TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #25

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I kept wondering how people are seeing a "heavy" person in the surveillance footage, and thought maybe it was a combination between top-down camera angle and the bulky gear. Here's what happens when a camera is at a top-down angle:
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I created a brief animation using my "body scan" technique. I removed pockets, belts, shoes, padding, fabric, and helmet from the subject, limiting the amount stripped from each layer to the general body frame. Wherever an area of clothing folded against or confined an area of the body, that was the size I determined the body part to be and kept it consistent frame to frame. Using a technique similar to facial reconstruction (but subtractive instead of additive), I used key frames to eliminate the costume. I did not add or subtract any weight. Only the obvious bulk from clothing was subtracted. This is what I ended up with. I thought you guys might find it interesting:

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Great animation -- this solidifies my belief that SP is a man.
 
I can't find a link to this, but it's been mentioned that on the day of her return from Austin, she visited the FD. She had a fire hose in the back of her truck (probably for fitness exercises) so she probably knew someone there. Anyway, with all the talk of breeching tools SP had.....it sparked some thoughts. However, there doesn't appear to be any phone #s of that ilk on the SW, unless communication was way under the radar.

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No phone #s in the SW we have seen...maybe in others we have not.
 
I agree! I was going to suggest Batbrat watermark this excellent sleuthing before someone uses it and claims it as their own....

Totally - I suggest Batbrat put a big ol' watermark across the work!
 
The next "Bombshell" will be about Brat's wonderful video enhancement **without** credit to Brat or without mention of WS.

Sooooo predictable!
 
They had a search warrant for Missy's car that was released. Well I'm sure they would want to look at other info/evidence from her life. Such as a home computer or personal items that could hold clues. We never saw her home search warrants released so I would bet that if bare minimum there's a warrant for her home there are other sw's out there also.


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Would they need a SW for the home if BB volunteered consent search? IMHO~~if it was my loved one~~I would have just let LE in to search~~I would want the perp found and justice served, maybe I'm just naive~~IDK. But, I will say since I've been here at WS, I have become much more aware of my surroundings and don't just live in my little bubble anymore.
 
Very plausible and explains the timeline. It also better explains the 1st camper's motives. He/she waits in the rain for the door closest to be opened and for signs of class beginning.

My only issues are: why would they have different keys for different exterior doors? Why wouldn't the interaction be caught on tape?
IMO, the attack wan't caught on tape because it happened in the vestibule just outside of her truck.
I too believe she had to run around to the front entrance (probably with nothing in tow as it was raining) because that was the only place she had access to She then proceeded to the indoor vestibule just outside of her truck where she could unlock that door from the inside and haul in her stuff. It was during this time she was attacked. Off camera and while busy getting her stuff out of her truck.
It is also Jmo that the killer escaped through that vestibule door (which is why SP is not seen again.) I don't believe he/she exited the same way they entered.
The perp ran out the door where MB was parked, (all out of camera view) and turned left, and headed to the back of the building where the perp's car was and escaped well before Camper #1 arrived.



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Maybe so many of us go back and forth with perp being male or female because it's a male that identifies as a woman or vice versa.....

Or maybe it was because there were two perps. The fact that the height changed so dramatically AFTER the APD (5'2 to 5'7) went back to the crime scene and did a reenactment. This is purely my own opinion and something that I believe to have seen with the first video on the first day they released it. JMO and lots of speculation.


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Not that putting a logo on would prevent certain ones from stealing it. :rolleyes: But, at least if it ends up on national TV, it will have some sort of attribution.

Anyone's work is copyright protected from the moment of creation (logo or not). That said, if it is 'published' publicly (eg. in an online forum), there are some who will regard it as in the public domain. (For a fact, if you submit something for publication and are selling first rights, it cannot have appeared in print, even online, previously.)

