UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #1

[suzyjackson]

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Police confirm that they still haven't found Corrie's mobile phone after searching the bin lorry (Nokia Lumia)


https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/new...g-fife-servicemans-phone-search-unsuccessful/

That's odd, it's not clear to me exactly what they are saying, now they say it wasn't in a bin lorry, I don't understand.

The article raises more question than it answers imo

If we assume the phone did move per the pings then how did it move and why did they think it was in a bin lorry in the first place? Could it be that Corrie somehow hitched a lift on the lorry without the crew noticing or was the phone in a vehicle travelling behind or in front of the lorry.

All weirdly puzzling to me

 

[CarrieJ]

That's odd, it's not clear to me exactly what they are saying, now they say it wasn't in a bin lorry, I don't understand.

The article raises more question than it answers imo

If we assume the phone did move per the pings then how did it move and why did they think it was in a bin lorry in the first place? Could it be that Corrie somehow hitched a lift on the lorry without the crew noticing or was the phone in a vehicle travelling behind or in front of the lorry.

All weirdly puzzling to me

Could it have been in the pocket of one of the dustbin operatives?

 

[OrlandoJames]

Could it have been in the pocket of one of the dustbin operatives?

Possibly, given that the bin men would have been around very early on the Saturday morning and one of them may have found the phone if Corrie had dropped it or somebody stole it and then discarded it.

 

[mrazda71]

Could it have been in the pocket of one of the dustbin operatives?

I wondered that too ... if you'd found it on the street or in a bin you might think 'I'll keep hold of this' then when you realise it belongs to a man who's been missing for a week ...


I had a quick look at Skiboo's map, didn't see much water along his prospective route and as he'd been doing this drunken walk for 3 years, I can't imagine him wandering too far from his normal path.

Bit sick of seeing the 'he's been kidnapped by ISIS and could be in Syria by now and all we see on the news is Kardashian getting robbed' ...

 

[suzyjackson]

Could it have been in the pocket of one of the dustbin operatives?

I didn't think of that, that would definitely be a possibility, I hope the police have fully questioned everyone who was on the bin lorry.

I'm sure it must happen that bin men take valuable items they find from time to time, in this case someone might not want to admit to picking up the phone, that would be awful

 

[Edinlass]

I really don't understand why they went for the bin theory. He could have travelled in a car, or the phone could of by someone who possibly found it, and travelled the same route as the bin lorry. Very puzzling TBH.

We are getting the most limited information in this I feel, the CCTV shown can't be the ONLY CCTV they have.

What an absolute nightmare for his family. Hope he is found safe and sound.

 

[eucalyptuz]

I think the police are trying to make sense of the ping data from a phone that is by now most probably dead. On the 24th of Sept, Corrie has his phone and it's pinging around Bury St Edmunds on his night out. When was the missing person alarm first raised? Probably not until late Sunday early Monday? By then most phones will have gone flat and no longer emitting pings. Perhaps the police traced the last ping to a Rubbish Dumb in Barton Mills - There is a regional one just outside the town called Mildenhall Household Waste Recycling Centre. I think that the police were able to ascertain that the phone's journey coincided with the rubbish truck's up until the phone went flat. The phone could now be buried under tonnes of trash and no longer emitting any kind of signal...

 

[Purplepixii]

Couple of pieces of info in this article stand out to me: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-37541137?SThisFB

1/ Last spotted on CCTV walking alone and eating fast food in Bury St Edmunds at 03:20 BST on 24 September

2/ CCTV indicated Mr Mckeague, who was out with RAF colleagues, stopped for a nap in a doorway before getting up and moving on.

3/ The phone has not been used since it was pinpointed to the location, which is about 10 miles (16km) from Bury.

4/ Police said he could have been in the area of Mildenhall between 04:30 and 08:00 on the Saturday.


So if I'm right, the only CCTV footage that I've seen (also on the above link) confirms statement 1. That means that there has to be CCTV we haven't yet seen for statement 2 to be correct. Statement 3 is in reference to the bin lorry route but where is the evidence for statement 4 from?

I have no doubt that the police have far more information than the general public is privy to. I hope Corrie is safe & alive somewhere but deep down I think that would be a miracle

 

[MelmothTheLost]

How can they confirm that there is no terrorism involved when they have literally no idea what happened?

It's possible that the security service has said there was no online "chatter" about the matter in the Muslim chatrooms etc that are monitored.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

1/ Last spotted on CCTV walking alone and eating fast food in Bury St Edmunds at 03:20 BST on 24 September

2/ CCTV indicated Mr Mckeague, who was out with RAF colleagues, stopped for a nap in a doorway before getting up and moving on.

So if I'm right, the only CCTV footage that I've seen (also on the above link) confirms statement 1. That means that there has to be CCTV we haven't yet seen for statement 2 to be correct. Statement 3 is in reference to the bin lorry route but where is the evidence for statement 4 from?

2 could have been before 1. They've said that the images of him shown on TV were the last sighting so it's very possible that he kipped in the doorway before then, woke up and got some chips on his way home.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

I think the police are trying to make sense of the ping data from a phone that is by now most probably dead. On the 24th of Sept, Corrie has his phone and it's pinging around Bury St Edmunds on his night out. When was the missing person alarm first raised? Probably not until late Sunday early Monday? By then most phones will have gone flat and no longer emitting pings.

