Rock Lake, but never really going towards it.
....2b It's noteworthy that there's no time, in the mass of rush hour traffic, for her to have made any stop along the way from her "road rage" to Olympus, using the route she took.
... 2c Although, plotting this drive precisely hardly matters to the question of what has happened to her.

3 There were 2 calls made while on that drive, at 5:25 and 5:27. One was to R. It may have been around the time she started heading back towards Olympus, but I would wager she was calling LOOKING for someone who could get her to some place of refuge. (There's no indication either call was answered. I think she went there assuming she could make it work - and then when she arrived, she is calling, calling, calling to get R to tell her the apt # and how to get in).

4 While R would make a great suspect, I can't fit him. I don't see any reason for him to even know she went there. I trust the police have superb ability to check an alibi and see if it holds up, so I accept R was (a) elsewhere until 4 am, and (b) unaware that PR was at his building. And just as important to me, other than the fact he seems to generally be a jerk, there's no real motive for him to want to kill her.

As for the idea he could have done something after 4 am, that doesn't work either. Because PR vanished at 6 pm-ish. And not knowing the apartment number nor having a key, I don't see an angry, emotional, confused drunk being able to get to get into his apartment.
.... Although a magic scenario can be invented. Magically, she does figure out his apt #. She gets a key. She gets in. She crashes on his bed. Phone dies. She sleeps. And when he gets home, he's so pissed he ...? No wait - I'm a man, and I come home to find a babe in my bed, it doesn't make me mad.

5 I did see a post that she knew AT LEAST one other person who lived in that building, derived from the friends list on her FB page. Isn't it possible she could have bumped into this person that evening? Have they been looked at closely? "She saw someone she knew and went with them" feels like something a person would be more likely to do, than going with someone she did not know.

6 I have seen stories that the Jeep was not in her name at all, and was owned by an older man. I have alternately seen it said she had a "co-signer" (which would mean the Jeep was in her name after all, with a loan she was paying). I have alternately seen it said that the Jeep was a gift to her (which would mean the Jeep was in her name, with no loan). Do we have reliable info on this?
...6a I have also seen it said that this guy was married. Is that true? Do we know who he was to her?

7 As we try to make sense of the multiple men in PR's life, some of them much older and some abusive, and see her erratic and alarming behavior that day, and the info of a part-time night job which might have exposed her to predators, I have to wonder if (unknown to family) this sort of drama on Apr 17 was not new to her. Her son and family offered incentive in a good direction, but was she used to bad alternatives she might have considered at that point, 6 pm, alone, crying, hiding from cops, the (ex-)bf not there to help her out of a jam and fussing with her earlier?

8 Her phone still worked for some time after 6. LE says it did not stop pinging at 6, but hasn't told us how long. But that's why we look for her there, since at 6 she stopped using it.
.... 8a But could she simply have been separated from her phone? If so, what might that have looked like? Was she the type to get mad and toss it off the building? [You'd think if it was simply lost, it would have been found at some point later, by someone.]
.... 8b If she still had her phone, then she was still there until it stopped pinging. Did she pass out or fall asleep? [But if so, someone would have noticed her, right?]
... 8c How/why did no one notice her presence after 6, if she was there? SHE CANNOT HAVE BEEN IN A PUBLIC AREA, FOR HOURS AFTER 6, AND IT'S A TIME SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN EASILY SEEN IF IN A PUBLIC AREA. Because ...

9 IMPORTANT TO NOTE -and something I haven't seen elsewhere - is that the weather and type of day at 6 pm Apr 17 were perfect. It was NOT dark -- sunset was another 2 hours later, and dark 30 minutes after that. No rain, a bit of breeze. Temp was about 78 and got down to about 72 at dark.
... Could she have tossed her phone in the dumpster, say, and just walked away down the street on a nice spring day to who knows where (or to whom)? [But then, why didn't she or they ever tell us where she is?]
... Did she have any friends or connections who lived or worked close by?

