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Honestly I assumed the police wouldn't make any developments in this case, it felt very cold at this point. So even this bit of news as shocked me, I just hope Andrew's family can get some answers eventually.Those of you who are “shocked” and “didn’t expect this” - why?
Is it because you assumed he’d left of his own accord or because you didn’t think the police would ever catch anyone?
I’ve always expected this day to come. Hopefully now his family can get justice and closure (not just his dad but his mum and sister too, who always seem to get forgotten).
Seems plausible, though presumably the police would easily be able to track usage if he'd had a contract phone. Can the police trace calls on pay-as-you-go phones? I'm not sure...It’s mentioned previously that Andrew had “lost 2 mobile phones” in the past. Could he have lied and kept one to secretly communicate with someone?
I want to think that we would never have heard of these arrests unless there is something to it.
This is how I feel too. There's been nothing about Andrew's case for so long now that it would be strange if it turned out to have nothing to do with him.I want to think that we would never have heard of these arrests unless there is something to it.
Those of you who are “shocked” and “didn’t expect this” - why?
Is it because you assumed he’d left of his own accord or because you didn’t think the police would ever catch anyone?
Those of you who are “shocked” and “didn’t expect this” - why?
Is it because you assumed he’d left of his own accord or because you didn’t think the police would ever catch anyone?
I’ve always expected this day to come. Hopefully now his family can get justice and closure (not just his dad but his mum and sister too, who always seem to get forgotten).
My mind doesn't want to believe the harsh truth of it all.
on the other hand it would mean Andrew met an incredibly grim fate when he went to London and that's not something any parent should have to think about.
Released Under Investigation means that, following arrest, the police need to carry out further investigative work, namely to make enquiries, before they can present your case to the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS).
Is Released Under Investigation the same as Bail?
In short, no. Released Under Investigation was introduced to the policing system to allow police more time to carry out detailed investigations without the restrictions of the 28-day limit enforced by bail.
New provisions came into force under the Policing and Crime Act 2017 stating that a suspect should only be released on Police bail if it is necessary and proportionate.
If an investigation is ongoing but the Police are unable to justify the imposition of bail, defendants are released under investigation (RUI). This means that there is no requirement to return to a police station at a future date, nor are you subject to any bail conditions.
Should any further evidence come to light, you may be re-arrested or invited back to the Police station on a voluntary basis for a further interview.
Being released under investigation means that someone is suspected of a criminal offence and that the investigation into their alleged criminal activity is ongoing. They may have been arrested, but they have not been charged, nor has their case been passed to the Crown Prosecution Service. However, they are not out of the woods, because the police are still suspicious that they might have committed a criminal offence.
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Indeed, RUI is often perceived, to the detriment of both alleged suspects and alleged victims, to be a pending tray for more complex cases, allowing overstretched detectives to tackle simpler cases with an easier prospect of conviction, which is a very unsatisfactory state of affairs.
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To paint a picture, typically what happens is that someone is interviewed under caution by the police, but there are not sufficient grounds to charge them. However, the police do not want to dismiss that person as a suspect just yet; instead, they want more time to make their inquiries, before deciding whether or not to refer the person’s case to the Crown Prosecution Service. The police therefore choose to release the person under investigation, which allows the person to leave the police station, but the police can still seize their personal property as evidence.
The person will be told about the outcome of the investigation at some point in the future. That creates a great deal of uncertainty, because they do not know if the police will eventually charge them or drop the case against them. To make matters worse, the investigation process has no maximum time limit, which is absolutely ridiculous. It means that the person could be kept waiting for weeks, months or even years before discovering their fate.
Mine doesn't either.
And maybe this isn't it. I mean they let the POIs go, at least for now.
After 15 years you don’t just arrest people randomly. LE obviously have something to suggest they are involved.