All said, I agree that your time-intensive work ought to at least be credited to you if someone swipes it and uses it on national TV. Love what you did upthread to illustrate body frame under that SWAT gear...really helpful.
I'm so impressed with Batbrat's hard work. Amazing! I agree. Batbrat needs to protect the work. Wouldn't be surprised if we see it on TV Monday.

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Or maybe it was because there were two perps. The fact that the height changed so dramatically AFTER the APD (5'2 to 5'7) went back to the crime scene and did a reenactment. This is purely my own opinion and something that I believe to have seen with the first video on the first day they released it. JMO and lots of speculation.


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I think perp had some kind of help, but we only see 1 swatperp in the brief video shared publicly. After APD went back to do serious measurements, it was reported that they have a DETAILED description, but will not release that information. There is nothing detailed about the height range, which is all they disclosed. It does suggest a female, though. Lots of men and women are 5'7 but very few men are 5'2. JMO
 
Would they need a SW for the home if BB volunteered consent search? IMHO~~if it was my loved one~~I would have just let LE in to search~~I would want the perp found and justice served, maybe I'm just naive~~IDK. But, I will say since I've been here at WS, I have become much more aware of my surroundings and don't just live in my little bubble anymore.

A SW is needed because the person who allows a search voluntarily can later declare that it was not voluntary or that the search exceeded the parameters of the permission. Then of course, as you know, anything found during that search would be inadmissible in a court of law. From jurisprudence, a bad search is called a 'poisoned tree' and anything obtained during a bad search are the 'fruits of the poisoned tree' and therefore not admissible.
 
IMO, the attack wan't caught on tape because it happened in the vestibule just outside of her truck.
I too believe she had to run around to the front entrance (probably with nothing in tow as it was raining) because that was the only place she had access to She then proceeded to the indoor vestibule just outside of her truck where she could unlock that door from the inside and haul in her stuff. It was during this time she was attacked. Off camera and while busy getting her stuff out of her truck.
It is also Jmo that the killer escaped through that vestibule door (which is why SP is not seen again.) I don't believe he/she exited the same way they entered.
The perp ran out the door where MB was parked, (all out of camera view) and turned left, and headed to the back of the building where the perp's car was and escaped well before Camper #1 arrived.



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I agree and have posted this theory probably three times already. It makes the most sense of what we know.
 
I think perp had some kind of help, but we only see 1 swatperp in the brief video shared publicly. After APD went back to do serious measurements, it was reported that they have a DETAILED description, but will not release that information. There is nothing detailed about the height range, which is all they disclosed. It does suggest a female, though. Lots of men and women are 5'7 but very few men are 5'2. JMO

I'm not so sure about the height. I believe they know after they went back exactly how tall the perp is. I also think the 5'2 - 5'7 range may have been given to make the SP feel as if they were in the clear. Jmo. The number of red herrings that have been put out by LE lead me to believe they know exactly who it is. They are in my opinion just gathering all the info they need to seal his coffin. And if I am wrong about the height, which I could be, CW fits the height.


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Interesting! One thing I noticed is that the killer needed someone to confide in, share her 'reasoning' with, and if nothing else to have an emotional accomplice. I would think if SP is a woman scorned, there is a good chance she shared information with somone at some point. Even if the specific murder plot was not shared (as in this case), that someone would have an idea that she was upset with Missy whether it was for a real or perceived threat.

(Although I have always thought SP was female, that video animation is making me pause!)


All speculation and opinions.
 
I'm shocked there are so many threads for this case? 25 is a LOT when so little is publicly known:) ‎
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‎I haven't been following this story so forgive me if I violate specific posting (sleuthing vs speculative) guidelines. Is it okay for me to speculate, that, in my opinion the father in law walks like ‎the man dressed in SWAT? That's a very distinct sort of swag. It sent a chill up my very privately owned spine.‎
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It's often said that if there's not an arrest in the 'First 48' the chances of not solving a murder increase exponentially. It seems to me rarely does an arrest come within 48 hours when there's not an eye witness or someone looking to cut a deal. I don't think enough time has transpired to say the police are out of leads, or that this case won't be solved.‎
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My speculative opinion only.‎
 
