TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #13

[mrsdashwv]

I don't think it stated HE was wearing it. I believe it was his wifes shirt and she was wearing it
Anyone?

This site says that RB "had to break up a fight between two dogs at her home, which led to blood getting on his clothing" when talking about why the shirt was bloody. I might have misinterpreted. http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/201...oody-shirts-to-dry-cleaner-warrant-says.html/

 

[Sherazhad]

Yes I think a simple white t shirt would not be something I would waste money on to be professionally cleaned, particularly one covered in the blood of my newly deceased dog. I would not want to be reminded of his injuries when I wore the tshirt. I would dispose of it. I guess everyone is different though and they may just be quite frugal.

 

[Dushi]

Here is the link to the shirts

Randy Bevers told CBS DFW that the blood came from their pet dog Kilo, who was killed in a fight with another dog at a relative's house, where and his wife have been staying since the murder. Randy Bevers said shirts belonging to both him and his wife were stained with the animal's blood when they brought the dying animal to the Animal Emergency Hospital of Mansfield.


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/warrant-father-in-law-of-mom-in-church-murder-had-bloody-shirt/

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Yes - when it originally came out I had the same question. Apparently there were two bloody shirts. One was a man's shirt that belonged to RB and the other was the XXL woman's shirt they LE took from the dry cleaners. According to the interview, both shirts were at the dry cleaners but RB didn't seem to think they took his. As far as I know it hasn't been confirmed whether or not they took both or if they didn't why they only took the woman's shirt.

"why they only took the woman's shirt" - I would guess because men don't care. Throw it away and wear another one. Whereas a woman would say, "my favorite blouse!" and try to get the cleaners to save it. Speaking from experience

 

[verbonica]

I have one more observation that may have already been hashed out. In my small town where services tend to be cheaper, it costs $8.10 to dry clean a t-shirt. The Laura Scott brand is not super-expensive ($14 or less new). Why would you pay that much to dry clean what would seemingly be a disposable shirt? Also, one of the news sites reported that RB had been wearing it to break up the dog fight. Why was he wearing a woman's shirt? So many questions and not enough answers!!! Thanks for listening and for all of the great work you all do!

The cleaners that they went to charges (according to this site):
https://locality.com/place/dry-clean-super-center-of-midlothian-midlothian-tx

$1.49
Shirt Laundered & Pressed

Maybe there is an extra charge for special stain removal, IDK. I suppose that she really likes the shirt.

RB was not wearing the ladies' shirt. His wife was also in on caring for their dog after the fight.

 

[rgrace7475]

I have one more observation that may have already been hashed out. In my small town where services tend to be cheaper, it costs $8.10 to dry clean a t-shirt. The Laura Scott brand is not super-expensive ($14 or less new). Why would you pay that much to dry clean what would seemingly be a disposable shirt? Also, one of the news sites reported that RB had been wearing it to break up the dog fight. Why was he wearing a woman's shirt? So many questions and not enough answers!!! Thanks for listening and for all of the great work you all do!

The dry cleaner receipt shows $15 for 4 shirts. So not too expensive. And I believe the wife was wearing the white Laura Scott shirt.

But still. I wouldn't keep a shirt that used to hve blood from my "beloved" dogs death.

 

[mrsdashwv]

Okay--that makes more sense. I saw another poster say that there were cheap dry-cleaning specials in the area, too. Just wondering about so many things. Thank you!

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Still thinking about the disposal of the SWAT gear.

Sure wish LE (or somebody) would search the large reservoir directly north of the church (Soil Conservation Service Site 2a Reservoir)...because if I were perp on foot running away from church in northerly direction (away from Porte cochere side of church), that'd be my choice of place to pitch some weighted-down, DNA-stained SWAT gear.

Map: red balloon is Creekside Church. Large body of water in the top middle is Soil Conservation Service Site 2a Reservoir.

 

[MargeGunderson]

"why they only took the woman's shirt" - I would guess because men don't care. Throw it away and wear another one. Whereas a woman would say, "my favorite blouse!" and try to get the cleaners to save it. Speaking from experience

I'm sorry I wasn't clear. RB made it sound like both shirts were at the cleaners but LE only took the woman's shirt.

 

[Scout]

Would someone kindly provide the church floor plan diagram drawn by a WS member as well as the generic church floor plan that was previously posted. Thanks!

