GUILTY UK - Joe McCann, multiple victims kidnapped & assaulted, April / May 2019

[CoverMeCagney]

Oh ok. That's better then.

What makes you so sure that he'll die before the age of 64?

Well... he's a gutless coward who will probably try to kill himself. Failing that there will be big kudos on offer to anyone who bumps him off. Either way I can't see him surviving 30 years, wouldn't be at all surprised if something happens in the next few weeks. And the sooner the better in my opinion.

 

[Scorpiette]

Was that in one of the articles?

I can't find the quote, but it was widely reported that's what he said to one of his victims.
DBM... duplicate post.

 

[Scorpiette]

DBM

 

[tresir2012]

I'm upset about the sentence. I don't think 30 years is long enough. He should have been locked away for good.

Plus this



bbm

Does that mean the 30 year sentence could also be halved?? I don't understand why sentences are halved. I mean what is the point then, giving a sentence of xx years when they get out after half the time served anyway?

I was just about to ask the same thing. So could he be out in 15 years?

ETA I see it has been explained as a minimum of 30 years.

 

[Legally Bland]

I was just about to ask the same thing. So could he be out in 15 years?

ETA I see it has been explained as a minimum of 30 years.

The 'serving half your sentence' thing doesn't apply to life sentences. He's got a minimum of 30 years unless the law changes.

ETA I've just seen your ETA.

 

[tresir2012]

I can't find the quote, but it was widely reported that's what he said to one of his victims.
DBM... duplicate post.

Legally just posted it

Yes. No idea if it's true or he was just saying it as a threat. I find it believable.

"He said he wanted a lift. He said, 'I don't want to hurt you. I have got a knife. I have killed somebody'."

Woman, 71, 'punched in the face before being raped in car'

 

[Legally Bland]

No idea what this is about, but he's been in court today:

Central Criminal Court 12 T20197142
Joseph Mccann
Details: For Application - Hearing finished for JOSEPH MCCANN - 10:27
https://www.thelawpages.com/court-hearings-lists/Central-Criminal-Court.php

 

[Alyce]

SITTING AT 10:00 am
For Application
T20197142 MCCANN Joseph
01MP0109219
CLONM Crown Prosecution Service

PVL, APPLICATION UNDER THE SLIP RULE

 

[Alyce]

Purpose of ‘slip rule’ under CPR 40.12 is to ensure orders reflect court’s intention (Santos-Albert v Ochi)
News

Archive • 31.05.2018 •

Found in:
Dispute Resolution,
Personal Injury,
Property Disputes
Dispute Resolution analysis: It is regrettably common for an order, whether drawn up by the parties or the court, to contain accidental errors or omissions. Frequently, these are as simple as a party’s name being spelt incorrectly, the claimant and defendant being the wrong way around, or a date or numerical figure being incorrect. Fortunately, the so-called slip rule, contained in CPR 40.12, permits the court at any time to ‘correct an accidental slip or omission in a judgment or order’. This is usually a relatively straightforward and uncontroversial process.

https://www.lexisnexis.com/uk/lexis...lect_court_s_intention__Santos_Albert_v_Ochi_

 

[Legally Bland]

Purpose of ‘slip rule’ under CPR 40.12 is to ensure orders reflect court’s intention (Santos-Albert v Ochi)
News

Archive • 31.05.2018 •

Found in:
Dispute Resolution,
Personal Injury,
Property Disputes
Dispute Resolution analysis: It is regrettably common for an order, whether drawn up by the parties or the court, to contain accidental errors or omissions. Frequently, these are as simple as a party’s name being spelt incorrectly, the claimant and defendant being the wrong way around, or a date or numerical figure being incorrect. Fortunately, the so-called slip rule, contained in CPR 40.12, permits the court at any time to ‘correct an accidental slip or omission in a judgment or order’. This is usually a relatively straightforward and uncontroversial process.

https://www.lexisnexis.com/uk/lexis...lect_court_s_intention__Santos_Albert_v_Ochi_

Thanks, so they're just tidying up the paperwork.

 

[Alyce]

Thanks, so they're just tidying up the paperwork.

Yes, looks like it. For one awful moment I thought he was trying for a reduction on something !

 

[jaejae]

Here is a victim story in this case:

Victim of serial rapist tells of her ordeal

 

[dotr]

Here is a victim story in this case:

Victim of serial rapist tells of her ordeal

Excellent video, the victim (really a victor) is a very classy and brave lady!

 

[dalsglen]

When we met, my husband lived in watford. He says he recognises this guy(a stupid post relationship breakdown weekend ended up with him sacked from govermental security and sniffing here).

London has gone crazy recently, glasgow used to have that stab capital rap for and I love that city more than anything, but when my first faced nursery I had to take my kids out to the boring scottish borders to grow up. Any glasgow folks, please don't take that as an insult. It IS home to me (east fifer), when the kids are grown, I'm back

 

[Barbieshell]

Absolute evil , hopefully he meets Mr Shanky in jail.

 

[dotr]

Absolute evil *******, hopefully he meets Mr Shanky in jail.

Lol, Mr Shanky!

 

[Barbieshell]

Lol, Mr Shanky!

 

[Legally Bland]

I haven't read this yet, but there's a Ministry of Justice review into his probation/releases etc.

https://assets.publishing.service.g...data/file/870617/sfo-review-joseph-mccann.pdf

 

[Alyce]

Many thanks for that Legally. I've had a skim through, particularly to see the info re the 2019 release date and time, but will have a more thorough read later.

This makes Line of Duty seem quite tame by comparison - with regard to the amount of initials used

 

[Legally Bland]

Many thanks for that Legally. I've had a skim through, particularly to see the info re the 2019 release date and time, but will have a more thorough read later.

This makes Line of Duty seem quite tame by comparison - with regard to the amount of initials used

I don't think it gives the exact date, just Feb. Unless this appointment always happens on the same date as release. It reads like his residence had already been agreed:

OM9 attempted unsuccessfully to secure a place at an AP for JMc and instead, plans were made to place JMc with family in Buckinghamshire again on his release.

17. On 15 February 2019 JMc reported for his first appointment post-release at the Buckinghamshire probation office.

[...]

50.After JMc’s release from his second sentence in February 2019, there was a final missed opportunity to recall him.
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OM = Offender Manager
AP = Approved Premises