Not if he had a installed battery saver app. I used to have to recharge my Galaxy S5 every night, but now it lasts 4 or 5 days with only light use.

 

[mrazda71]

It's possible that the security service has said there was no online "chatter" about the matter in the Muslim chatrooms etc that are monitored.

Because of course, there's only one type of terrorist and that's Muslim! [emoji35]

 

[suzyjackson]

Couple of pieces of info in this article stand out to me: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-37541137?SThisFB

1/ Last spotted on CCTV walking alone and eating fast food in Bury St Edmunds at 03:20 BST on 24 September

2/ CCTV indicated Mr Mckeague, who was out with RAF colleagues, stopped for a nap in a doorway before getting up and moving on.

3/ The phone has not been used since it was pinpointed to the location, which is about 10 miles (16km) from Bury.

4/ Police said he could have been in the area of Mildenhall between 04:30 and 08:00 on the Saturday.


So if I'm right, the only CCTV footage that I've seen (also on the above link) confirms statement 1. That means that there has to be CCTV we haven't yet seen for statement 2 to be correct. Statement 3 is in reference to the bin lorry route but where is the evidence for statement 4 from?

I have no doubt that the police have far more information than the general public is privy to. I hope Corrie is safe & alive somewhere but deep down I think that would be a miracle

2 could have been before 1. They've said that the images of him shown on TV were the last sighting so it's very possible that he kipped in the doorway before then, woke up and got some chips on his way home.

I think 2 MUST have been before 1 or the CCTV of him walking away from the doorway would be the last sighting

Why do the police think 4?

The whole thing is baffling, if they want to find Corrie they need to be giving out much more info, where did he go after the eating and walking CCTV cuts off, why do they think he was near Mildenhall, why as late as 8am. If they can place him there in the morning it becomes less likely that he met with an accident in the dark so why were they searching the ditches the other day.

If I was his Mum I would not be happy at all with the lack of information which makes me think that she knows the answers to these questions and is going along with the radio silence for some reason which circles us back to a kidnap yet the police have ruled this out

 

[mrazda71]

I think 2 MUST have been before 1 or the CCTV of him walking away from the doorway would be the last sighting

Why do the police think 4?

The whole thing is baffling, if they want to find Corrie they need to be giving out much more info, where did he go after the eating and walking CCTV cuts off, why do they think he was near Mildenhall, why as late as 8am. If they can place him there in the morning it becomes less likely that he met with an accident in the dark so why were they searching the ditches the other day.

If I was his Mum I would not be happy at all with the lack of information which makes me think that she knows the answers to these questions and is going along with the radio silence for some reason which circles us back to a kidnap yet the police have ruled this out

I don't think kidnap is as likely as AWOL and they'd want to keep that quiet too ... if it wasn't for the alleged attempted kidnap nearby then kidnap wouldn't be high on the list scenarios at all.

 

[jslk]

http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/lead_pol...ial_Icon&utm_campaign=in_article_social_icons

"CCTV images show him to have been outside The Grapes public house at around 3.20am.

Officers believe him to have briefly slept in a doorway before moving on.

At yesterday’s press conference it was said it was not unusual for Corrie to lay down and sleep somewhere after a night out.

However, on this occasion he has not been seen since."

This specifies that the doorway nap was AFTER the sighting on cctv. Still unclear why police believe he did this. There must be more footage or eyewitness?

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[suzyjackson]

I don't think kidnap is as likely as AWOL and they'd want to keep that quiet too ... if it wasn't for the alleged attempted kidnap nearby then kidnap wouldn't be high on the list scenarios at all.

AWOL would put his family in a really difficult position imo, they want him to be found but presumably being found would result in serious consequences.

I hope he isn't choosing to put his poor mother through the anguish of not knowing what's happened to him.

 

[suzyjackson]

http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/lead_pol...ial_Icon&utm_campaign=in_article_social_icons

"CCTV images show him to have been outside The Grapes public house at around 3.20am.

Officers believe him to have briefly slept in a doorway before moving on.

At yesterday’s press conference it was said it was not unusual for Corrie to lay down and sleep somewhere after a night out.

However, on this occasion he has not been seen since."

This specifies that the doorway nap was AFTER the sighting on cctv. Still unclear why police believe he did this. There must be more footage or eyewitness?

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I'm still confused, if the CCTV we've seen is the last sighting how could police think he slept in a doorway, and to say that he slept "briefly" strongly suggests that they have some way of knowing both that we was there and for how long. Was someone watching him?

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[jslk]

I'm still confused, if the CCTV we've seen is the last sighting how could police think he slept in a doorway, and to say that he slept "briefly" strongly suggests that they have some way of knowing both that we was there and for how long. Was someone watching him?

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Could it maybe be cell tower pings? If he was stationary for a time?

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[suzyjackson]

Could it maybe be cell tower pings? If he was stationary for a time?


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Could be but I wonder why they assume sleeping when he could be sitting or eating or talking to someone, phone pings wouldn't be accurate enough to say he was in a doorway. I wonder if they know which doorway it was or they are thinking he did that because he's known to have done it in the past

All very frustrating

 

[Wolf Dreamer]

Because of course, there's only one type of terrorist and that's Muslim! [emoji35]

No. Because only Islamic State have been specifically calling for their supporters to abduct and murder soldiers in the UK.