GUILTY UK - Hashim Ijazuddin, 21, and Saqib Hussain, 20, car crash A46 Leicester 11 Feb 2022 *Murder Arrests*

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Patel described moment of the fatal crash​

He went on: "The third time he's got him sideways, the car is literally being dragged across the A46, pushing him.
"You can clearly see the passenger and driver in the Skoda. Raees has kept in contact with him and he's done a 180. And there is a violent blow to the passenger side front of the Skoda and this car's gone flying over the central reservation.
"The Skoda's trying to get out of it, turning the wheel left and right but it's gone flying, flipped on its roof in the air. I think he hit the metal barrier and clipped onto one of the bollards."

Patel describes being traumatised by what happened​

Patel tells the police he wanted to call 999 after the crash but was ordered by the others to keep his phone off. He said that in the days after the crash he "felt really bad" and was "traumatised by the situation".

 

Mohammed Patel interviewed again by police​

Patel's first police interview was on March 7. There was a second interview the next day, which the jury is watching now. In it, the police ask him how he knows Raees Jamal was the driver of the Seat Leon when the crash happened.
He said he saw Raees Jamal driving the Seat Leon as it left Tesco in Hamilton, just before the crash. He tells the police that after the crash the Audi TT stopped just off the A46, where Rekan Karwan, who had been driving the Audi TT during the pursuit, handed over the Mahek Bukhari. The jury has previously heard that the details about who was in which car and who was driving was not disputed by the other barristers.

Patel told police more about what he knew before the incidents​

When questioned by the officers Patel described how he had been given very little information before meeting up with his co-defendants. He said Raees Jamal told him there was a "situation" and he was to go to Rekan Karwan's home. He said: "In the Audi TT Rekan told me we was going to speak to two guys. That's all I know. They had arranged to meet at Tesco."
One of the officers asked him: "Is this something you would ordinarily do? I'd want to know a little bit about it."
He was then asked if he had done that sort of thing before and he replied: "I can't really say" and indicated he did not want to answer the question. He then asked for a break to talk to his solicitor who was in the interview, sitting next to him.
 

Patel didn't think he would need to use wheel brace​

Patel is again going over the moment Rekan Karwan handed him a wheel brace from the back of the Audi TT. Patel told the police: "He said, 'Just hold that'. I said, 'What will I need it for?' He said to keep it. I thought I wouldn't be using it at all. I held onto the item and got it into my shorts, my trousers."

Patel never saw Skoda arrive in Tesco​

As he continues to go into more detail about the incidents, Patel has been asked about weapons. He said he was not aware of anyone else having a weapon - just his wheel brace.
He said Rekan told him to come with him and they waited near some steps leading from the car park down to the road outside Tesco - what Patel previously described as a "stairwell". He is asked what was going through his mind as he waited with Rekan. He said: "A million things are going through my head. I needed to get out. I needed to calm the situation down. I felt under a lot of pressure."
He said he assumed the Skoda had seen him and Rekan and decided to flee. He said he did not see the Skoda at any point.

 
Even tough Mohammed Patel is singing like a canary I do not put much weight behind his words.
He states he was there "just to talk" but readily put a weapon down his trousers and jumped
into the Audi when they were taking off for the tragic chase.

I wonder if any of the defendants just tell it as it is and cant believe it ended in the tragic deaths.
I will not hold my breath IMO
 

Mahek 'made calls to Saqib to persuade him to stop'​

Patel told the police that during the pursuit, Mahek spoke to Saqib on the phone and tried to get him to stop at a different supermarket to meet up. Patel claimed Mahek first of all tried to get Saqib to stop at Sainsbury's in Rushey Mead and then later tried to persuade him to stop at Asda in Thurmaston but he refused.

Saqib asked to speak to Ansreen in "heated" discussion​

Patel described how Mahek was on speakerphone talking to Saqib in the Skoda. He said that he heard Saqib asking Mahek: "Can you put your mum on the phone." He said he did not know about the affair between Mahek's mother, Ansreen, and Saqib. he said he thought the situation was about money and "some sort of extorting".
He said Mahek and Saqib were swearing at each other and the argument was getting "heated".
He added: "The situation had nothing to do with me. I didn't want to be there. I was in the wrong place at the wrong time."
 

