TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #28

[rodee34]

I agree there estimates were off. I did my own analysis when they released the video.

Whose estimates were off? Thanks for helping!

 

[SandyQLS]

Respectfully BBM

MB started the CG camp at the Creekside CoC, Monday Aug 31, 2015, classes MWF 5am, so approx 7 1/2 months JMHO from her FB posts.

Missy Bevers
August 30, 2015 ·
It's HAPPENING TOMORROW MORNING @5:00am....Pre-View the new Camp Gladiator location @5:00am, Creekside Church of Christ, 5401 East Hwy 287....SEE YOU ALL THEN!! https://www.facebook.com/missy.bevers/posts/10207579173257298


Missy Bevers with XXXXXXXXXXXXX and 12 others.
August 31, 2015 · Ovilla, TX ·
WAY TO GO CG MIDLO!!! Welcome to Camp Gladiator all you AMAZING NEW CG CAMPERS.. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...&set=a.3571350162298.169611.1229322185&type=3

Missy Bevers Come on out for FREE this week, XXXXXXXXXXXXX...W,F @5:00am, Creekside Church of Christ
August 31, 2015 at 7:43am https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...0207585574217318&comment_tracking={"tn":"R9"}

Thank You! (I am saving your post this time.) Wow. So MB had been safe going to CoC at 5:00AM all those long months, but something changed, BB told her to be careful, and then BB left on his fishing trip anyway. The fishing trip was for a week or so? So if MB had lived, she would have taught the classes on WF, too. And with BB gone, the home was empty of any adult at those times, as well as MB being presumably alone in the master bedroom all those nights.

 

[Coco'sMommy]

I think I found the item SP carried out of the room in left hand. Could it be part of/cover of interior surveillance camera? (Sorry about the picture, but it is the best I could do, in finding a similar sized item that was correct shape, purpose and location.) Perhaps some of our more high tec, high resolution WS'ers can find & post a better shot. (Batbrat, Nin....IQ pal needs assistance on table #9?:crossfingers::crossfingers
btw, the one in the photo I posted is from a gun shop "set"....isn't that weird???

I think you've got it!

 

[rodee34]

I see a lot of speculation on the tool that the killer is carrying. It's a hammer.

What is this object in your opinion? This pic is a still shot taken from a video enhanced by NIN, one of our amazing photo enhancers.

 

[11frogs]

Does anyone find it strange that MB posted that she was going to bed early because she was not feeling well but BB doesn't mention anything about that when he talked to her twice?

Also so interesting to see that some are thinking there are at least 2 people involved . I don't believe second person came into church until SP got in the first blow or used a taser, etc. I posted a scenario a few posts back.

something interesting a friend said said to me. MB may have worked out a lot but that it did not make her capable of taking on someone. She may have even taken self defense classes from AT but no one knows how they will react until that times comes.

Still I think she didn't see it coming.

Does anyone know how tall BB is? In this picture he looks about 5'9 - 5'11 if she is 5'2?

 

[SandyQLS]

On Wednesday, April 20, MT spoke to reporters. at 00:58 MT states that her (Missy's) husband had told her "to be prepared". "Ya know, he had worried about something like that that early in the morning."

But when BB gave his first presser, after arriving home, he stated that he did NOT believe that Missy was targeted. BB later changed his mind.

I totally agree, this is a contradiction from his comments to his mother that he was worried about MB but then did not think she was targeted.

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Which also tends to contradict his actual behavior that he left for an out-of-state trip anyway, even though MT says he was worried about "something happening".

JMO PC occurs when there are too many contradictions, in some cases, maybe.

 

[rodee34]

Does anyone find it strange that MB posted that she was going to bed early because she was not feeling well but BB doesn't mention anything about that when he talked to her twice?

Also so interesting to see that some are thinking there are at least 2 people involved . I don't believe second person came into church until SP got in the first blow or used a taser, etc. I posted a scenario a few posts back.

something interesting a friend said said to me. MB may have worked out a lot but that it did not make her capable of taking on someone. She may have even taken self defense classes from AT but no one knows how they will react until that times comes.

Still I think she didn't see it coming.

Does anyone know how tall BB is? In this picture he looks about 5'9 - 5'11 if she is 5'2?