Does anybody know if there have been more SW issued that haven't been released to the public? What determines if or when a SW is released to the public? TIA

JMHO, I think they do have some sealed. This was why I thought so at the time of this post: JMHO http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...T-gear-18-Apr-2016-12&p=12536361#post12536361

TITLE 1. CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
CHAPTER 18. SEARCH WARRANTS

Art. 18.01. SEARCH WARRANT. (a) A "search warrant" is a written order, issued by a magistrate and directed to a peace officer, commanding him to search for any property or thing and to seize the same and bring it before such magistrate or commanding him to search for and photograph a child and to deliver to the magistrate any of the film exposed pursuant to the order.
(b) No search warrant shall issue for any purpose in this state unless sufficient facts are first presented to satisfy the issuing magistrate that probable cause does in fact exist for its issuance. A sworn affidavit setting forth substantial facts establishing probable cause shall be filed in every instance in which a search warrant is requested.Except as provided by Article 18.011, the affidavit is public information if executed, and the magistrate's clerk shall make a copy of the affidavit available for public inspection in the clerk's office during normal business hours.
MORE at link http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/CR/htm/CR.18.htm

Art. 18.011. SEALING OF AFFIDAVIT. (a) An attorney representing the state in the prosecution of felonies may request a district judge or the judge of an appellate court to seal an affidavit presented under Article 18.01(b). The judge may order the affidavit sealed if the attorney establishes a compelling state interest in that:
(1) public disclosure of the affidavit would jeopardize the safety of a victim, witness, or confidential informant or cause the destruction of evidence; or
(2) the affidavit contains information obtained from a court-ordered wiretap that has not expired at the time the attorney representing the state requests the sealing of the affidavit.
(b) An order sealing an affidavit under this section expires on the 31st day after the date on which the search warrant for which the affidavit was presented is executed. After an original order sealing an affidavit is issued under this article, an attorney representing the state in the prosecution of felonies may request, and a judge may grant, before the 31st day after the date on which the search warrant for which the affidavit was presented is executed, on a new finding of compelling state interest, one 30-day extension of the original order.
(c) On the expiration of an order issued under Subsection (b) and any extension, the affidavit must be unsealed.
(d) An order issued under this section may not:
(1) prohibit the disclosure of information relating to the contents of a search warrant, the return of a search warrant, or the inventory of property taken pursuant to a search warrant; or
(2) affect the right of a defendant to discover the contents of an affidavit.
Added by Acts 2007, 80th Leg., R.S., Ch. 355 (S.B. 244), Sec. 2, eff. September 1, 2007. http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/CR/htm/CR.18.htm#18.011
 
IMO, the attack wan't caught on tape because it happened in the vestibule just outside of her truck.
I too believe she had to run around to the front entrance (probably with nothing in tow as it was raining) because that was the only place she had access to She then proceeded to the indoor vestibule just outside of her truck where she could unlock that door from the inside and haul in her stuff. It was during this time she was attacked. Off camera and while busy getting her stuff out of her truck.
It is also Jmo that the killer escaped through that vestibule door (which is why SP is not seen again.) I don't believe he/she exited the same way they entered.
The perp ran out the door where MB was parked, (all out of camera view) and turned left, and headed to the back of the building where the perp's car was and escaped well before Camper #1 arrived.



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Wasn't she found surrounded by glass? Was the glass vestibule broken?
 
I agree and have posted this theory probably three times already. It makes the most sense of what we know.
Yes. I have too. Unfortunately, I can't convince Ark Mimi of this theory or anyone else so I gave up.

It is, in my mind as well, the only explanation that makes logical sense.

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You're right BigCityAccountant, there could have been other scary messages that were deleted. Could this be why Missy wasn't herself for several weeks before the murder?
Respectfully BBM, they were able to recover some deleted messages but that is why they got the 2 different SW to get all the data available from LinkedIn and ATT.
 
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