UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #9

[suzyjackson]

Where is the source for Corrie buying a kebab, chips and two burgers?

Anyone else think that's a lot of food for just one person?


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We've discussed this on previous threads, regardless of what anyone thinks of the quantity of food it's pretty clear that what he bought..

From fidcorrie.co.uk "Corrie had sat down to eat a lot of food (2 burgers, a kebab and chips) he works hard, plays hard and fell asleep. It does not look like it was planned. On occasion this has happened in the past."

 

[MissTerious]

I just don't buy binning it because it's broken. These days phones have more than phone contacts and texts on them. They have bank details, photos, emails, auto fill etc. If he binned it, in my opinion it would e deliberately to leave without being traced (I would say awol or intending to commit suicide personally) You've done great on the links! Daughter goes to bed in an hour so I'll grab the tablet and help then!

I don't think you can rule anything out though. No I wouldn't bin a phone either but then I wouldn't sleep in a shop door way. Its not an expensive phone he could have this one because he goes through them so fast its not worth splashing out on an IPhone and he was drunk and probably not thinking things through.They ruled out him riding on the bin truck because they can see it leaving on CCTV if I remember correctly.

 

[PilgrimsPrayer]

Dennis Eagles for 1100L collections



QUOTE=MidsummersDay;12997633]I need a local to BSE to go to the Biffa waste depot at Hollow Lane area to identify the make of trucks they have. Are they Vultures etc? Photos would be even better with a make/model.


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[Hexenb]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcone?rewindTo=current

copied link wrong should be this one 6.30 Nicola doing interview

 

[Dcflag]

Hi, I've read this forum for many years but never registered until now.

My thought is this (and forgive me if this has already been mentioned early on).

What if Corrie hitched a lift on the back of the bin lorry without being seen by the driver and then jumped off somewhere along the route when it slowed?. Where I am, you often see the workers riding on the back of a little ledge and jumping off to grab the bins. If he was on there, there's also a possibility that he could have accidentally dropped his phone into the waste area (depending on the design of the wagon) which could explain how his phone pinged where it did but without him being there.

nicola has said many times he wasn't on the back of the lorry, I can only assume it's determined by cctv. Plus it would mean around an hours wait in the horseshoe where no one appears to have seen him.

I don't have a source that I could link to, I know she has written it. It may be on the website or perhaps a tv interview somewhere.

 

[suzyjackson]

Just to throw something random out there. What if the phone being in the bin is a coincidence and he actually put it in there himself. Some time between 3.08 and 3.24 he drops his phone, It no longer works, doesn't mean its not running in the background but he can't call anyone or write a text hence no further contact after 3.08 he gets to the horseshoe and its the bins he spots when he turns and wanders over to the area and he chucks his phone in the bin. He then waits on the steps for his pre-arranged lift or something happens with someone already there.

I do think he could have thrown the phone away himself but unless he was planning on going AWOL I think there's a possibility that if it was broken he'd still take it home to take out the sim card and back up anything he needed on the phone, photos etc.

But also willing to accept that a young lad may have a throw away attitude and not care about the hassle of getting all his contacts and data onto a new phone and just think, oh well, I'll buy a new one tomorrrow

 

[Clevercat]

0300: Shift start time & vehicle checked
0340: Vehicle departs for SB
0400: Bin man enters SB
0405: Driver fills in collection paperwork.
0415: Bin man starts collection procedure
0420: Bin man sees three teenagers in SB
0425: Bin man finishes collection procedure
0430: Bin man departs SB for BM
0500: Bin lorry arrives at BM roundabout.