 

[Glammie]

ARKANSASMIMI.....WOW, WOW, WOW! Why would retiree's need so many cell phone numbers? Loved the way you figured out who had the "extra phone lines." Does anybody know if you can "forward your phone calls from one cell phone to another??"
IE...If I was in Texas right now, could I use my California cell phone number to make it appear I am answering the phone in California, even though I am having the calls forwarded to another phone?? Does anyone know how that works with cell phone towers, or am I barking up the wrong cell phone tower theory? lol. Other than a "spousal alibi" how else could it be proved?

Yes you sure can.

 

[beach]

Admin Note

Only fair to tell you guys I am DONE. Like, stick a fork in me DONE.

No more <modsniping>, no more continually removing posts that violate the rules , including those unspoken that are simply common decency. The case specific parameters have repeatedly been made clear; as well as Websleuths Rules/TOS that also apply. I am now issuing TOs. In fact, I've already issued one and in the process of issuing another.

We are possibly on the brink of an arrest and I always tend to try to be extra lenient so that people who have been following don't lose their posting privileges during such a critical time.

HOWEVER, Tricia, Sparky AND myself have moderating this one thread for days now. That is in addition to other mods helping us behind the scenes. That is a ridiculous amount of coverage. No case should require that on a daily basis.

We are not going to repeat the rules again. They are found in the opening posts and Tricia's posts from last night.

I strongly suggest you guys preview your posts before clicking "Submit Reply".

LAST WORD on this subject.

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[tiffay01]

I hadn't read her journey to Thrive. When I read this, it truly solidified that she had so much going for her, she genuinely seems like such a happy person.

https://www.facebook.com/LevelBrand...41825.286455908118622/602731426491067/?type=3

 

[txmommy]

Hey guys- as I've said, I'm local to the area.

I'm going to have to take a step back from this case. It's making me a bit neurotic and I am really uncomfortable with the way things are going in regards to CT/AJ. I was convinced of CT's involvement up until about 12 hours ago. Most locals seem to believe she is involved.

However, I just am not so sure anymore. I feel like perhaps we are all being played a bit, and that the T's involvement may have started out as a rumor that has since grown many legs and is taking off. The suggestion that LE is aware of these rumors and is utilizing them to further their investigation into someone else- without the public cluing in- is just disturbing to me. I'm uncomfortable with the direction this is going, especially with screenshots being taken from here and posted on FB. I feel a little bit dirty right now.

We have so little facts at this time. I think I'll check in now and again but refrain from posting until something else is released or there is an arrest. I will stil check my in-box but i'm going to just sit on the sidelines for a bit.

 

[jennapuppy]

Although I understand the reasons why some posters suspect CT, I honestly can't fathom how a stay at home mother of 4 young children could find the time to plan such a complex crime. Caring for young children saps my energy and turns my brain to mush! I probably would have arrived at the crime scene and realized I'd picked up the diaper bag instead of my swat vest.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Imo. If the Tuckers are innocent. Then they should simply do a public facebook post or post on the Midlothian facebook page to simply state that this is total bs and we are not involved due to xyz.

But business as usual without a cry out of innocence will leave some wondering. Jmo.

Maybe this is just me, but I'd hope to handle it just the way they are handling it. If I were innocent, I'd rest assured that my friends knew it, and not worry about all the small town gossip (though it'd certainly be easier said than done). I'd try to rise above it rather than invite more attention to it, giving it credence on my Facebook page.

They are not suspects - they owe the casual public nothing. If they are innocent, their time for vindication will come, and they know it. And then all those ppl making snide remarks will crawl back under the woodwork, but the mess won't have stained their personal page (with Facebook 'memorializing' it later with a "2 years ago on this date" post).

 

[ZooSleuth]

I'm not going to lie. If a LEO or their spouse or any citizen do take part in these 5am classes. Then you would think a courtesy patrol by any leo should drive by when possible to make sure the locals are safe at a 5am class.

It's not like the town has that much going on at 4am. So how many deputies work the night shift. And how far apart are they spread out?

What difference would that have made? Even if they did drive-bys they wouldn't have discovered anything before the campers did IMO. Resources are limited and I'm guessing that a workout on a church lawn is pretty low priority at any time of day.

If anything the church should have made sure all of their cameras were working and that they had cameras outside capturing all the doors and windows on the exterior of the building, IMO.

 

[HEY YOU!]

