TX TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #49

[SweetDreamsAreMadeOfCheez]

The disguise was bulky and awkward. I doubt the suspect drove to the church in that wardrobe. I am betting they changed into the disguise somewhere. If they changed in the parking lot, they lucked out with the cameras outdoors not working. Question is did those cameras actually work or just there for a deterrent? If they normally work but didn't that day, maybe the burglar was employed by the church and knew those cameras didn't work. This as close as I go to a burglar. A possible church employer who knew the church well. Yet this fails to account for why the main offices weren't broke into then. Unless they were looking for something else? JMO

 

[Megnut]

As good a theory as any.

Expanding on your theory, a former forum member with, imo good insights raised the possibility of a "Larper" (Live Action Role Playing).

Larpers create characters, costumes and participate in spontaneously scripted fantasy adventures with the like minded simply for entertainment, socialization, and personal creativity. I once saw a news story once on "Lord of the Rings" type larpers trapsing around a nearby nature area in my city.

Anyways....

The former member thought that the individual was solo Larping- but also had a "real world" position of prestige or respect in the community and / or had an employer who would not tolerate breaking and entering type arrests.

So.... they are solo larping with a destructive streak. Maybe fantasizing about being a powerful SWAT dude / chick. Instead of fleeing when she hears the larper, Missy goes to investigate. Fearing loss of job and shame (or both) the larper then attacks and kills her in a panic?

I replied to correct my original post, from "wanna cop" to "wanna be a cop", but it expanded your post and I can now see your reply above.

I wonder if this person ever did it before or after.

Jmo

 

[Megnut]

The disguise was bulky and awkward. I doubt the suspect drove to the church in that wardrobe. I am betting they changed into the disguise somewhere. If they changed in the parking lot, they lucked out with the cameras outdoors not working. Question is did those cameras actually work or just there for a deterrent? If they normally work but didn't that day, maybe the burglar was employed by the church and knew those cameras didn't work. This as close as I go to a burglar. A possible church employer who knew the church well. Yet this fails to account for why the main offices weren't broke into then. Unless they were looking for something else? JMO

That lends to one of my wild theories. That it was dome specifically to highlight the limits of the security system in order to secure a more speedy one. There would have been enough damage by morning someone would have checked the cameras, seen how easily this person could get in, violate their protection and make the case for a bigger, better security package. Due to the rain, if they were aware of MB's class, they expected it to have been canceled. Would had left on their own before staff's arrival.

How that resulted in a murder, I can't explain, unless MB would have been able to identify the individual which would have ruined their job, standing, etc.

And now living with the guilt and shame of what they did and the very real pressure of worrying they'll be found out.

And if ever there is that arrest, no one would believe the person capable of it.

JMO

 

[lonewanderer]

As good a theory as any.

Expanding on your theory, a former forum member with, imo good insights raised the possibility of a "Larper" (Live Action Role Playing).

Larpers create characters, costumes and participate in spontaneously scripted fantasy adventures with the like minded simply for entertainment, socialization, and personal creativity. I once saw a news story about "Lord of the Rings" type larpers trapsing around a nearby nature area in my city.

Anyways....

The former member thought that the individual was solo Larping- but also had a "real world" position of prestige or respect in the community and / or had an employer who would not tolerate Breaking and Entering type arrests.

So.... the perpertrater is solo LARPing with a destructive streak. Maybe fantasizing about being a powerful SWAT dude / chick. Instead of fleeing when she hears the Larper, Missy goes to investigate. Fearing loss of job and shame (or both) the larper then attacks and kills Missy in a panic?

My biggest gripe with that is that LARPers want to be seen and are overly theatrical.

This person wasn’t pretending to be a cop at all. Didn’t have police weapons out, wasn’t using their hands to make imaginary rifles, wasn’t pretending to clear rooms, wasn’t pretending to apprehend imaginary people.

In all ways shapes and forms, this person was doing the exact opposite of what a LARPer would do.

 

[SweetDreamsAreMadeOfCheez]

That lends to one of my wild theories. That it was dome specifically to highlight the limits of the security system in order to secure a more speedy one. There would have been enough damage by morning someone would have checked the cameras, seen how easily this person could get in, violate their protection and make the case for a bigger, better security package. Due to the rain, if they were aware of MB's class, they expected it to have been canceled. Would had left on their own before staff's arrival.

