Legally Bland
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Your logic is flawed, your conflation of the two cases doesn't mean that the incompetence in one of the cases wasn't because of institutional racism. There quite clearly was institutional racism involved in the StePHen Lawrence investigation, whether it was treating a victim and witness as a suspect or surveilling Stephen's parents, the only reason it happened is because they are black.About time too! Justice has been kept away from Daniel’s family for far too long and the perpetrator(s), who are known, have continued to live their lives for the last 32 years. The Met Police have totally failed this man.
I don’t want to get or be all political but what is shameful is that quite rightly, Steven Lawrence was subjected to many enquiries too and Lord McPherson chaired an enquiry into his death where he accused the Police of incompetence on the basis of Steven being black and therefore it was endemic institutionalised racism.
I have some difficulty with that when compared to Daniel Morgan’s murder because he too was murdered , incidentally (it’s alleged) by other Police and former Police officers . The Met Police were incompetent in this enquiry and investigation too, as they were with Stevens , and yet this is not and never had been a high profile murder enquiry. Daniel was white . Its not always about racism although I accept that people in these minority communities do suffer, and on some occasions, depending on where they live, it’s disproportionate and some suffer tremendously and I think it’s absolutely disgusting and it’s something that should be addressed every single day.
However, sometimes we just have to say that the Met Police were incompetent in both of these investigations because they were just that , incompetent!!
#justice for Daniel Morgan
There is so much from the McPherson report that I disagree withYour logic is flawed, your conflation of the two cases doesn't mean that the incompetence in one of the cases wasn't because of institutional racism. There quite clearly was institutional racism involved in the StePHen Lawrence investigation, whether it was treating a victim and witness as a suspect or surveilling Stephen's parents, the only reason it happened is because they are black.
I don't know whether you genuinely don't understand what institutional racism is, or are deliberately misrepresenting it, but either way I find your comment disgraceful.
Feel free to disagree with me, but I would appreciate it if you quoted from the Macpherson report as to what exactly you disagree with.
https://assets.publishing.service.g.../uploads/attachment_data/file/277111/4262.pdf
The only person to conflate the investigations of Stephen Lawrence and Daniel Morgan is you. It's unfortunate that it's on this thread, but here we are. I have no inclination to PM you, I'm perfectly happy to air my opinions in public. I don't think you do understand institutional racism, you're misinterpreting it as overt racism. It's really very clear that by saying the police is institutionally racist, it isn't calling you, or your colleagues, racist. Seeing as you don't seem willing to quote the report I will:There is so much from the McPherson report that I disagree with
I do understand what Institutional racism is and I don’t appreciate the ‘disgraceful’ comment
I lived through this whilst a serving member of the Police and there was so much damage done by some of the representations of the McPherson report because it wasn’t and isn’t all that simple
Genuine police officers suffered
Those that were and are racist deserve the label as being a racist officer
However nobody suffered more than Doreen Lawrence at the loss of her son
As did Daniel Morgan mother
My point is that sometimes we just have to say that the MET ( not my force ) were incompetent
I am not going here any further with you on this thread because it’s about Daniel Morgan and he deserves his story to be heard
There’s no malice intended in my comments and maybe I have worded it badly but irrespective of that , the Met didn’t give this investigation the justice it deserved and it’s still happening to this day .
I worked on the Anthony Walker enquiry and we sought proper justice for him as a racially motivated murdered man . The team who investigated it, did so properly and professionally. The Met didn’t ! There needs to be a huge overhaul of a lot of their dealings .
So I will leave it there because I’m not as I said in my post, getting political. There’s hours worth of conversation that I could have with you on this exact subject.
So please, feel free to PM me and when I have time, I will enter into dialogue.
Have a great day. A
The perpetrator is pretty obvious but the waters are so muddied now by corruption, incompetence and deliberate obstruction that they will never be brought to justice.Thank you @dotr , honestly I think the Daniel Morgan case is just so mired in corruption involving so many people that we will never get an actual admission to what actually happened. However I think we all know it was a major cover up.