10 There's been no mention by anyone, but I have to wonder about the possibility of drugs in the equation. Not her drink being spiked (I saw LE in some report say they watched the video of the entire time she was at the bar, and it never happened, no chance). But could some drug dealer have come along in that garage and offered her something? Would she have taken it, and then who knows what? Is it possible she ever took drugs at times, perhaps to keep her going? Mix the use of some drugs, a bad reaction or an OD, or a rape and abuse and killing, and then someone is finding a way to haul away a body to hide what happened. [Although, how easy is that to do discreetly?]

 

[Laura456]

Its frustrating that the ping locations were not released. It would help to have an idea of where people should be looking/paying closer attention. Of course if she was trying to evade police, she might have tossed it somewhere.

 

[SteveS]

Its frustrating that the ping locations were not released. It would help to have an idea of where people should be looking/paying closer attention. Of course if she was trying to evade police, she might have tossed it somewhere.

WE DO KNOW the place of the last pings (Olympus), which is the answer to "where people should be looking."

While times and locations of all the pings would clarify for us what route Prisma took as she drove from Road Rage to Olympus, I don't think knowing that exact route matters, since she was almost certainly doing nothing but driving from point A to point B (while drunk, angry, lost, and confused). I'd like to know the ping locations, of course, because it gives us one more thing to play with and discuss. But there's not really any time for her to have stopped anywhere, given what we do know, so having all the pings to show us the exact route she drove wouldn't tell us anything useful.

LE has told us that, even though she apparently stopped using the phone at 6 at Olympus, it continued to ping there, and all the pings from 6:00 pm and later were at the apartment building up until the phone shut off and stopped pinging. We don't know how long that continued, but it was apparently some period of time - and we are told she was called over the next few hours and it rang, rather than going directly to voicemail, so it wasn't dead for a while. That tells us she remained there, even though not using the phone, unless she somehow was separated from her phone (however, the phone hasn't been found there either, which hints that it went with her -- if she just tossed it, it seems so likely it would have been found in all the searches).

LE's actions certainly reinforce that their info tells them she was THERE (at Olympus) for some time after 6 (at least until her phone died), as all of their search focus was on that location, trying to find some clue of what happened to her from that place. She vanished from there, as the last place she was known to be. That's the answer to "where people should be looking."

 

[indicolite22]

Thank you. And having now completed the reading of all the WS posts, @indicolite22 I am impressed and thankful for your ability and willingness to keep the facts (as we know them) straight for us.

Thank you. I have no personal connection to the case but found the mystery of Prisma's disappearance fascinating from the start. Hopefully we'll learn one day what happened to her.

I agree with your observations and have a few comments.

3 There were 2 calls made while on that drive, at 5:25 and 5:27. One was to R. It may have been around the time she started heading back towards Olympus, but I would wager she was calling LOOKING for someone who could get her to some place of refuge. (There's no indication either call was answered. I think she went there assuming she could make it work - and then when she arrived, she is calling, calling, calling to get R to tell her the apt # and how to get in).

I also wonder why she called the guy she is talking to (on the phone) in front of the garage elevator. That was another ex-bf. Did she seek help from him, too? She didn't appear upset on the call to me, though her father commented that she looked angry. IIRC, after that there was allegedly a witness who rode the elevator (the one on the other side of the garage) with Prisma who described that she was crying.

4 While R would make a great suspect, I can't fit him. I don't see any reason for him to even know she went there. I trust the police have superb ability to check an alibi and see if it holds up, so I accept R was (a) elsewhere until 4 am, and (b) unaware that PR was at his building. And just as important to me, other than the fact he seems to generally be a jerk, there's no real motive for him to want to kill her.

I agree. We spent most of the time focusing on him. It is interesting though that he didn't seem to be interested in finding Prisma. He did reportedly cooperate with police, but didn't appear in public appeals or anything similar. Maybe they weren't really back together, despite the several calls between them in the last two days.

As for the idea he could have done something after 4 am, that doesn't work either. Because PR vanished at 6 pm-ish. And not knowing the apartment number nor having a key, I don't see an angry, emotional, confused drunk being able to get to get into his apartment.
.... Although a magic scenario can be invented. Magically, she does figure out his apt #. She gets a key. She gets in. She crashes on his bed. Phone dies. She sleeps. And when he gets home, he's so pissed he ...? No wait - I'm a man, and I come home to find a babe in my bed, it doesn't make me mad.

