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Per CNN, the gunman bought the weapons used in the massacre on his 18th birthday.
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Also mentioned in an interview with Senator Gutierrez that the grandmother has not died, that she’s holding on. I suppose that’s moment to moment and subject to change.18 children dead, three adults dead. Just reported on CNN per Texas Rangers
Does anyone know why they scrub it? To prevent copycats or?Yes, his Instagram has disappeared but someone on another forum captured a screenshot of Ramos. There are a few other pictures of him floating around. At least there were a few minutes ago. There seems to be an effort to scrub the internet. The press conference said practically nothing. It was over in about two minutes time.
I know we will learn more as this horror unfolds but as reported killer murdered his Grandmother. I wonder if he lived with her. Pondering here.....
That's what I was thinking too, that his grandmother was most likely responsible for him. How sad.
I’ve read it’s standard protocol for the FBI to scrub the perp‘s social media quickly, to avoid copycat pages and misinformation. I do believe that.
MOO, I respectfully disagree. Mass killers are mentally ill. I'll go further and state my belief that there are almost always red flags all over the place before a mass killer commits the killing. Family, friends, people on social media that see disturbing posts and do nothing.
BBM Thank you!!The desire to plan and carryout the execution of random children is to any reasonable person mentally ill. That scholarly psychology doesn't recognize that is unforgivable and devalues that entire field of study. It should be its own category.
Most people understand that not all forms of mental illness lead to violence and not all violence is committed by mentally ill people. And they understand that the vast majority of people with mental illness will never be violent. Sane people snap, sane people do bad things all the time.
However, in the very specific case where a person plans to kill innocent unrelated people in cold blood and then can actually do it, there is definitely something wrong with the working of that person's brain. There were definitely warning signs and we need to be realistic and figure this out.
I am telling you that as a scholar and a Dr.... 100% without a doubt there is something wrong with that person.
You need both more access to firearms, and background mental illness.We can't know whether mental illness was at play here, but only 25% of mass shooters have some form of mental illness (ranging from mild to severe). IMO these mass shootings generally can't be blamed on mental illness, but more so the accessibility of firearms. After all, many countries have higher rates of mental illness compared to the US but they don't have mass shootings on an every-other-day basis.
Mental Illness, Mass Shootings, and the Future of... : Harvard Review of Psychiatry
y diagnosable psychopathology in isolated “lone wolf” individuals. The destructive motivations must be situated, instead, within larger social structures and cultural scripts. Second, mental health professionals and scholars must carefully scrutinize any apparent correlation of violence with...journals.lww.com
Or, filled with evil.Perfectly sane people murder every single day.Some people are just filled with hate.With easy access to guns this will continue to happen.
I had an old article about this topic but can’t locate it now. But yes, in part, it was to prevent people from copying the page, editing, then reposting it, pretending they were the perp.Does anyone know why they scrub it? To prevent copycats or?