GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #16

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@skymartinbrunt
martinbrunt
"Def: Has Pros proved she did not invite him in?"
3 minutes ago via Mobile Web

@skymartinbrunt
martinbrunt
"Def in #Yeates trial: There was no forced entry. Would she have left door open on a night of minus 18 temperature?"
2 minutes ago via Mobile Web

skymartinbrunt martinbrunt
"Def: Missing sock #JoYeates? She may have taken it off because she had a hole in her boot."
2 minutes ago

@skymartinbrunt
martinbrunt
"Defence: The only conclusion is she let in Tabak to the flat. It can't have been planned."
1 minute ago via Mobile Web

 

[Cherwell]

Sounds like Clegg is trying to mislead the jury by banging on about planning and premeditation. Hope the judge clears this up later on.

 

[Sammyme]

I can't believe the antics of this Clegg. It's as if she opened the door, therefore he isn't guilty - she is. For crying out loud! She doesn't even have to have opened the door and invited him in. She could well have opened the door to let the cat out or to call the cat in.

 

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Rupert Evelyn
C 'there's no evidence to support or back-up' many of the suggestions from the Prosecution


Clegg asks 'is there any evidence to contradict the proposition that she invited him. The answer is absolutely none'.

Rupert Evelyn
Bill Clegg (BC) QC on his feet talking directly to the jury.

Rupert Evelyn
Questions about Jo and Greg's cat Bernard were out of desperation, Clegg tells the court

Rupert Evelyn
back in court. Thank you widiane

Rupert Evelyn
Did you hear Miss Yeates come home? Tabak was asked by police. 'How on earth was he going to be able to do that' Clegg asks

Rupert Evelyn
Tabak wouldn't have known when Jo was coming home from the pub, Clegg says, which undermines argument that the act was planned

Rupert Evelyn
She wouldn't have done any of those things with the door open, Clegg says.

Rupert Evelyn
Jo had taken off her boots, outer coat, green fleece when she got home. And she might have taken off a sock, William Clegg points out

Rupert Evelyn
It was freezing outside and he implies no-one would have left the door open

Rupert Evelyn
"Have the prosecution proved, so that you are sure, she did not invite him in?" Clegg asks the jury

Rupert Evelyn
Clegg asks: How did Tabak get inside Joanna's flat? Did she invite him in?

Rupert Evelyn
Tabak's defence Clegg tells jury "I'm not going to ask you for sympathy, he deserves none"

Rupert Evelyn
ITV News Producer @widianemoussa is in court and will tweet the defence speech as it gets underway. Won't you Widiane?

 

[veggiefan]

Did VT not admit to being in the bedroom then ? To placing her on the bed ?

Yes he did (and I forgot that), but I don't think there's any proof of it such (such as DNA evidence, fibres etc).

If we think VT has lied about most things, I don't know whether we trust him when he claims that or not.

 

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@skymartinbrunt
martinbrunt
"Defence: Pros tried to suggest Tabak was out in Clifton that night and saw Jo Yeates arrive home. No evidence of that."
1 minute ago via Mobile Web

@skymartinbrunt
martinbrunt
"Defence: Not a shred of evidence Tabak saw, heard or knew Jo Yeates was home. All a desperate attempt to prove he knew"
2 minutes ago via Mobile Web

@skymartinbrunt
martinbrunt
"Defence: Pros case is theories, not evidence to show Tabak knew Jo Yeates was at home."
2 minutes ago via Mobile Web

@skymartinbrunt
martinbrunt
"Defence #Yeates trial: No evidence to disprove proposition that Joanne invited Tabak into her flat. Fatal blow to Pros"
1 minute ago via Mobile Web

 

[Cherwell]

Rupert Evelyn
Jo had taken off her boots, outer coat, green fleece when she got home. And she might have taken off a sock, William Clegg points out

she might have taken off a sock? Just the one? FFS! What planet is Clegg on?

 

[veggiefan]

The prosecution does not have to prove that 32 year-old PhDs know that strangling people tends to kill them any more than it has to prove they know that acorns come from oak trees .

Would you agree that if I put my hands around your neck and pressed for one second, it is highly unlikely that you would even pass out, let alone die?

So what if I pressed for five seconds? Would that do it? Or would it need ten seconds? Or perhaps 20 seconds?

These things are not clear cut, and the court can hardly conduct an experiment to find how long it would take.

Do you not see the difficulty?

 

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@skynewsgatherer
Harriet Tolputt
"Mr Clegg reminding the jury that Joanna's lower clothes were in place. "She never was interfered with," says Clegg."
1 minute ago via Twitter for iPhone

 

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@skynewsgatherer
Harriet Tolputt
"Clegg says that Joanna's bra being pulled up was consistent with her body being moved."
56 seconds ago via Twitter for iPhone

 

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@rupertevelyn
Rupert Evelyn
"BC talking about DNA evidence found on Jo's chest. Dr carey told court he'd frequently seen bodies with clothing pushed up as Jo was found"
1 minute ago via Twitter for iPhone

 

[Cherwell]

Do you not see the difficulty?

Fair play, but he has admitted that he thought there was a possibility that she might still be alive, yet he didn't call for help. If you didn't intend someone's death, you would do all you can to save them.

 

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BC 'when you examine the evidence you may find the prosecution has failed to produce any evidence that this was sexually motivated'

BC says there was no question of bra being undone at that back says DNA findings were consistent with attempt to put body over wall

Rupert Evelyn
BC talking about DNA evidence found on Jo's chest. Dr carey told court he'd frequently seen bodies with clothing pushed up as Jo was found

Rupert Evelyn
BC 'dr carey told that it was pure speculation that this was sexually motivated. Pure speculation that's not what juries do in this country'

Rupert Evelyn
BC 'what is the evidence that the killing was linked to sex?' #Tabak #yeates

Rupert Evelyn
BC 'we invite you to reject it, there is no evidence that can support his conclusion' referring to alleged sexual nature of crime.