How that resulted in a murder, I can't explain, unless MB would have been able to identify the individual which would have ruined their job, standing, etc.

And now living with the guilt and shame of what they did and the very real pressure of worrying they'll be found out.

And if ever there is that arrest, no one would believe the person capable of it.

JMO

A very real possibility. Given this theory, I would wonder if anyone employed by the church stayed for awhile, but eventually left and maybe had a complete personality change. This person may have had some attempted suicides or a successful suicide. Just some food for thought with your theory. JMO

 

[CrimeTheorist]

Maybe the killer was on probation and knew if they got caught doing anything illegal they would be in really big trouble. Also, being caught wearing the fake police uniform wouldn't be good for them either.

 

[Rush4087]

This case has reminded me all along iof the Heather Elvis care in SC

Jmo

 

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[FromGermany1]

As good a theory as any.

Expanding on your theory, a former forum member with, imo good insights raised the possibility of a "Larper" (Live Action Role Playing).

Larpers create characters, costumes and participate in spontaneously scripted fantasy adventures with the like minded simply for entertainment, socialization, and personal creativity. I once saw a news story about "Lord of the Rings" type larpers trapsing around a nearby nature area in my city.

Anyways....

The former member thought that the individual was solo Larping- but also had a "real world" position of prestige or respect in the community and / or had an employer who would not tolerate Breaking and Entering type arrests.

So.... the perpertrater is solo LARPing with a destructive streak. Maybe fantasizing about being a powerful SWAT dude / chick. Instead of fleeing when she hears the Larper, Missy goes to investigate. Fearing loss of job and shame (or both) the larper then attacks and kills Missy in a panic?

bbm
I think, even for himself the LARPer (if one) had presented a very silly drama with walking the hallways and shredding some door windows etc, before Missy arrived. What the SP did on camera, namely ridiculous things in a slow way, wasn't worth even putting on the Swat gear. I can't imagine, that exactly that "pastime" (rather powerless waddling around wearing uniform) is satisfying for a LARPer??

I'm still thinking, the SP was there not for B&E but for Missy; he knew, when she would arrive and he was waiting. IMO

 

[sunspun]

I don't think they were there for Missy, but I admit I can see it that way too. What I do feel sure of, and this is MOO, is that the perp had not been in that building before that night (morning actually). Seems obvious to me, from watching the videos and how they moved about in there and things they did. I think they were fairly young, possibly a teenager.

 

[lonewanderer]

This case has reminded me all along iof the Heather Elvis care in SC

Jmo

Shades of that case and Erica Stefanko have both been mentioned before.

If you are unfamiliar with Erika Stefanko, she highly severely cruelly abused her stepdaughter and threatened her husband into ambushing the child’s mother (who was now lesbian and ABSOLUTELY zero threat to her). The mother was a pizza delivery driver and Erika delivered a pizza to a certain place and forced her husband to participate in killing his child’s mother.

One possible theory (if this was targeted) stems from that, much like Heather Elvis. Basically, a super jealous and controlling wife forcing her husband to carry out a gruesome act.

 

[Cryptic]

My biggest gripe with that is that LARPers want to be seen and are overly theatrical. This person wasn’t pretending to be a cop at all.

I think you have a very valid gripe.

One possible explanation for the lack of "complete Larping" could be that the perp is experimenting with Larping thing- but is gradually finding the experience underwhelming. Say:

- Perpetrator has fuzzy Larping interests. Maybe centered on a strong / "in control" type ultra ego of some sort. Perp has never Larped with others (reputation to maintain-right?). So unused to full acting while Larping.

- Tries Larping an abandoned building. But.... the experience is not what he or she expected. Perp then thinks that an in use building will give the real experience that they are looking for.

- Breaks into the church. But.... really does not know how to "Larp" and.... experiences a "Now what?" moment. Blows off pent up and unfulfilled expectations by breaking a few things, wanders around etc?-

 

[CrimeTheorist]

I think sometimes people just break into places for the thrill of it, not necessarily to steal or destroy property. The killer picked an early time and had a strong disguise so the chances of them getting caught were pretty slim but they would still feel a rush from doing it. In my opinion they either didn't think of how they would react to getting caught or never thought they would react the way they did.

