UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #2

[AM12]

Can we say where McL cctv was from? I found it very useful plotting that in above map

just outside his house across the road at a bus shelter

 

[Crestnut]

Hi another first poster but been following loads on here. Wondering what everyone's opinions are on why did he seemingly carry alesha to the shoreline ?
Could someone who is good with maps or local help me out with distance from shoreline to where alesha was found please as I cannot understand why he was carrying her around

 

[Truthseeker777]

Hi another first poster but been following loads on here. Wondering what everyone's opinions are on why did he seemingly carry alesha to the shoreline ?
Could someone who is good with maps or local help me out with distance from shoreline to where alesha was found please as I cannot understand why he was carrying her around

I am still trying to find out precisely where her body was found but nobody seems to know

 

[LittleMystery]

I cant understand why the police have not shut his Y.T channel down, the trampoline clip gives so much away and the channel grows daily because of all the media attention, does anyone know why it has not been shut down

LOL two truthseekers here. I initially thought someone was speaking to themself.

It depends entirely on YouTube policy. Facebook, for example, tends to be closed down quicker because they are more proactive at working with the police and deactivating certain accounts whether criminals or switching deceased to ‘In Memory of’ pages.

YouTube is a Google subsidiary so their policies differ and they could be less cooperative depending on what legislation they come under. There is a dedicated department within the Metropolitan police whose role is to flag incriminating videos on YouTube and even then only a percentage of them are deleted. I read an article recently that said it was taking them up to 2 and a half years to get some removed. I can also vouch for that as I work with Google and their subsidiaries regularly and their process is slooowwww.

In addition to that, it’s unlikely Police Scotland have the resources to constantly follow-up with YouTube.

 

[truthseeker1975]

Hi another first poster but been following loads on here. Wondering what everyone's opinions are on why did he seemingly carry alesha to the shoreline ?
Could someone who is good with maps or local help me out with distance from shoreline to where alesha was found please as I cannot understand why he was carrying her around

He might have taken her there and committed crime, however you should realise that if you put anything in the sea in that area it faces towards the mainland so the sea in that area is more like a lake most of the time, where she was found was wasteland overgrown in the summer, he might have left her there thinking she would not be found until he could cover his tracks further and get back to her, but remember he was arrested quite quickly and did not get the chance

 

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[Tortoise]

Hi another first poster but been following loads on here. Wondering what everyone's opinions are on why did he seemingly carry alesha to the shoreline ?
Could someone who is good with maps or local help me out with distance from shoreline to where alesha was found please as I cannot understand why he was carrying her around

Hi and welcome.

I have been wondering the same thing and I can only think the route was to avoid walking back past his house with Alesha, perhaps it was the long way of getting to the woods. Same for walking at a distance from the pavements, giving him what he thought was too far a range to be seen by anyone looking out or on cctv cameras. The problem is it does tend to show complete awareness and so I'm not sure he was really that drunk at that time.

 

[Taskforce88]

I am still trying to find out precisely where her body was found but nobody seems to know

Location is shown in a photo here where the policeman is guarding

Teenage boy, 16, accused of Alesha MacPhail's murder shared Snapchat selfie | Daily Mail Online

 

[AM12]

Hi and welcome.

I have been wondering the same thing and I can only think the route was to avoid walking back past his house with Alesha, perhaps it was the long way of getting to the woods. Same for walking at a distance from the pavements, giving him what he thought was too far a range to be seen by anyone looking out or on cctv cameras. The problem is it does tend to show complete awareness and so I'm not sure he was really that drunk at that time.

Given he (allegedly to be politically correct) had abducted a child the most discreet way of travelling would be along the shore as it is away from houses

 

[bronzepurple]

Hi another first poster but been following loads on here. Wondering what everyone's opinions are on why did he seemingly carry alesha to the shoreline ?
Could someone who is good with maps or local help me out with distance from shoreline to where alesha was found please as I cannot understand why he was carrying her around

The shore runs parallel to the road and it would have less chance of anyone seeing him carrying her along it - as opposed to the road which goes past a long row of houses, not to mention a corner shop which potentially could have a security camera outside. I live in Rothesay and the chances are at this time in the morning there would still be one or two drunk people walking around the streets, so I assume he knew the chances of someone seeing him would be lesser if he ran along the beach instead.

 

[Alyce]

Given he (allegedly to be politically correct) had abducted a child the most discreet way of travelling would be along the shore as it is away from houses

Plus there might be a car or two on the main road, even at that time in the morning and he would stand out.

 

[Kikixxxx]

A lot of rational thinking for someone who had drank a bottle of wine and a full bottle of 20/20...

 

[bronzepurple]

He might have taken her there and committed crime, however you should realise that if you put anything in the sea in that area it faces towards the mainland so the sea in that area is more like a lake most of the time, where she was found was wasteland overgrown in the summer, he might have left her there thinking she would not be found until he could cover his tracks further and get back to her, but remember he was arrested quite quickly and did not get the chance

maybe....but where he allegedly hid her is somewhere that many dog walkers frequent...so I can't imagine her being left for very long without someone finding her..

 

[truthseeker1975]

The shore runs parallel to the road and it would have less chance of anyone seeing him carrying her along it - as opposed to the road which goes past a long row of houses, not to mention a corner shop which potentially could have a security camera outside. I live in Rothesay and the chances are at this time in the morning there would still be one or two drunk people walking around the streets, so I assume he knew the chances of someone seeing him would be lesser if he ran along the beach instead.

Theres even a cctv camara that covers a side road between the beach and high road, it covers a boat on a trailer, he would have known where obvious cctv was, but there are lots of side roads to get from the beach to where she was found

 

[Tortoise]

Theres even a cctv camara that covers a side road between the beach and high road, it covers a boat on a trailer, he would have known where obvious cctv was, but there are lots of side roads to get from the beach to where she was found

Maybe that's why he put a hoodie on, to hide his face from cameras while he had Alesha.

 

[Truthseeker777]

Location is shown in a photo here where the policeman is guarding

Teenage boy, 16, accused of Alesha MacPhail's murder shared Snapchat selfie | Daily Mail Online

and where precisely is that?

 

[Truthseeker777]

Maybe that's why he put a hoodie on, to hide his face from cameras while he had Alesha.

Nevermind cameras, there are literally hundreds of windows overlooking the suggested route the killer took

 

[Kikixxxx]

Nevermind cameras, there are literally hundreds of windows overlooking the suggested route the killer took

Yeah but at 2.30am on Sunday night I doubt many people would have been looking out..

 

[Truthseeker777]

Yeah but at 2.30am on Sunday night I doubt many people would have been looking out..

Still...incredibly risky

 

[bronzepurple]

Still...incredibly risky

It's the kind of place where someone is always twitching their curtains, so I'm shocked no one at all saw him and it was only cctv footage that caught his movements.