One of the sources mentioned that he might have been on a date with someone else that night, although he was said to have been with friends, who could likely corroborate his alibi. IF he was done with Prisma, he wouldn't be happy to see her in his apartment, especially if he brought someone else there. Also, one of our VIs stated that he was violent with Prisma in the past.

5 I did see a post that she knew AT LEAST one other person who lived in that building, derived from the friends list on her FB page. Isn't it possible she could have bumped into this person that evening? Have they been looked at closely? "She saw someone she knew and went with them" feels like something a person would be more likely to do, than going with someone she did not know.

I had that person's name at the time. IIRC he was a family man. None of the guys Prisma had interaction with that day seemed to be on her FB friend list. Maybe she kept separate circles of friends/acquaintances.

6 I have seen stories that the Jeep was not in her name at all, and was owned by an older man. I have alternately seen it said she had a "co-signer" (which would mean the Jeep was in her name after all, with a loan she was paying). I have alternately seen it said that the Jeep was a gift to her (which would mean the Jeep was in her name, with no loan). Do we have reliable info on this?
...6a I have also seen it said that this guy was married. Is that true? Do we know who he was to her?

I don't think there was anything said officially about the ownership or her Jeep. The info came from the VIs and might not be verified.

7 As we try to make sense of the multiple men in PR's life, some of them much older and some abusive, and see her erratic and alarming behavior that day, and the info of a part-time night job which might have exposed her to predators, I have to wonder if (unknown to family) this sort of drama on Apr 17 was not new to her. Her son and family offered incentive in a good direction, but was she used to bad alternatives she might have considered at that point, 6 pm, alone, crying, hiding from cops, the (ex-)bf not there to help her out of a jam and fussing with her earlier?

I wonder why she left her previous job as a paralegal to work for a used car dealership (she was on the new job for two weeks). It appears that she was not planning on returning to work after lunch, so maybe she was looking for a change.

8 Her phone still worked for some time after 6. LE says it did not stop pinging at 6, but hasn't told us how long. But that's why we look for her there, since at 6 she stopped using it.
.... 8a But could she simply have been separated from her phone? If so, what might that have looked like? Was she the type to get mad and toss it off the building? [You'd think if it was simply lost, it would have been found at some point later, by someone.]
.... 8b If she still had her phone, then she was still there until it stopped pinging. Did she pass out or fall asleep? [But if so, someone would have noticed her, right?]
... 8c How/why did no one notice her presence after 6, if she was there? SHE CANNOT HAVE BEEN IN A PUBLIC AREA, FOR HOURS AFTER 6, AND IT'S A TIME SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN EASILY SEEN IF IN A PUBLIC AREA. Because ...

Her phone could have fallen in a hard to reach place with the battery dying before it could be traced. Maybe the phone was taken away from her while she was passed out. But where did she go? Did she encounter a predator who offered her a ride? Or did she start knocking on apartment doors? These are all possible, though maybe not very probable.

9 IMPORTANT TO NOTE -and something I haven't seen elsewhere - is that the weather and type of day at 6 pm Apr 17 were perfect. It was NOT dark -- sunset was another 2 hours later, and dark 30 minutes after that. No rain, a bit of breeze. Temp was about 78 and got down to about 72 at dark.
... Could she have tossed her phone in the dumpster, say, and just walked away down the street on a nice spring day to who knows where (or to whom)? [But then, why didn't she or they ever tell us where she is?]
... Did she have any friends or connections who lived or worked close by?

We weren't made aware of any connections nearby. What if one of her caller friends did send help and she abandoned her Jeep to leave with them (turned off her phone and walked out)? The last caller indicated that she was very confused. In that scenario, she could have passed out or exited the building and wandered off, but then what?