Mahek and mum said nothing while Seat Leon was ramming Skoda Fabia​

Patel said Mahek Bukhari and her mother, Ansreen, were not saying anything while the Seat Leon was ramming the Skoda. He said his phone was still being used for a convesation between the two drivers - Raees Jamal and Rekan Karwan - up until the point of the crash.
He went on to describe how the cars both left the A46 after the crash and there were more phone conversations after that.

Patel describes driving back past the burning Skoda​

Patel described stopping off the A46, where Mahek took over driving the Audi TT, and then heading back towards Leicester. Patel told the officer they had followed the same route back and as they passed the wreck of the Skoda Ansreen Bukhari was crying, with her daughter trying to comfort her from the driver's seat.

 

Mohammed Patel interviewed again by police​

Patel's first police interview was on March 7. There was a second interview the next day, which the jury is watching now. In it, the police ask him how he knows Raees Jamal was the driver of the Seat Leon when the crash happened.
He said he saw Raees Jamal driving the Seat Leon as it left Tesco in Hamilton, just before the crash. He tells the police that after the crash the Audi TT stopped just off the A46, where Rekan Karwan, who had been driving the Audi TT during the pursuit, handed over the Mahek Bukhari. The jury has previously heard that the details about who was in which car and who was driving was not disputed by the other barristers.

Patel told police more about what he knew before the incidents​

When questioned by the officers Patel described how he had been given very little information before meeting up with his co-defendants. He said Raees Jamal told him there was a "situation" and he was to go to Rekan Karwan's home. He said: "In the Audi TT Rekan told me we was going to speak to two guys. That's all I know. They had arranged to meet at Tesco."
One of the officers asked him: "Is this something you would ordinarily do? I'd want to know a little bit about it."
He was then asked if he had done that sort of thing before and he replied: "I can't really say" and indicated he did not want to answer the question. He then asked for a break to talk to his solicitor who was in the interview, sitting next to him.

It would be helpful to know what Mohammed Patel looks like. It sounds from what he's saying - and from what he's declining to say - that he might be the big, scary-looking bloke you bring along when you don't want to win a fight so much as to avoid having to have the fight in the first place. In that scenario, it could be true that he had a weapon but didn't expect to have to use it. But if he's a small guy who wouldn't automatically scare others off, then you've got to think he turned up willing to do whatever was asked.

JMO
 
It would be helpful to know what Mohammed Patel looks like. It sounds from what he's saying - and from what he's declining to say - that he might be the big, scary-looking bloke you bring along when you don't want to win a fight so much as to avoid having to have the fight in the first place. In that scenario, it could be true that he had a weapon but didn't expect to have to use it. But if he's a small guy who wouldn't automatically scare others off, then you've got to think he turned up willing to do whatever was asked.

JMO
can't find him conclusively on fb. Sure I've found RJ, he looks like a big boy heightwise. Wonder if the tiktok accounts still active?

Fell asleep while reading the thread earlier, need to go back and re read the last couple of days to see what I missed.
 

Patel shown CCTV footage of him on the night of the fatal crash​

The two police officers in the interview are showing Patel CCTV footage and asking him to confirm that it's him. He is looking at clips from about 2am on February 11 - about half an hour after the fatal crash on the A46. The eight defendants had all returned to Leicester after the crash, the jury has already been told.

'He seemed like a decent guy'​

Mohammed Patel described his friendship with Raees Jamal, who he had met a couple of months earlier through what the officers described as a "'making-friends website". Patel told the officers: "He seemed like a decent guy. We'd go out and stuff, just me and him."
He said he hadn't known Rekan Karwan before he met Raees Jamal but knew Karwan's dad. He knew Ammeer Jamal through Raees Jamal, who is his cousin.

Awkward moment as Patel asked if he wore a balaclava​

In the interview Patel was asked about the balaclavas the others were wearing and he tells the officers that Ammeer Jamal, Sanaf Gulammustafa and Rekan Karwan were all wearing balaclavas in the Tesco car park as they waited for the two crash victims to arrive at the meeting.
An officer asked him: "What did you think of that?" He replied: "Very suspicious". The officer asked: "Did you wear one?" Patel replied; "Er, can I have chat?" and points at his solicitor.
There's a break of a few minutes and then the police ask him again if he wore a balaclava. He replied that he had worn one, too. He said: "Raees, when he rang me, told me, 'Bring a balaclava'." He said he didn't ask why. He said: "I just panicked". He said he didn't know where his balaclava was now.
 