Rupert Evelyn
BC referring to question from pros about VT planning to have sex with JY before the 17th. it's important to the pros case says BC

Rupert Evelyn
BC talking 'suggestion that this was a sexually motivated attack'

Rupert Evelyn
BC 'how on earth could he have know she'd be there?'

Rupert Evelyn
Clegg asks 'is there any evidence to contradict the proposition that she invited him. The answer is absolutely none'.

 

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Rupert Evelyn
Jo had taken off her boots, outer coat, green fleece when she got home. And she might have taken off a sock, William Clegg points out

she might have taken off a sock? Just the one? FFS! What planet is Clegg on?

And what about

Def: Missing sock #JoYeates? She may have taken it off because she had a hole in her boot.

 

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Rupert Evelyn
Jo had taken off her boots, outer coat, green fleece when she got home. And she might have taken off a sock, William Clegg points out

she might have taken off a sock? Just the one? FFS! What planet is Clegg on?

skymartinbrunt martinbrunt
Def: Missing sock #JoYeates? She may have taken it off because she had a hole in her boot.

 

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@stevenmorris20
steven morris
"Clegg asks the jury for a verdict that reflects the evidence it has heard...even if it disappoints waiting media."
22 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

@stevenmorris20
steven morris
"Clegg is going to pose some questions - first how did Tabak get inside Jo Yeates' flat? Did she invite him in?"
21 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

@stevenmorris20
steven morris
"Clegg says prosecution has a problem - there was no forced entry at her flat."
21 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

@stevenmorris20
steven morris
"Clegg says Jo Yeates wouldn't have left front door open - it was one of coldest nights of the decade. Sensible conclusion - she let him in."
19 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

@stevenmorris20
steven morris
"Clegg claims this "destroys" idea that the killing was pre-planned. No evidence Tabak was "stalking round the streets""
18 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

@stevenmorris20
steven morris
"Tabak closely watching his barrister as he makes his closing speech. Jo Yeates' family and boyfriend in front row of public gallery."
14 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

@stevenmorris20
steven morris
"Clegg says the defence's proposition is that Jo Yeates did invite Tabak in. Claims this a "painful blow" to the prosecution case."
12 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

@stevenmorris20
steven morris
"Clegg now addressing prosecution claim that the attack was sexually motivated. "Where's the evidence?" Clegg asks."
11 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

@stevenmorris20
steven morris
"Clegg says Tabak and Yeates had hardly seen each other before. Reminds them of pathologist Nat Cary's opinion..."
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@stevenmorris20
steven morris
"Cary said it was "pure speculation" that this was a sex attack. Yeates' jeans were buttoned up. She was not "interfered with", says Clegg."
8 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

@stevenmorris20
steven morris
"Tabak's defence addresses Jo Yeates' top being rucked up over bra. Pathologist Cary said it could have happened when body moved, Clegg says."
6 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

@stevenmorris20
steven morris
"Clegg asks jury to reject the idea this was a sexually motivated killing."
4 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

@stevenmorris20
steven morris
"QC Clegg, for Tabak, now addressing issue of time of the killing. Pros says it happened at about 8.50pm. Tabak's case is that it was later."
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@stevenmorris20
steven morris
"QC Clegg, for Tabak, now addressing issue of time of the killing. Pros says it happened at about 8.50pm. Tabak's case is that it was later."
4 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

@stevenmorris20
steven morris
"Clegg says Tabak could not have known Joanna Yeates was "home alone" that evening."
1 minute ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

 

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Rupert Evelyn
BC says next question is when he got in. 8.45 or 9.35? the independent evidence is in favour of 9.35 but can't exclude 8.45

Rupert Evelyn
BC no evidence to support some of the 'fairly wild' suggestions that he got into the flat any other way.

Rupert Evelyn
BC invites jury to say that the independent evidence supports VT's account of how he came to be in the flat

Rupert Evelyn
BC says 'Vincent Tabak could not possibly have known she was home alone'

Rupert Evelyn
BC 'if it did happen the way VT had said he could not possible have known Greg had gone away for the weekend before he went into her flat'

Rupert Evelyn
Correction. Bill Clegg QC is sitting on the desk delivering his closing speech, only just noticed.

Rupert Evelyn
BC says the prosecution is 'sadly lacking' from what they set out to try to prove.

 

[Sammyme]

It will be interesting to see if the jury is impressionable enough - stupid enough? - to be taken in by some of the brazen deflection tactics on show here.

 

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@skynewsgatherer
Harriet Tolputt
"Clegg says that the evidence shows the prosecution case to be "sadly lacking" from what it set out to prove."
12 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

@skynewsgatherer
Harriet Tolputt
"Clegg says that the fact Joanna had printed off a recipe supports Tabak's claim that she was in the kitchen when he passed the window."
10 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

@skynewsgatherer
Harriet Tolputt
"Clegg says Joanna took off her apron and put it by the door when she opened it to let Tabak in."
9 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

@skynewsgatherer
Harriet Tolputt
"Mr Clegg tells the jury that the expert evidence favours Tabak's version of when Joanna was killed. Although exact time of death is unknown"
4 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

 

[Curious Alice]

I can't believe the antics of this Clegg. It's as if she opened the door, therefore he isn't guilty - she is. For crying out loud! She doesn't even have to have opened the door and invited him in. She could well have opened the door to let the cat out or to call the cat in.

Great point about the cat, and I too find it a shabby and rather insulting defence to infer that she is at fault for allowing him access.