TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #29

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No new leads :(
Anyone think LE is any closer to an arrest?

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In my opinion they probably know who the killer is or have a very good idea of who the killer is but simply don't have enough evidence. And I think the killer probably has an attorney and isn't cooperating with law enforcement.
 
I know you said that you weren't picking on me, but just to be clear, I did state that it appears MB was killed with a hammer/blunt object. I didn't specify that it was a hammer. However, LE did say the puncture wounds were consistent with the tools we have seen being carried in the video. To my knowledge we have only seen a hammer and the other unidentified object. Whether the puncture wounds were caused by the hammer or the other unidentified object matters very little to me in the gruesomeness of the crime. Now if it those puncture wounds are actually gunshot wounds.....

You are absolutely correct that those tools may not have been the murder weapon. I concur that gunshot wounds are definitely a possible COD. However based on what has been released, I think that the murder was gruesome. I also think that despite the weapon that actually killed MB we will eventfully find out that some of these wounds indicate overkill. JMO

ETA - You are correct that wounds "consistent with" the tools seen being carried through the church does not mean that her fatal wounds were caused by those tools.

The lack of respect for the loss of mb by bb and rb is striking. Jokes, vacays, funny memes, pictures. Very odd IMO

You said it, Bro!
 
Well just from following WS since HG's case (RIP, Hanna) I will share a humble observation- remember the beautiful Doctor, TS, from FL who was killed- her husband refused to say 1 word, and rather obnoxiously, I might add. Well, he is up for the death penalty as we speak. Hard to represent human nature that easily I am afraid. Your experience is appreciated but nothing is black and white. IMO


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Must be the 10% lol. Respect your opinion. I think profiles are great. Most fit in a category. But there are those oddballs for sure.
 
Hell, no. They don't want any of us coming up with a perp, when they have no clue. That is why they are not releasing any new info. They have no clue.
 
I have read every post on every thread on this MB case and I have never seen that at all. It has been mentioned that MB's family of origin has not spoken to the press, but it was never posted as a criticism. You say MB's family has been criticized "a number of times" - do you have a link or at least a certain thread for this assertion? Thank in advance.

It took me all of 30 seconds to pick a random old thread and find an example. Thread 16, post 47:

"Just curious....I have been reading 2 threads worth for days and I have never once seen any details about MB's family...her mom, dad, siblings,cousins, etc. Does she not have any that are still around??? All I hear and read about are the in-laws.. I would think if her parents or sibling are alive, they would have some interest and interviews about this. Does anyone know ??? thia"

Now you're probably going to say "well that isn't really critical"... but it is. Obviously MB has plenty of family still around as any sleuther knows after a few moments of work. So that answered the OP's question, leaving the accusation that if the family IS alive, they would "have some interest and interviews". Meaning, apparently they aren't interested.

Veiled criticism is still criticism.
 
All soooooo.... Strange. Someone knows something to unravel this.
 
I wish we had a thread for MB that could divide out guilt/innocence among family members. Would be helpful especially since there is no new information to sleuth. I may be totally wrong and this is no game- but I do not have any suspicion of BB and I watched all the videos and read all the pressers. And in fact, per the 5/20/16 press conference that Gabriel transcribed for us- LE stated that a 3D image that circulated has not been helpful (believe the source was Twitter) Wonder which image they are referring to. Anyway, here's to more information so we don't become divided. Last I looked we were all a team for MB.


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"Respectfully" you are wrong. As I already explained, "affidavit" and "search warrant" are two separate things. A SW itself may not be kept secret. An affidavit (which would be used as background justification for a SW and recited within it) may be kept secret for a period of time, per 18.011. If any other SW exists, we would have the ability to know of it and access to read it (absent any 18.011 portion, if any such portion existed).

Respectfully, I again ask for a link or are we just assume this is your opinion. I have read and looked and no where do I find what you are stating to be read and believed as a fact. No disrespect or trying to be snarky, but if it is indeed a fact, I would appreciate knowing it as such. Thanks >
A SW itself may not be kept secret.