Patel tells police he knew Rekan Karwan owned city centre garage​

Rekan Karwan, Patel said, owned Rex Motors in Midland Street, Leicester city centre. He is asked about Karwan's role in the incident but he said it was Raees Jamal who seemed to be the "alpha" in the group. He said he was "making most of the moves".

Patel worked for Virgin​

During a conversation about phone calls and "cell site data" that pinpoints the locations calls are made from, the police asked Patel if he knew what they meant by cell site data. An officer added that he probably did because he worked for Virgin. There are no further details about what job he did for the company.

'You still think people are going for a chat? Are you sticking to that?'​

Next Patel is asked about what happened at Tesco, where he has previously said he thought he was just going with the others to chat to the two crash victims, despite being told to bring his balaclava and being given a wheel brace to put down his trousers.
An officer asked him: "It seemed like it was going to be a bit of an ambush?" Patel replied: "I don't know."
The officer asked: "Everyone's got on balaclavas and you've been given a tool. You still think people are going for a chat? Are you sticking to that?" Patel replied: "Yep."
 

'My brain's not working'​

The police told Patel his story did not match up with the phone data. A phone call that he said started during the pursuit had, according to the data, started at Tesco. The conversation lasted 14 minutes - from a few seconds before they left Tesco to shortly after the crash.
When asked if he thought the phone data must be wrong, he admitted: "The amount of pressure that's going in my head - my brain's not working." He said the data was probably accurate.
He said he had held the phone up to Rekan Karwan, the driver of the Audi TT, so that he could communicate with Raees Jamal, who was driving the Seat Leon.

Patel blames lack of memories on seing 'a car go up in flames'​

The police question Patel about a further seven-minute phone conversation from his phone to Raees Jamal in the Seat Leon. Again, he told the officers, he was holding his phone up for Rekan Karwan to speak to Raees Jamal. He said he didn't remember any details of the conversation and "a lot of it was silent".
He said: "At this point my brain is switched off. I've seen a car go up in flames."
He was asked more about the crash and said he had seen the initial impact and then seen the car in flames later as they passed it on the other side of the road five or six minutes after the collision.

'How would a jury see this?'​

The police told Patel they thought most of what he is telling them matched up with what they already knew but they said they didn't think he was telling them the whole truth.
An officer said: "What I can't get my head around - if this is in court and a jury is looking at this... you've had a phone call from someone you've known two months and they've told you to go out with a balaclava. You get there and other people are wearing balaclavas.
"Then he's given you a wheel brace? You've not asked any questions and got into the car?
"You're sitting in that jury, how does that look?"
Patel replied: "Not good."
The officer said: "It doesn't really." Patel replied other people - Rekan Karwan and Raees Jamal - were putting him under pressure to do as he was told. He added that he was "a bit stoned".
He said he had smoked about £10 worth of cannabis in the hours before the crash.

Patel 'given legal advice' not to hand himself in to the police​

The officers asked him why he had not handed him into the police and he replied over and again that a third party - no one involved but someone who he refused to name - gave him "legal advice" not to.
The officer said: "You know right from wrong, do you not? You know what happened was wrong.
"It resulted in the death of two people and you were involved in that."
 

Detective cross examined​

One of the detectives in the interview recording, Det Con Richard Gammage, is called to give evidence and sworn in. He is currently being questioned by Leonard Smith KC, the barrister for Raees Jamal. Mr Smith is asking the officer about the information police gave Patel's solicitor before his interviews took place.

Patel's own barrister asks some questions​

There have only been basic questions so far for Det Con Gammage, who has confirmed details about how the defendant and his solicitor at the police station were informed about details in the case by the police. Now Sarah Vine KC, barrister for Patel, is asking Det Con Gammage some questions.

Barrister asked about difficulty of finding out what someone is thinking​

Ms Vine told the officer it was quick and simple to get mobile phone data for a murder investigation and he replied that it was. She then said: "If someone gives you an account of what's going on in their mind, that can be much more difficult to prove or disprove?" DC Gammage replied: "At times, yes."
 

Nothing much comes out of cross-examination​

The detective was just asked a lot about the interviews but there were no accusations that the police had got anything wrong or any interesting revelations. The detective has now left the witness stand and there's going to be a little break.
Next will be the interview with Ammeer Jamal, who is the last defendant to have given information to the police after Patel and Mahek Bukhari.
 