10 There's been no mention by anyone, but I have to wonder about the possibility of drugs in the equation. Not her drink being spiked (I saw LE in some report say they watched the video of the entire time she was at the bar, and it never happened, no chance). But could some drug dealer have come along in that garage and offered her something? Would she have taken it, and then who knows what? Is it possible she ever took drugs at times, perhaps to keep her going? Mix the use of some drugs, a bad reaction or an OD, or a rape and abuse and killing, and then someone is finding a way to haul away a body to hide what happened. [Although, how easy is that to do discreetly?]

If it did not happen in an apartment and the dealer couldn't be linked to her via DNA, then they probably wouldn't need to get rid of the body. It would be interesting to know if Prisma was still on the garage roof at the time of her last call. There were no cameras in the apartment corridors so a perp could probably get away with using a suitcase to remove the body.

 

[SteveS]

Thank you. I have no personal connection to the case but found the mystery of Prisma's disappearance fascinating from the start. Hopefully we'll learn one day what happened to her.

I agree with your observations and have a few comments.

1 I also wonder why she called the guy she is talking to (on the phone) in front of the garage elevator. That was another ex-bf. Did she seek help from him, too? She didn't appear upset on the call to me, though her father commented that she looked angry. IIRC, after that there was allegedly a witness who rode the elevator (the one on the other side of the garage) with Prisma who described that she was crying.

2 I agree. We spent most of the time focusing on him. It is interesting though that he didn't seem to be interested in finding Prisma. He did reportedly cooperate with police, but didn't appear in public appeals or anything similar. Maybe they weren't really back together, despite the several calls between them in the last two days.

One of the sources mentioned that he might have been on a date with someone else that night, although he was said to have been with friends, who could likely corroborate his alibi. IF he was done with Prisma, he wouldn't be happy to see her in his apartment, especially if he brought someone else there. Also, one of our VIs stated that he was violent with Prisma in the past.

3a I had that person's name at the time. IIRC he was a family man. None of the guys Prisma had interaction with that day seemed to be on her FB friend list. Maybe she kept separate circles of friends/acquaintances.

3b I don't think there was anything said officially about the ownership or her Jeep. The info came from the VIs and might not be verified.

4 I wonder why she left her previous job as a paralegal to work for a used car dealership (she was on the new job for two weeks). It appears that she was not planning on returning to work after lunch, so maybe she was looking for a change.

5 Her phone could have fallen in a hard to reach place with the battery dying before it could be traced. Maybe the phone was taken away from her while she was passed out. But where did she go? Did she encounter a predator who offered her a ride? Or did she start knocking on apartment doors? These are all possible, though maybe not very probable.

We weren't made aware of any connections nearby. What if one of her caller friends did send help and she abandoned her Jeep to leave with them (turned off her phone and walked out)? The last caller indicated that she was very confused. In that scenario, she could have passed out or exited the building and wandered off, but then what?

If it did not happen in an apartment and the dealer couldn't be linked to her via DNA, then they probably wouldn't need to get rid of the body. It would be interesting to know if Prisma was still on the garage roof at the time of her last call. There were no cameras in the apartment corridors so a perp could probably get away with using a suitcase to remove the body.

(I put numbers in your comments to identify what I am replying to.)

1 To me, the 5:50-ish to 6:00-ish phone calls are confusing, because the various conversations by insiders and the like use varying shorthand (referring to them by times, places, who it was to, the last 4 digits of the phone number, and so on), and at times appear to get them mixed. And I didn't write a book to keep track of who said what, and where, which would be needed to sift all this. But it was said (by step-dad maybe?) that what we saw on the video was her call to ____ (maybe the photographer iirc?) in which she thought she was calling R, and was frustrated and then sheepish when she finally understood she called the wrong person. While I thought that call was later, maybe not?

2 I too was somewhat puzzled by R's disinterest in talking about Prisma to people asking -- but, in his defense, he's already told LE all there is he knows, and who are these curiosity-seekers pestering him to answer their interrogations? Why does he have to prove himself to them? What right do they have to consider him guilty, just because he doesn't think it's any of their business?

I don't think any of us - including the various vloggers - have any real ability to figure out what happened to her. They - like me, and perhaps you -- are just intrigued and curious and wishers for a good outcome, and in some cases making an income off of feeding "info" to people like us.