Unless any of the documents that were sent to the AG May 3 (From Mr Pool April 20 request and Ms. Lockwood April 29 request which we do not know what they were) and any of those were deemed that did not have to be released... or sealed I agree. JMHO, You comment makes my point if not sealed, if any more exist then we would see them.
If any other SW exists, we would have the ability to know of it and access to read it (absent any 18.011 portion, if any such portion existed)
 
** I also know there are various kinds of Warrants, I am speaking of in this case at hand and of the possibility of Sealed records.** JMHO, we did not know what any of the documents until the May 3 filing of the SW that were filed that date. Not sure if had to do with the filing that date asking for an Opinion from the AG office or not. Hard to think those are the only SW Orders that have been issued in this case. JMHO Really doesn't matter if any we will see when we see. ... having said that I will say this and be done. See it when we see it.

First off, I DO realize that an APPLICATION AND AFFIDAVIT IN SUPPORT OF EVIDENTIARY SEARCH WARRANT and the actual EVIDENTIARY SEARCH WARRANT (ORDER) are 2 different Documents. I also know that you can not have an Evidentiary Search Warrant -ORDER without supporting documentation. CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE TITLE 1. CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE CHAPTER 18. SEARCH WARRANTS says so. http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/CR/htm/CR.18.htm

If you look at any of the SW that have been released so far in this case, each SW ORDER incorporates/shows that the AFFIDAVIT is attached and therefore make this part of the SW. What would be the purpose of sealing the Page where the Judge signs the ORDER, (which he also signed all the other pages too) if sealing was due to one of the options given in that Art. 18.011. SEALING OF AFFIDAVIT?

EVIDENTIARY SEARCH WARRANT - using the ATT Target Number as an example. If this was something that MPD needed sealed for any of the reasons allowed in Art. 18.011. SEALING OF AFFIDAVIT, but as some seem to think only means the Affidavit, not the actual complete SW -Order (which is complete with the supporting documentation that the SW Order states is ATTACHED) :thinking: How would Sealing the Affidavit, yet Publishing the SW ORDER help? The SW ORDER has all the information requested. Taken directly from the Affidavit. That would make absolutely no sense, and defeats the whole purpose JMH

ATT Search Warrant Order.JPG Document can be found on first page or in the Media Thread http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...T-gear-18-Apr-2016-29&p=12647631#post12647631

ANALYSIS http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/80R/analysis/pdf/SB00244H.pdf
Senate Bill 244 provides that an attorney representing the state in the prosecution of felonies is
allowed to request a district judge or the judge of an appellate court to seal an affidavit presented
under Article 18.01(b), Code of Criminal Procedure. The judge is allowed to order the affidavit
sealed if the attorney establishes a compelling state interest in that the public disclosure of the
affidavit would jeopardize the safety of a victim, witness, or confidential informant or cause the
destruction of evidence, or that the affidavit contains information obtained from a court-ordered
wire-tap that has not expired at the time the state’s attorney requests the sealing of the affidavit.
The bill provides that an order sealing the affidavit expires on the 31st day after the date on which
the search warrant for which the affidavit was presented is executed, but the state’s attorney may
request and a judge may grant one 30-day extension of the original order if the request is made
before the first order expires and upon a new finding of compelling state interest. On the
expiration of either the original order or an extension, the bill states that the affidavit must be
unsealed.
S.B. 244 also provides that an order to seal an affidavit may not prohibit the disclosure of
information relating to the contents of a search warrant, the return of a search warrant, or the
inventory of property taken pursuant to a search warrant, or affect the right of a defendant to
discover the contents of an affidavit.
The bill amends Article 18.01(b), Code of Criminal Procedure, to except as provided by Article
18.011, Code of Criminal Procedure, that the affidavit is public information if executed.
Makes application of Article 18.01(b), Code of Criminal Procedure, as amended by this Act,
prospective.
 
Must be the 10% lol. Respect your opinion. I think profiles are great. Most fit in a category. But there are those oddballs for sure.

Lol- After posting I thought the same thing- I am speaking to murrayforlife's 10% life experience.


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Arkansasmimi- are there any return SW that you are aware of? Thanks.


