UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #1

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In fact, talking of the puppy...did nobody hear it barking and crying of loneliness and hunger all weekend??? Poor thing must've been scratching at the door and barking to go out surely

Unsubstantiated facebook post by the parent of the man who lives opposite Corrie said that the puppy didn't make a sound - maybe it had enough food, was happy to sleep,wee,poo quietly for a couple of days
 
No-one knows for sure what a persons frame of mind is...close family members to close friends to absolute strangers. Therefore the 'not leaving his puppy' statement means nothing, especially if he knew people would be around to look out for it if they perhaps had done in the past when he was out a weekend!

I think maybe one of his RAF mates would have looked after the puppy the Sunday maybe thinking Corrie had met a girl / still out. The alarm was only raised when he didn't turn up for duty the Monday. Still find that even strange, if I never heard from a friend in more than 24 hours and they had left the club / chucked out the club alone and their phone was off I would be seriously worried! Boys will be boys tho and they are different to girls that way.

In my younger days this really wouldn't have rung alarm bells for anyone, even if each friend tried to contact him a couple of times unless they all compared notes imo they will individually assume he's busy or driving or has no charge in his phone or doesn't want to reply. IMO it wouldn't be likely that anyone would think he had gone missing.

I follow another case on here where there was the same situation, young girl after a night out and she wasn't reported missing for 4 days when she didn't show up for work. Exactly the same thing was posted multiple times and sadly I think we have to accept that unless young people live in the same house as family or flatmates it can be a while before anyone realises they are missing
 
Better answer than "Horace" as it's nearer than Flex to where he is ?
And you could have just hit on something......

.....the taxi rank is "filled" or "full ish" with cars at 3.30am ? As in "no fares to go to, no office calling with a fare" ?

Where is the nearest "CCTV" that covers that rank ? Is it covered by CCTV ? It must be ?

I have been in "small towns". Trying to get a cab is a nightmare.
Even the ranks are empty.

Anyone thought of "a fake cab". Or rather a "fake private hire" car ?

I agree that's a possibility, but how likely is it that a murderer would be driving round the streets of a small town in the small hours and be lucky enough to find a victim? Or do you think he;s been given a lift somewhere then met with an accident?
 
Problem is for uncle tony to know that without doubt he would have had to have seen on CCTV / had witness accounts from flex. Possible but again intentional information being kept from the public!

Arrrrrrrgh, I wanna scream! Poor family, this has me absolutely baffled cannot begin to understand how they must be feeling!

I've read that the bouncer who asked him to leave was someone he knew (maybe from previous visits) so imo this is fairly reliable information (as far as anything is reliable in this case)
 
I agree that's a possibility, but how likely is it that a murderer would be driving round the streets of a small town in the small hours and be lucky enough to find a victim? Or do you think he;s been given a lift somewhere then met with an accident?

The fake cab suggestion has been running around my mind for the past few weeks, partly because I had a slightly alarming experience of such a thing many years ago. If you're drunk, exhausted and short of money, your judgment can be affected. The last anybody saw of Luke Durbin, who vanished without a trace after leaving a nightclub in Ipswich 10 years ago, was of him wandering around looking for a taxi to take him home.
 
That's why I mentioned the possibility of a connection between the two cases a couple of pages back. I think it's a possibility that there's a dodgy taxi driving around in the early hours looking for young men. The two towns aren't far apart. And as for the gap in years, look at Christopher Halliwell.
 
Sorry OT but can someone start a new thread on the missing discussion for Antoine Maury a 21 year old French student missing from Edinburgh since Monday 24/10/16

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...student-antoine-maury-in-new-appeal-1-4271161

It isn't letting me as it is continually bringing up an error message asking for a 'thread prefix' but the drop down menu only gives a 'no prefix' option and nothing more!
 
I've read that the bouncer who asked him to leave was someone he knew (maybe from previous visits) so imo this is fairly reliable information (as far as anything is reliable in this case)

it was Uncle Tony in an fb post who said he had been asked to leave Flex as it was thought he had had enough to drink. There were some posts by a guy in the bkack t shirt saying, I don't know who said there was an altercation between us it isnt true I shared my pizza with him and gave him a hug. Corrie's Mum said he was playing rock scissor stones in there and she akso said he clearly didnt fall asleep intentionally. The fb post is available off line as it is a public page so you can see the comments,nit was just timing that i saw these more relevant ones as there are hundreds off comments.
 
That's why I mentioned the possibility of a connection between the two cases a couple of pages back. I think it's a possibility that there's a dodgy taxi driving around in the early hours looking for young men. The two towns aren't far apart. And as for the gap in years, look at Christopher Halliwell.
the towns are very close and linked by the A14, which goes through the Tesco roundabout and sugar beet factory and ultimately Barton Mills then up to Norwich via A11 or the other direction to Kings Lynn to Lincolnshire. Its the lorry route from Felixstowe Docks. Lorry driver???
 
it was Uncle Tony in an fb post who said he had been asked to leave Flex as it was thought he had had enough to drink. There were some posts by a guy in the bkack t shirt saying, I don't know who said there was an altercation between us it isnt true I shared my pizza with him and gave him a hug. Corrie's Mum said he was playing rock scissor stones in there and she akso said he clearly didnt fall asleep intentionally. The fb post is available off line as it is a public page so you can see the comments,nit was just timing that i saw these more relevant ones as there are hundreds off comments.