I trust LE was smart enough to be accurate in determining he really wasn't there from 6:00 to 4:00am. And that's when she disappeared, when it was still light for a few more hours, her phone is still pinging showing her there, his apartment is locked and she doesn't know which one it is, and no one is seeing her. Since then LE has talked with him at length, he's cooperated, no doubt examined his phone and all messages of any kind, searched his apartment, and more. I want to think he did it, because he seems to be a creep, but it just doesn't work imo.

Oh, and I don't think he felt they were in a relationship at all -- he walks away from her at lunch after relatively short get-together, later in the day she OBSESSIVELY is calling him over and over, and he just puts her on ignore. IMO That's not a guy who is all that interested (except maybe for the occasional booty call with the ex).

3a, 3b Thanks for the info.

4 My guess is she was fired, but she could have quit. "Paralegal" is just a glorified title for a clerk in a law office who does non-law helper things like answer phones, file papers, and so on, and is not necessarily a lucrative job. In some settings, "cute girl who greets the customers and makes them feel good to be there" (at car dealer) might pay even more.

I do think the events at the car dealer, and as the day unfolded, tell us more about her that hint she might not have ONLY been the "hard-working single mom" as we first supposed. Lots of conflict, lack of responsibility, heavy drinking - with DUI-ing, sketch night job, pulling a gun on people in a rage, questionable men involved with, they all offer sub-currents way different from that good girl.

5 The COMBO of missing girl and missing phone is what makes it hard to create a scenario to fit. Neither is there at Olympus anymore, so you have to account for how she could have been either (a) separated from her phone and taken off premises while it stays there to ping, yet it is never found, or (b) stays with her phone, so still on the premises (since the phone was) yet not seen for hours - when it's still light for hours. My best guess - she (with phone) has ended up in someone's apartment. But if so, whose?

 

[indicolite22]

1 To me, the 5:50-ish to 6:00-ish phone calls are confusing, because the various conversations by insiders and the like use varying shorthand (referring to them by times, places, who it was to, the last 4 digits of the phone number, and so on), and at times appear to get them mixed. And I didn't write a book to keep track of who said what, and where, which would be needed to sift all this. But it was said (by step-dad maybe?) that what we saw on the video was her call to ____ (maybe the photographer iirc?) in which she thought she was calling R, and was frustrated and then sheepish when she finally understood she called the wrong person. While I thought that call was later, maybe not?

SBM, BBM. No, that part is inaccurate. I saw the numbers in the phone log and it wasn't the guy (photographer) she mistakenly dialed (she actually called him twice in quick succession). The guy was a guest on Gray Hughes' channel and confirmed it. We never learned what she talked about to the guy from the video who was the first one she called after arriving at the Olympus.

 

[SteveS]

SBM, BBM. No, that part is inaccurate. I saw the numbers in the phone log and it wasn't the guy (photographer) she mistakenly dialed (she actually called him twice in quick succession). The guy was a guest on Gray Hughes' channel and confirmed it. We never learned what she talked about to the guy from the video who was the first one she called after arriving at the Olympus.

What I relayed to you is what WAS said by one of them (and I think it was the step-dad) -- but I haven't done enough work (and don't intend to) to argue what's really the truth. But what stood out to me was that person saying the video'ed call was where she was confused as to who she had dialed, COMBINED WITH the assertion that this explained her video actions/reactions as she was talking.

As I said before, from reading and watching it all back-to-back-to-back, I am firmly convinced we have had conflicting and unintentional misinformation strewn here and there. This could be an instance of that.

We could really use a DEFINITIVE AND EXHAUSTIVE spreadsheet, available to peruse as needed, that has every call that day, logged by person called, who they were, time and phone number, along with every report of whatever we have been told about that call (and by whom, and in what source including URL, or by post number if a VI at WS). I have never seen anything other than snippets of info like that.

I do wonder if the time stamp on the video in front of elevator is verified as accurate.