21(15): Corrie feeds the dog and locks him in the bathroom.
21(30): Two cars with Corrie's workmates depart Hon.
2139:
2200: Corrie departs Hon in his own car (with a passenger?).
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/what-time-did-corrie-leave-raf-honington/
2221: Corrie parks in disabled bay in Robert Roby Way.
2221-2300: Corrie drinks in his car whilst making a phone call to Darroch.
2305: Corrie walks to SoBar pub and meets up with work colleagues.
2320: Corrie walks to Weatherspoons.
0025: Corrie enters Flex night club.
0040: Corrie is 'ejected' from the nightclub.
0055: Corrie enters kebab shop.
0110: Corrie leaves kebab shop with kebab, chips and two burgers.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/isnt-it-weird-to-sleep-in-a-doorway/
0115: Corrie seen walking purposefully towards The Grapes pub.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/what-time-is-the-1st-cctv-that-we-see-him-on/
0300: Shift start time for bin man. Vehicle checked.
0308: Corrie sends/receives photo image from Hughes.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/has-the-text-message-corrie-sent-at-0308-been-looked-in-to/
0319: Two persons seen walking from Market Square towards McDonalds.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0321: White Tshirt man, Cornhill walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0324: Last CCTV sighting of Corrie.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/when-and-where-was-corrie-last-seen/
0326: Two people with light clothing seen coming from Market Square towards McDonalds.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0335: Dark clothing1 man, Cornhill Walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0340: Running man, Lurker & Legs man seen in 'Horseshoe'.
0349: Bin lorry departs (Hollow Lane) for BSE.
0356: Bicycle man, cycling around Cornhill area.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0400: Bin lorry enters SB.
0405: Bin lorry driver fills in collection paperwork.
0410: Bins lorry driver starts collection procedure of ONE BIN with 11kgs of material in it. It then drives to its next pick up in Mildenhall and onto the recycling centre outside of the county via the Barton Mills roundabout.
0420: Bin man finishes collection procedure in SB. Three teenagers seen in Shortbrackland by bin man.
0430: Corrie's phone left the BSE mast area. Bin lorry departs SB and heads towards Mildenhall for a collection, along A1101 via the BM roundabout.
0450: (Bin lorry is at Barton Mills roundabout.)
0500: Corrie's phone enters the BM mast area.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/has-corries-phone-been-checked/
0501: Dark clothing2 man seen walking around Cornhill Walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0503: (Corrie's phone would be at BM roundabout at this time.
0505: (Bin lorry is at Mildenhall).
0518: Dark clothing3 man seen walking around Cornhill Walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0520: Dark backpack man seen in Cornhill Market Square area.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0800: Corrie's phone is last active within the BM mast area.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ouZCCnULs34

On the Forces News Special (7/12) it says
'immediately before meeting up with his friends he spends 40 mins talking to his brother' (doesn't mention drinking though or time)
also that he is picked up by CCTV at 1.20 on Brentgoval St eating food
http://forces.tv/60192868

on live interview with Nicola on 8/12 https://www.facebook.com/ForcesTV/videos/1447132871978378/

she says that at 3.08 Corrie replies to a message on his phone and 15 mins later he gets up and moves

 

[suzyjackson]

Welcome to all our new posters, if you haven't already seen the FAQs the family have posted on the official website they are a good source to confirm the basic facts, sadly there's not much we know for sure

http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/category/frequently-asked-questions/

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Good sleuthing, I'm catching up and was going to post to say that I've never used a household wast site that was also used for commercial collections. I haven't lived in the BSE area but in several others and tips are always strictly for the general public

I think it's quite common generally, though it is restricted to small local businesses. Think about a self-employed painter and decorator disposing of old wallpaper, or a self-employed gardener disposing of prunings from hedges and trees or pieces of old fence.

 

[Dcflag]

I don't think you can rule anything out though. No I wouldn't bin a phone either but then I wouldn't sleep in a shop door way. Its not an expensive phone he could have this one because he goes through them so fast its not worth splashing out on an IPhone and he was drunk and probably not thinking things through.They ruled out him riding on the bin truck because they can see it leaving on CCTV if I remember correctly.

I guess we'll have to disagree. I just think it would be highly unlikely.

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

Just catching up. Someone asked about where the bin lorry did its pickup in Mildenhall. I don't know but I do wonder if in the Forces TV special there was a clue by filming outside Sainsbury's?

Also I'll look for a link but it is interesting that MelmothTheLost got that response about the HWRC. I found the below link that states the HWRC had a very recent overhaul that started the 19th of September and it also tells us that FCC Environment are the site operators.

https://www.suffolk.gov.uk/council-...rovement-work-for-mildenhall-recycling-centre

 

[suzyjackson]

Just catching up. Someone asked about where the bin lorry did its pickup in Mildenhall. I don't know but I do wonder if in the Forces TV special there was a clue by filming outside Sainsbury's?

Also I'll look for a link but it is interesting that MelmothTheLost got that response about the HWRC. I found the below link that states the HWRC had a very recent overhaul that started the beginning of September and it also tells us that FCC Environment are the site operators.

https://www.suffolk.gov.uk/council-...rovement-work-for-mildenhall-recycling-centre

There's only one way to sort this out, one of local posters needs to follow the bin lorry round its round one night starting at the horseshoe, who has a dashcam?

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

There's only one way to sort this out, one of local posters needs to follow the bin lorry round it's round one night starting at the horseshoe, who has a dashcam?

I have one but I don't think it would be wise to stalk a bin lorry at 4 in the morning......

 

[jessie]

I have one but I don't think it would be wise to stalk a bin lorry at 4 in the morning......

Melmoth's post was referring to the opening hours of the site though, to tie in with the collection/deposit of cardboard waste.
With these improvements we still have no idea whether this site would be open to receive waste at = what - 5/6 a.m.?

 

[cotswoldemmie]

0300: Shift start time & vehicle checked
0340: Vehicle departs for SB
0400: Bin man enters SB
0405: Driver fills in collection paperwork.
0415: Bin man starts collection procedure
0420: Bin man sees three teenagers in SB
0425: Bin man finishes collection procedure
0430: Bin man departs SB for BM
0500: Bin lorry arrives at BM roundabout.