 

[Cryptic]

I think sometimes people just break into places for the thrill of it, not necessarily to steal or destroy property. The killer picked an early time and had a strong disguise so the chances of them getting caught were pretty slim but they would still feel a rush from doing it. In my opinion they either didn't think of how they would react to getting caught or never thought they would react the way they did.

I think this Occam's Razor theory is far more simpler than my quasi Larping theory.

Then again, the totality of the elaborate SWAT like gear, instead of a more simple mask, could suggest at least a partial Larping motive ala: Doing it for the thrills, but I am also "in character" of sorts as bad a-- SWAT dude / chick.

In either case, I think the murder based initially on "thrills" or semi larping motive could imply somebody who has a job / reputation that would be put in danger by an arrest. Thus, the quick jump from "screwing around" to actual murder?

 

[Cryptic]

What the SP did on camera, namely ridiculous things in a slow way, wasn't worth even putting on the Swat gear. I can't imagine, that exactly that "pastime" (rather powerless waddling around wearing uniform) is satisfying for a LARPer??

I see your valid question and also understand your good observations.

Lets ask an unhinged thrill seeker / semi Larper about your concerns. Frank Fictitious is walking into the bar now. I"ll talk to him. He says that:

A- Larping around an in use building is an adrenaline high that I don't simply get in my ordinary, boring life.

B. Silly? Is admiring SWAT officers silly? SWAT is serious- right?

B- I am not waddling around!! (it just looks like I am) Rather, my SWAT stuff transforms me into to an athletic, strong and scary SWAT guy / girl.

I decided not to ask him anymore questions- he seemed to be getting pretty annoyed. But...As you can see, what somebody thinks they are can be very different from what somebody actually is.

 

[Chypre]

I think sometimes people just break into places for the thrill of it, not necessarily to steal or destroy property. The killer picked an early time and had a strong disguise so the chances of them getting caught were pretty slim but they would still feel a rush from doing it. In my opinion they either didn't think of how they would react to getting caught or never thought they would react the way they did.

Prowlers gonna prowl.

 

[joe jones]

I have never felt this was a prowler, just the amount of time spent by the person in the church to me says he/she was intentionally there waiting for Missy, I hope LE are still working on her case, and maybe asking another agency to go through all the evidence to see if they can see if something was missed. This is one of the cases I still check up on and hope it gets solved.

 

[crazychris]

If this was a planned homicide there were so many better places to kill Missy. It doesn't make sense to do it the way they did, if she were targeted (IMO).

Fully agree and that's why I think it wasn't targeted.

 

[lonewanderer]

I have never felt this was a prowler, just the amount of time spent by the person in the church to me says he/she was intentionally there waiting for Missy, I hope LE are still working on her case, and maybe asking another agency to go through all the evidence to see if they can see if something was missed. This is one of the cases I still check up on and hope it gets solved.

Fully agree and that's why I think it wasn't targeted.

I have a very, very strong opinion on if she was targeted or not.

However, as a person of logic, both sides have very compelling reasons for why they think or do not think the way they do.

 

[al66pine]

If this was a planned homicide there were so many better places to kill Missy. It doesn't make sense to do it the way they did, if she were targeted (IMO).

snipped for focus. @red carpet fiber Thx for your post.
I have not locked in a theory, suspect, or type of suspect for this tragic death.

If perp did specifically target Missy and wanted it to be at a location w nobody else around to witness, the church interior MAY have made sense to him/her.
IIRC her soc media announced that she would be at that location at a given time, so could make sense to perp that she would be there, likely ALONE for a short time. If she had brought someone (her dau?) w her or if a class member had shown up & gone into building w her, perp could have aborted the "mission." Seems after attacking, perp did not hang around scene for long.

Of course the church security cam's add another possible issue. Did perp know about them, so went all out w the SWAT outfit? Know that one (or more?) was not functioning, again IIRC.

Trying to think of a couple "better places" if perp specifically targeted her.
IDK what her schedule or usu. day was like. If she was typically at home w dau(s?) for multiple hours, house would not be a good place.
Seems like many other places, esp'ly businesses, would have security cam's.

In Ap. 2018, not so many private home sec. system cam's, as are now common, pretty much before the era of $100 Ring, as an Amazon subsidiary. Seems a perp would consider sec cam's generally as a possibility but maybe not.

You may be right. Many different factors to weigh.