 

[indicolite22]

What I relayed to you is what WAS said by one of them (and I think it was the step-dad) -- but I haven't done enough work (and don't intend to) to argue what's really the truth. But what stood out to me was that person saying the video'ed call was where she was confused as to who she had dialed, COMBINED WITH the assertion that this explained her video actions/reactions as she was talking.

As I said before, from reading and watching it all back-to-back-to-back, I am firmly convinced we have had conflicting and unintentional misinformation strewn here and there. This could be an instance of that.

We could really use a DEFINITIVE AND EXHAUSTIVE spreadsheet, available to peruse as needed, that has every call that day, logged by person called, who they were, time and phone number, along with every report of whatever we have been told about that call (and by whom, and in what source including URL, or by post number if a VI at WS). I have never seen anything other than snippets of info like that.

I do wonder if the time stamp on the video in front of elevator is verified as accurate.

My source was her phone log (shown on GH) where you can see which numbers were in contact with her multiple times that day. The number of the guy from the elevator video appeared only once. He gave no interviews. I think someone confirmed that he wasn't the Jeep guy.

 

[SteveS]

My source was her phone log (shown on GH) where you can see which numbers were in contact with her multiple times that day. The number of the guy from the elevator video appeared only once. He gave no interviews. I think someone confirmed that he wasn't the Jeep guy.

Thanks. I don't doubt your info, nor am I saying what I saw on video was accurate. Only saying what was said, and by someone who should have known. (But maybe didn't, of course.)

Do we know the time stamp on the video was accurate, to be sure we are matching the right call from the log to what is seen on video?

Do you have a location for that phone log (URL, and approx place on whatever massive-length video of GH it is)? Or a transcribed version of it online somewhere? I don't recall seeing that.

 

[indicolite22]

Thanks. I don't doubt your info, nor am I saying what I saw on video was accurate. Only saying what was said, and by someone who should have known. (But maybe didn't, of course.)

Do we know the time stamp on the video was accurate, to be sure we are matching the right call from the log to what is seen on video?

Do you have a location for that phone log (URL, and approx place on whatever massive-length video of GH it is)? Or a transcribed version of it online somewhere? I don't recall seeing that.

I have seen no indication that the time stamp on the elevator video was incorrect. The timeline has been analyzed many times by GH.

You can see the phone log at 24:11 in this video:

 

[MC4lyfe]

Do we know the location of the so called friends house he was at ? Have they been able to confirm or ID the girl who he went on a date with ? Ebar is a strange place so I hear . I realized I have been to Ebar (completely drunk, The Olympus , and Lakewood flats. This info is for sure making me think and think about these locations more. I use to go to houses in the area of her turn around and use to have to go to Garland and Mesquite for work . He is correct about the traffic and especially on 30. It is bumper to bumper alot of times at this time . They do have side streets that run along the highway. I would totally see how she turned around during this time . With that being said you can drive anywhere during this time on the hwy or side roads .I am so surprised more cameras Dnt have her in view . Question, why is the timeline so off during the whole E bar stint? I feel like we didn’t get much from this side of things . Why did the school call her that early in the morning?

 

[MC4lyfe]

What type of drink was she having at the bar ? Do we have information on have they ID the other person she knew at the Olympus ? I wonder what R her, ex does for occupation. Is it odd for the compliant in the driving case decided not to continue with the investigation? I guess I need to look at that date but how did they know she wouldn’t turn up or just hiding ? I can say there are some places to turn around on I 30. There are plenty or over and underpasses . I know Dolphin is one of the over passes that lets you turn around ( by Samuels park. I think E grand has an under pass and that maybe the one by McDonald’s. White Rock Lake also is not very far from this area . It’s a bette way to escape traffic a little .

 

[MC4lyfe]

I also think the ex behavior is 100 %. It looks like he initiated / contacted her first from what we are given. He wasn’t that far removed from their relationship. Him not working with LE and moving out the apartments is off. What decent person wouldn’t want to work with LE to help return person and mother. He couldn’t have that much hate because he met up with her or could he? Why would he move out ? This case was not made very public in the area at the time. Those were pretty nice and new at that time . Downtown was a prime spot for the younger single crowd . Did they say if she called baby daddy on this day ? If so what was the convo like ? Did they take any evidence from the apt of the other person she potentially knew at the Olympus ? I can also add those apts were not well lit at night and kind of isolated . Can they confirm that ex bf was at the appts by him driving in ? He had is his car when he left Ebar . What time did he get home ? His fob hard to have been tracked at a fob location at the apartments.