Not much from Ammeer Jamal interview​

The jury was played an audio recording of Ammeer Jamal's interview, which was before the was arrested. In it, he asked the police why they had been looking for his cousin, Raees. He gives the police officers phone numbers for Raees and Rekan Karwan and the interview ends.

Sanaf Gulammustafa's interview​

The interviews with Sanaf Gulammustafa are read out to the jury. For much of the interview he responded "no comment". When asked about the A46 crash he told them: "I weren't there." When asked if he had ever been on the A46 he shook his head.

Sanaf Gulammustafa claimed he had been in Lincolnshire in the Seat Leon but not the A46​

In his interview he told the police about a time he had been in a blue Seat Leon with some of his co-defendants when they were all stopped by police in Lincolnshire.
He told them: "At about the end of January I was in that car, towards Lincoln. I was in that car as we got pulled over."
When asked who was in the car, he named Raees and Ammeer Jamal and Natasha Akhtar. He said: "The police came and searched us and let us go as well."
He was also asked if he smoked drugs or drank alcohol and he said he did not.
 

Jury hears long statement from Sanaf Gulammustafa​

But he corrected himself soon after that, claiming that he was high on drugs on the night of the crash and also admitting that he was there.
He said: "I deny involvement in the murder of Saqib Hussain and Mohammed Hashim Ijazuddin." He went on to say that he spent most of February 10 at home looking after his father, who has stage four cancer.
He said that at about 8pm he went to a shisha cafe with Raees Jamal, Ammeer Jamal and Natasha Akhtar. He said that Rekan Karwan was also there but he didn't speak to them much.
He said: "At some point Rekan Karwan arrived and stayed for about 10 minutes. I don't believe I spoke to him much except to say hello."

'We were playing Monopoly'​

Gulammustafa said he took his Monopoly board along to the Tubo shisha cafe near the Belgrave Circle roundabout. He said: "We played Monopoly and smoked shisha. We used my Monopoly board."
He said the group left at about 9pm to 10pm and smoked cannabis in the car park outside. He said: "We smoked a cannabis joint which relaxed me in the way smoking cannabis would.
"There was no real plan, however I wanted to go home."
 

Jury hears long statement from Sanaf Gulammustafa​

But he corrected himself soon after that, claiming that he was high on drugs on the night of the crash and also admitting that he was there.
He said: "I deny involvement in the murder of Saqib Hussain and Mohammed Hashim Ijazuddin." He went on to say that he spent most of February 10 at home looking after his father, who has stage four cancer.
He said that at about 8pm he went to a shisha cafe with Raees Jamal, Ammeer Jamal and Natasha Akhtar. He said that Rekan Karwan was also there but he didn't speak to them much.
He said: "At some point Rekan Karwan arrived and stayed for about 10 minutes. I don't believe I spoke to him much except to say hello."

'We were playing Monopoly'​

Gulammustafa said he took his Monopoly board along to the Tubo shisha cafe near the Belgrave Circle roundabout. He said: "We played Monopoly and smoked shisha. We used my Monopoly board."
He said the group left at about 9pm to 10pm and smoked cannabis in the car park outside. He said: "We smoked a cannabis joint which relaxed me in the way smoking cannabis would.
"There was no real plan, however I wanted to go home."
thank you RusselSprout for all the updates this morning, much appreciated.
 

'I didn't think anything untoward was happening'​

In his statement, he said: "We arrived at Rekan Karwan's home and Rekan and Raees were talking while I stayed in the vehicle. Mohammed Patel arrived by foot. I didn't think anything untoward was happening."

'I just wanted to get my lift home'​

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Gulammustafa claimed he was just a stoned passenger in everything that happened with the Skoda. He described Mahek and Ansreen Bukhari arriving and "some chat about someone coming to Leicester to speak to the ladies". He added: "This was not hostile."
He said: "I just wanted to get my lift home."

'The Seat Leon and the Skoda made contact'​

His statement added: "We left Rekan's house. I didn't know where we were going." He said they went to Tesco and his statement suddenly shifts to the chase.
He said: "The Seat Leon is goign fast and chasing another vehicle. I was telling them to slow down. The Seat Leon and the Skoda made contact. and the Skoda came off the road."

Gulammustafa didn't want parents to smell cannabis on him​

He said that after the crash, he stayed with the group only because he didn't want to go back to his home while he still smelled of the cannabis he had been smoking.
He said: "The reason I stayed out was I had smoked cannabis. My mother or my father would have smelled this on my clothing and realised I was high. I was later dropped off."
 

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