Honestly, I hadn't read that MB wasn't feeling well.. that's sad.

I don't think there were 2 people inside the church - more like someone in a getaway car... IF that. The more people that know about the murder, the more likely someone will squeal.

 

[11frogs]

Honestly, I hadn't read that MB wasn't feeling well.. that's sad.

I don't think there were 2 people inside the church - more like someone in a getaway car... IF that. The more people that know about the murder, the more likely someone will squeal.

it was on her FB page and she said going to bed early haven't been feeling well for a few days.

Jmo - I think this is why SP is so calm they are just a distraction and to enable the real killer to access the church away from the cameras. I can be totally wrong but I think it makes sense. Ok in my mind.

 

[SandyQLS]

IMO...
IF MB was acting differently, receiving odd LI messages, BB telling her to be careful in recent days before murder, I would assume she would have taken steps to reduce ANNOUNCING her early AM whereabouts.

FB has private groups you can create for alerting and communicating with members.

To me, that is a rational action to protect yourself.

NOT blaming MB whatsoever. Just maybe she wasn't as concerned as others may think.

Or she was one to put it all out there regardless.

IDK. Just thinking out loud. [emoji848]


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Good points. And she went ahead to the CoC as usual, nothing out of the ordinary. She could have hired an escort, asked another CG to meet her early, asked AT or another trainer to meet her there first to sort of clear the building as a pair before he went on to his own CG class. She could have told CG HQ that she was concerned for her safety and demanded some assistance or a change of some kind.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Does anyone find it strange that MB posted that she was going to bed early because she was not feeling well but BB doesn't mention anything about that when he talked to her twice?

Also so interesting to see that some are thinking there are at least 2 people involved . I don't believe second person came into church until SP got in the first blow or used a taser, etc. I posted a scenario a few posts back.

something interesting a friend said said to me. MB may have worked out a lot but that it did not make her capable of taking on someone. She may have even taken self defense classes from AT but no one knows how they will react until that times comes.

Still I think she didn't see it coming.

Does anyone know how tall BB is? In this picture he looks about 5'9 - 5'11 if she is 5'2?

Respectfully BBM. Do you have a link for where MB was not feeling well? I know there is an old fb post IIRC I even posted it here where she stated that the class was indoors and that she was going to bed as not feeling well. But that was not April 17. * Disclaimer I do realize that the April 17 fb post has been removed, but I have not seen anywhere that MB was not feeling well that night. TIA. JMHO


ETA LINK : My post re MB posting going inside Jan 3 and not feeling well http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...T-gear-18-Apr-2016-27&p=12617618#post12617618

Jan 3 2016 Class/Camp was posted that will be indoors ... JMHO was common practice to post prior night if was going to be indoors

Missy Bevers
January 3 · Ovilla, TX · (Sunday night 8:01 pm) https://www.facebook.com/missy.bevers/posts/10208364859538964
Camp tomorrow @5:00am indoors at Creekside Church of Christ and 9:00am at Midlothian Conference Center...Bring Your Weights!
I'm off to bed...been under the weather since last night. But, will see all of you bright & early!

 

[arkansasmimi]

Good points. And she went ahead to the CoC as usual, nothing out of the ordinary. She could have hired an escort, asked another CG to meet her early, asked AT or another trainer to meet her there first to sort of clear the building as a pair before he went on to his own CG class. She could have told CG HQ that she was concerned for her safety and demanded some assistance or a change of some kind.

Or had MPD check out the area if concerned. JMHO

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Newbie here...Im of the opinion that there is more than 1 SP in church and believe it is possible that LE was sending a msg. to a taller SP and this info would be very significant to taller SP.
MOO of course.

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[gliving]

Great point. He may have had a heightened sense, of being away and unable to help if she needed some help. Like, what if her car broke down or she ran out of gas, or if she overdid it in a class and broke a limb and had to go to the hospital, without him there to help her, stuff like that.

Oh my gosh, so the day before Missy is murdered, BB has a heightened sense of concern for her, even voicing it to his mother. Then the next day his worst fear ever comes true, he learns Missy has been murdered. I don't know what to think. Like... that is so unusual.