21(15): Corrie feeds the dog and locks him in the bathroom.
21(30): Two cars with Corrie's workmates depart Hon.
2139:
2200: Corrie departs Hon in his own car (with a passenger?).
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/what-time-did-corrie-leave-raf-honington/
2221: Corrie parks in disabled bay in Robert Roby Way.
2221-2300: Corrie drinks in his car whilst making a phone call to Darroch.
2305: Corrie walks to SoBar pub and meets up with work colleagues.
2320: Corrie walks to Weatherspoons.
0025: Corrie enters Flex night club.
0040: Corrie is 'ejected' from the nightclub.
0055: Corrie enters kebab shop.
0110: Corrie leaves kebab shop with kebab, chips and two burgers.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/isnt-it-weird-to-sleep-in-a-doorway/
0115: Corrie seen walking purposefully towards The Grapes pub.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/what-time-is-the-1st-cctv-that-we-see-him-on/
0300: Shift start time for bin man. Vehicle checked.
0308: Corrie sends/receives photo image from Hughes.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/has-the-text-message-corrie-sent-at-0308-been-looked-in-to/
0319: Two persons seen walking from Market Square towards McDonalds.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0321: White Tshirt man, Cornhill walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0324: Last CCTV sighting of Corrie.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/when-and-where-was-corrie-last-seen/
0326: Two people with light clothing seen coming from Market Square towards McDonalds.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0335: Dark clothing1 man, Cornhill Walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0340: Running man, Lurker & Legs man seen in 'Horseshoe'.
0349: Bin lorry departs (Hollow Lane) for BSE.
0356: Bicycle man, cycling around Cornhill area.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0400: Bin lorry enters SB.
0405: Bin lorry driver fills in collection paperwork.
0410: Bins lorry driver starts collection procedure of ONE BIN with 11kgs of material in it. It then drives to its next pick up in Mildenhall and onto the recycling centre outside of the county via the Barton Mills roundabout.
0420: Bin man finishes collection procedure in SB. Three teenagers seen in Shortbrackland by bin man.
0430: Corrie's phone left the BSE mast area. Bin lorry departs SB and heads towards Mildenhall for a collection, along A1101 via the BM roundabout.
0450: (Bin lorry is at Barton Mills roundabout.)
0500: Corrie's phone enters the BM mast area.
http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/2016/11/11/has-corries-phone-been-checked/
0501: Dark clothing2 man seen walking around Cornhill Walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0503: (Corrie's phone would be at BM roundabout at this time.
0505: (Bin lorry is at Mildenhall).
0518: Dark clothing3 man seen walking around Cornhill Walk.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0520: Dark backpack man seen in Cornhill Market Square area.
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/missing-persons/corrie-mckeague
0800: Corrie's phone is last active within the BM mast area.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ouZCCnULs34


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Can you add in the police information? For example that after phone data analysis, they put Corrie/his phone in Mildenhall from 4.30-8am? I would say that's a pretty important fact.
There need to be police facts in there too otherwise the differences between the family & police information won't be evident...if that makes sense?

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Melmoth's post was referring to the opening hours of the site though, to tie in with the collection/deposit of cardboard waste.
With these improvements we still have no idea whether this site would be open to receive waste at = what - 5/6 a.m.?

We do know this. I specifically asked if the site was open outside of the published hours and I was told no. The hours are 9 - 5 in summer and 9 - 4 in winter.

The only people permitted to use the site are local householders, and some very small local businesses providing they have the requisite permit from the county council.

 

[jessie]

We do know this. I specifically asked if the site was open outside of the published hours and I was told no. The hours are 9 - 5 in summer and 9 - 4 in winter.

The only people permitted to use the site are local householders, and some very small local businesses providing they have the requisite permit from the county council.

I did understand your useful post \Melmoth.
I am actually querying if this 'upgraded' site would have different opening hours - otherwise I don't think we can be confident this site was used. My query was to TTWO, not you.

 

[Scorpio1]

Do all the old family updates still exist? Can't see then on the website, i would like to know the date of the update that Tony first said that it was impossible to walk out with out being see on cctv, also what date was the bin lorry seized, anyone know ware i can find all the old updates?

 

[jessie]

Do all the old family updates still exist? Can't see then on the website, i would like to know the date of the update that Tony first said that it was impossible to walk out with out being see on cctv, also what date was the bin lorry seized, anyone know ware i can find all the old updates?

If you scroll down it says "old updates". Takes you to previous items on each of the pages.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

I did understand your useful post \Melmoth.
I am actually querying if this 'upgraded' site would have different opening hours - otherwise I don't think we can be confident this site was used. My query was to TTWO, not you.

Whether the site has been upgraded or not, the chap at the council confirmed that the opening times on the website are correct.

Since it is specifically intended for use by local residents, why would it be open at 5am?