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I think there were possible a few individuals that wanted MB dead. Certainly a few whose reaction does not match grief.The plan was created to have set in stone alibis fora few- with an airtight plan for the murderer with identity concealment. Many planned murders involve a group.
I am think a combo deal happened- my guess a tri-angle. The group involved had different reasons for wanting her murdered. But one stepped up for the kill- maybe got played by the group to execute. JMHO
 
Maybe MB side the family chooses to remain quite, possibly for reasons they have suspicion of the SwatPerp. I hope if the case starts to go cold, they will come forward with some information and ask for help from the public. Pleas from her side of the family may generate possible suspect/s to come forward. JMO

I keep thinking of the Morgan Farrington case that went cold until the Perp killed again. 😭

Prayers for the Missy Bevers family
 
Great post, Arkansasmimi!

To me, Missy's mom is a silent hero, and an incredible woman of character. I don't know her; however, i admire her. This lady just lost her precious daughter, and is now taking care of her beautiful granddaughters, without feeling the need to court the media, or inject herself into anything that's going on. May she have peace and special blessings with her granddaughters during this time.
 
Respectfully, I again ask for a link or are we just assume this is your opinion. I have read and looked and no where do I find what you are stating to be read and believed as a fact. No disrespect or trying to be snarky, but if it is indeed a fact, I would appreciate knowing it as such. Thanks >
SteveS is correct and you are correct too, IMHO. He says a SW may not be kept secret, which is true. You can read the Texas rules of criminal procedure chapter 18 regarding search warrants and you will not find anywhere in there a provision for keeping a SW secret. And in fact, Article 18.011(d)(1) says specifically that an order issued under this section (talking about the sealing of an affidavit) may NOT prohibit the disclosure of information about the SW. We know that the affidavits in the MB case have not been sealed - they've just been withheld from release which isn't the same thing (no judge's order). But if 18.011(d)(1) applies to a sealed affidavit, it must apply to an unsealed affidavit as well.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/CR/htm/CR.18.htm
http://law.onecle.com/texas/criminal-procedure/18.011.html

HOWEVER... just because we have "the ability to know of it" (the SW) doesn't mean we DO know of it, so that is where YOU are right and Steve is incorrect, as I see it. We know of the previous search warrants because MPD made us aware of them. But if they chose not to tell the public or the news media that they had gotten additional SWs, then there's the possibility that no one has gone looking yet. The local media isn't exactly aggressive...
 
Great post, Arkansasmimi!

To me, Missy's mom is a silent hero, and an incredible woman of character. I don't know her; however, i admire her. This lady just lost her precious daughter, and is now taking care of her beautiful granddaughters, without feeling the need to court the media, or inject herself into anything that's going on. May she have peace and special blessings with her granddaughters during this time.

I remember in previous threads we learned she had also lost her husband, Missy's father, last year. We all felt so concerned for her. I posted I was surprised she could even get out of bed with such a loss.

Agree with your opinion of ArkansasMimi. She's an amazing poster. We are lucky to have her here.
 
I definitely agree with you, giving, on both counts! Missy's mom has been through so much, and she truly seems to be an amazing woman of strength, compassion, and love. Actions speak so much louder than words!
 
More MIL comments knocking MB ..."Tucker's letter seems to address the recent alleged revelations about the Bevers's marriage, reading, "I assume you were jumping up and down when the news [broke] about her life [being] not as perfect as a lot of people thought. Well, let me tell you a little secret you may not comprehend. No, she wasn't perfect and she never claimed to be. "But, the secret is, there is something called 'agape' love. Meaning, there really is a love you have, that no matter what you have done in the past or present, you still love them! "

So, MIL's letter to MB murderer stating let me tell you a secret- MB not perfect as a lot of people thought. Red flag! And MB did "things" in past and present but is still loved. Red Flag!

Who knocks a dead woman?! Lots of bitterness here. Red flags!!!!

This reads as if MT thinks the person who killed Missy did so because he/she was jealous of Missy, and MT was trying to shove it in her face that even dead, Missy was still better than him/her.

So in her opinion, jealousy was the motive, not an affair or money. Interesting...
 
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