Although I understand the reasons why some posters suspect CT, I honestly can't fathom how a stay at home mother of 4 young children could find the time to plan such a complex crime. Caring for young children saps my energy and turns my brain to mush! I probably would have arrived at the crime scene and realized I'd picked up the diaper bag instead of my swat vest.

I agree, she may have been angry with him or jealous of her or both or neither but as a mom of 4 she would put their needs first. I am willing to bet that she would not put herself in danger of being caught doing anything illegal as she clearly is committed to her children. Nobody gives up their full time job after all those years of school if they don't like being a mom. Trust me on that one. She could have very easily continued her full time career and paid someone to take care of the little ones. Plus, the up close and personal viciousness does not seem like a woman could do that and then remain composed in her day to day life. Just my opinion of course. And if CT is found to have had nothing at all to do with this crime, I would hope she would get a heartfelt apology from all who think it was her.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Hey guys- as I've said, I'm local to the area.

I'm going to have to take a step back from this case. It's making me a bit neurotic and I am really uncomfortable with the way things are going in regards to CT/AJ. I was convinced of CT's involvement up until about 12 hours ago. Most locals seem to believe she is involved.

However, I just am not so sure anymore. I feel like perhaps we are all being played a bit, and that the T's involvement may have started out as a rumor that has since grown many legs and is taking off. The suggestion that LE is aware of these rumors and is utilizing them to further their investigation into someone else- without the public cluing in- is just disturbing to me. I'm uncomfortable with the direction this is going, especially with screenshots being taken from here and posted on FB. I feel a little bit dirty right now.

We have so little facts at this time. I think I'll check in now and again but refrain from posting until something else is released or there is an arrest. I will stil check my in-box but i'm going to just sit on the sidelines for a bit.

I totally agree. I don't believe AJT or CT are involved. I, also, don't believe any family members are involved.
IMO while we post and post and dissect away, LE has their perp in sight and they are waiting for the right time, place and circumstance to move in.

I've never really felt bad about sleuthing anyone...but I feel terrible about dragging these people through the mud, if infact they were completely uninvolved. I (kinda) blame LE for releasing their names in the affidavits.

Hoping justice for Missy and her loved ones comes sooner than later. This family and community has been through enough.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

I have been reading about this case from the day it happened. I cannot keep up with the fast-moving pace though of the boards and as of right now, I'm about 12 hours behind and am going to have to stop reading for awhile. I am giving in to the fact that I will never get/stay caught up.

This is the first case I have followed so closely on WS. So I may be way off base and if so, please let me know.

If I recall correctly, when the search warrants were released they were fairly stale. I thought they were at least a week or so old by the time they were released in the media and discussed here. Am I wrong on that? That leads me to wonder if there have been any number of other warrants we just don't know about yet.

Also, it seems as if people are taking what LE has said publicly to be fully accurate and informational. In my mind, the investigation that they are running is their number one priority. They owe us, the general public, nothing. They are aware that every word they utter, every piece of evidence they refer to, every bit of information that they allow out, is being consumed by not only us, but by the perp(s)/their eventual suspect as well. I fully believe that every word they say is very calculated and planned. They want the perp(s) to know that they know certain things, and they don't want to tip their hand as to other things. They owe the general public no information (and I fully admit that I am one of those that is desperate for much more information) and they will not compromise their investigation to appease me/us. Nor should they.

Another thing I may be way off on, but that I keep coming back to as I read about this case on WS . . . I never viewed the owners of the "target numbers" as POI. I thought they were just what LE indicated - owners of "target numbers". I believed that to mean that for a variety of reasons, calls/messages/communications of some sort had been exchanged between MB and those target numbers. I feel like people may took the information that was released in the search warrant and ran with it out of a desire to have something, anything, to sleuth, but I personally don't feel as if those numbers indicate that any of those people are POI.

Lastly, my mom visited yesterday and we were discussing this case - I grew up in Ellis County and she still resides there - so she is hearing/seeing things locally while I'm reading about the case online. She mentioned that on the day that MB was found in the church, the entire church parking lot was taped off when she drove by and that there were searches being conducted in the fields nearby. Someone asked that around page 25 or so but I haven't tried the quote feature yet so I thought I would just throw that out there.

All of that is MOO, clearly.

And I'm praying for an arrest in this case soon. My heart breaks for MB's family and friends, especially her daughters. I hope that an arrest comes soon and that it won't be even more devastating for them.

Great first post. Welcome!