Uncle Tony said it originally but I'm referring to a more recent comment that seemed to slightly contradict the reason that he was asked to leave. I don't think I'll find it again amongst the 1000s of posts on the page but I'm fairly sure it was posted by a different family member
 
Apologies if this has already been posted, I may have missed it above. Fron Corrie's mum

"Corrie would get a lift or a taxi back to Base. He has never walked back to Base. Or he would sleep in his car x"

To me this suggests that after the visit to the bins he would have headed for the taxi rank or his car, (I'm thinking getting a lift would mean with someone he knew rather than hitching although this could be wrong). It would really help if we knew where the car was parked.

On a side note questions about why he was sleeping a doorway not his car were shot down on previous pages by people saying he wouldn't do it as it was illegal, I think we need to be vary careful about dismissing things which then turn out to be contradicted by the family.

If I had to choose between heading for the car or the taxi rank I'd pick the car as a taxi would be expensive towards the end of the month just before payday, do any locals know how much this would cost. If Corrie was paying for his own drinks and food he must have already spent quite a lot of money before 1.30am. how much would he have left?
 
I agree that's a possibility, but how likely is it that a murderer would be driving round the streets of a small town in the small hours and be lucky enough to find a victim? Or do you think he;s been given a lift somewhere then met with an accident?


That's the thing @SuzyJackson.....a "fake taxi wouldn't be lucky enough to meet a victim", it would be the other way around. As in "the victim would be unlucky to meet the fake taxi".

By that I mean.....

Corrie is on his way to the taxi rank or to his car (which may be en route to the taxi rank, I don't know).

Near to the taxi rank is a "private hire car". Or at least "an illegal private hire car". No idea what the situation is like in Bury St Edmunds, but "illegal private hire cars" are a problem in the UK big cities (at least when I was in the UK they were). Maybe this problem has spread elsewhere. The "vehicle" wouldn't be "at the taxi rank". Just "near to the taxi rank". Near enough to spot someone alone "heading towards the taxis".

You would be "off guard" and "willing to get in".

The problem is.....

1. Walking from Short Brackland to the rank at the Corn Exchange, you would have to cross the Market Square. And surely there would be cctv in that area ?

2. It appears that Corrie's phone was in the bin truck. How did he get relieved of his phone ? Maybe the car was on the same route as the bin lorry ? And that brings me to the "28 minutes to get from Bury to Barton".

The bin lorry collects at 4.00am. It is then at Barton roughly "half an hour later". So there is your "28 minutes".
But Corrie was in Short Brackland at 3.25am. A direct "28 minutes" drive, should put his phone in Barton at 4.00am. And we "know" it doesn't.

So IF Corrie is in a car, say at 3.30am and lets assume his phone is with him, that car doesn't leave Bury for another half an hour....for it to then "ping" in Barton "28 minutes later".
How does something like that, appear on "cell mast triangulation". Don't forget, "triangulation" doesn't "hop" from mast to mast UNTIL you leave "one mast" and pick up the next. A car could be "driving around Bury's One Way System, whereas a phone could appear to be "stationary" (or at least "not moving") ...at least I think !
 
Hes not on his way to the taxi rank though. If he was he would have not even gone down to short bracklands. He would have tunred before and walked past barclays. Much shorter.

No reason to even go down where the 2nd camera gets him. Especially not running!!

If he was hurrying to the rank. He would run the wrong way.
 
Infact. Its even the wrong route if hes walking to base. He goes down there for a reason. Buying drugs, meeting prozzy, getting lift to barton mills for dogging.

Because the look he gives when turns back is an 'is anyone watching/has anyone seen me type look'.

Then a casual hands in pockets shimmy into the shadows.
 
Infact. Its even the wrong route if hes walking to base. He goes down there for a reason. Buying drugs, meeting prozzy, getting lift to barton mills for dogging.

Because the look he gives when turns back is an 'is anyone watching/has anyone seen me type look'.

Then a casual hands in pockets shimmy into the shadows.
That last CCTV clip is bugging me and I can't explain it. He jogs down the alley then gives a furtive look. To me I got the feeling he was looking to meet someone. I can't justify that comment and a pit stop for a piss is more likely. But it's just a got feeling that he was expecting someone.

Can anyone explain the jog? To keep warm? I'm confused and perturbed

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The police can see the whole cctv from when he stands up from hughes doorway. Does he run immediately. Or does he walk then run. Public cant see this which is frustrating.

Thats would build the picture.
 
Hes not on his way to the taxi rank though. If he was he would have not even gone down to short bracklands. He would have tunred before and walked past barclays. Much shorter.

No reason to even go down where the 2nd camera gets him. Especially not running!!

If he was hurrying to the rank. He would run the wrong way.


And that's where "the wee" comes in.
Heading to the taxi rank from the doorway, he'd just walk "up" towards it...
......passing the "Gregs / Greenwoods" alley way that leads to Short Brackland.

But "in need" of a pee, he pops down that alley and turns up at the loading area.
 
.... I suppose the question is, after a pee (and whilst heading to the taxi rank), why not just "retrace your steps".


But maybe he did ?

What are the "five sequences" of "Camera 2" ?
Which way is it looking AFTER it views down between Greggs / Greenwoods ?
 
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