 

[MC4lyfe]

Do we know the location of the so called friends house he was at ? Have they been able to confirm or ID the girl who he went on a date with ? Ebar is a strange place so I hear . I realized I have been to Ebar (completely drunk, The Olympus , and Lakewood flats. This info is for sure making me think and think about these locations more. I use to go to houses in the area of her turn around and use to have to go to Garland and Mesquite for work . He is correct about the traffic and especially on 30. It is bumper to bumper alot of times at this time . They do have side streets that run along the highway. I would totally see how she turned around during this time . With that being said you can drive anywhere during this time on the hwy or side roads .I am so surprised more cameras Dnt have her in view . Question, why is the timeline so off during the whole E bar stint? I feel like we didn’t get much from this side of things . Why did the school call her that early in the morning?

I say location at the so called friends because was the flats any of R’s friends Apt’s ?

 

[MC4lyfe]

What type of drink was she having at the bar ? Do we have information on have they ID the other person she knew at the Olympus ? I wonder what R her, ex does for occupation. Is it odd for the compliant in the driving case decided not to continue with the investigation? I guess I need to look at that date but how did they know she wouldn’t turn up or just hiding ? I can say there are some places to turn around on I 30. There are plenty or over and underpasses . I know Dolphin is one of the over passes that lets you turn around ( by Samuels park. I think E grand has an under pass and that maybe the one by McDonald’s. White Rock Lake also is not very far from this area . It’s a bette way to escape traffic a little .

FYI I call the side streets and the roads off 30 White Rock Lake ,

I say location at the so called friends because was the flats any of R’s friends Apt’s ?more things and I am done . What’s her usually pick up arrangements with the son ? Does she usually pick him up in the evenings ? I would like to see the calls from the night before and the start of the morning . I wonder what her text messages look like . That does her alt life style mean ? What trouble went along with that ? Somebody can dance and not get involved in the lifestyle.

 

[indicolite22]

Did they say if she called baby daddy on this day ? If so what was the convo like ?

SBM. Judging by her phone records, I don't think she did. The father of her son is also a verified insider here. He is far more interested in solving Prisma's case than R.

Did they take any evidence from the apt of the other person she potentially knew at the Olympus ?

They would need a warrant to search his apartment. I don't think knowing her was a strong enough reason.

Can they confirm that ex bf was at the appts by him driving in ?

The garage camera is pointing at the guest entrance, so probably not.

What time did he get home ? His fob hard to have been tracked at a fob location at the apartments.

Reportedly he arrived home at 4am. LE said that he had an alibi for the evening and was in a neighboring city with friends.

 

[indicolite22]

Do we have information on have they ID the other person she knew at the Olympus ?

SBM. Not officially, but it was one of her friends on Facebook. Interestingly, the men she contacted that day were not on that list.

I guess I need to look at that date but how did they know she wouldn’t turn up or just hiding ?

IIRC, her family was partially hoping that she left voluntarily and would turn up after the child custody hearing. I think her mother was awarded custody at first.

I now tend to believe the theory that she went to the Olympus to hide after the road rage incident. Something unexpected happened afterwards.

 

[indicolite22]

Do we know the location of the so called friends house he was at ? Have they been able to confirm or ID the girl who he went on a date with ?

SBM. We don't know the location and LE said that he was with friends. It's unknown if that was at a house, a bar/restaurant or in multiple locations during the evening. Police did not mention that he was on a date, that came from another source.

Question, why is the timeline so off during the whole E bar stint? I feel like we didn’t get much from this side of things .

IF the events were the result of the road rage incident, then the e-bar details don't matter as much. We know that she stayed there alone after the ex left (was also on camera) and was refused more drink before she left.