 

[TexasEx]

Wouldn't Missy have seen broken doors/glass either at the side or front entrance, or did SP break in elsewhere? If she did see signs of a burglary, why would she enter the church, or keep walking down the hallway?

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Hello everyone! Nebwie here! This is the first case I’ve ever followed religiously and I felt like it was time for a post since it’s been getting a lot quieter around here.

SP is moseying through the hall, not a care in the world. Why was SP so calm? In my opinion there was another individual in the church that night that we have not seen. Someone keeping watch… possibly even committing the murder. SP to me seems like an incredibly awkward young adult or teen.. maybe manipulated/coerced into helping a family member or close friend? My profiling may be way off... regardless, I still firmly believe there were 2 perps. I honestly don’t think any footage has been shown of the real mastermind/killer behind all this. The video experts they brought in were the best of the best. JMO, but there is no way they wouldn’t have been able to narrow the suspects height down to within an inch. That 5 inch range they gave us solidified my gut feeling. Again, all JMO!


Whoever was behind this murder planned it out and planned it out well. And I’ve begun to think SP’s costume wasn’t really a costume. I don’t believe SP is LE but maybe has access/connections to LE?


I know this has been talked about a few times but does anyone have any more information about MB’S connection to the FD?


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[arkansasmimi]

Wouldn't Missy have seen broken doors/glass either at the side or front entrance, or did SP break in elsewhere? If she did see signs of a burglary, why would she enter the church, or keep walking down the hallway?

Storming, very dark at 416am driving into the parking lot. Damage done on metal door the opposite side of the building than where she was parked and the double doors were at the rear and up some stairs and in a little covered inlet, would be hard to see those busted at that time of morning just driving by... We do not know what the area in the SW portion of the building looked like when she entered in at 418am. JMHO

 

[WannaBDetective]

This is such an informative post, I hope everyone has the chance to read it and let it sink in.

Not sure I remember correctly - someone correct me if not - but wasn't MB teaching this class MWF at 5:00AM at the CoC since January 2016? So that would be about 36 sessions in a row for 3 months up until the one where she was murdered. And MB had been safe all that time, and capable of taking care of herself, like any woman, even one who works odd hours of necessity. And yes, someone certainly knew she would be alone there, just briefly, a very tight timeframe, and that it was literally the only hour of the day she is ever alone except when otherwise driving her truck. It is almost miraculous that BB had thought to warn her of potential danger, but only right before she was murdered, not all along or several times over the last 3 months, or when she took that particular assignment - but just right before she was murdered.

What was someone saying about fairy tales on the last couple of pages... oh wait, I remember the post. Thanks.

Really Good point SandyQLS. She was safe 97% of the time and murdered only 3% of the sessions.

 

[WannaBDetective]

Or........He was checking up on her, suspicious what she might be doing while he was out of town, or.....making sure she was asleep so as not to be late for what was to happen the next am.....IMO

So he called her to make sure she was sleeping?

 

[WannaBDetective]

Does anyone find it strange that MB posted that she was going to bed early because she was not feeling well but BB doesn't mention anything about that when he talked to her twice?

Also so interesting to see that some are thinking there are at least 2 people involved . I don't believe second person came into church until SP got in the first blow or used a taser, etc. I posted a scenario a few posts back.

something interesting a friend said said to me. MB may have worked out a lot but that it did not make her capable of taking on someone. She may have even taken self defense classes from AT but no one knows how they will react until that times comes.

Still I think she didn't see it coming.

Does anyone know how tall BB is? In this picture he looks about 5'9 - 5'11 if she is 5'2?

MB's been put at 5'3" by many sources. I'd peg BB right around 5-10/5'11.

 

[WannaBDetective]

Oh my gosh, so the day before Missy is murdered, BB has a heightened sense of concern for her, even voicing it to his mother. Then the next day his worst fear ever comes true, he learns Missy has been murdered. I don't know what to think. Like... that is so unusual.

I know when I go out of town I have a heightened sense of concern over my wife and children. I think that's natural.

But analyzing the logic here. If BB WAS complicit in the planning or orchestration of this murder. Wouldn't he NOT heads her up to be more cautious, suspicious, et al.