UK - Lucy Letby - Post-Conviction Statutory Inquiry

[Tortoise]

Dr Gibbs denied telling the mother of Child I that her baby needed to have a post-mortem in order to clear the hospital of wrongdoing.

He said he “was sure the mother” thought he said that “so he was not going to argue with her”, but said he would never tell the family of a patient that they were being forced into having a post-mortem.

BBM

I thought this was a little odd when I read it yesterday and so I've checked the transcript. This reporting [by the Telegraph] is erroneous, and it bears no semblance to what Dr Gibbs said.

Pages 76 - 78. 01/10/2024 – Transcript of Week 4 Day 2 | The Thirlwall Inquiry

"Now, she also said I forced her into having a postmortem. I can understand why she felt like that. In the circumstances where a death is unexplained and you need to refer the death to the Coroner, you don't -- parental consent doesn't come into it as far as I understand and postmortem has to take place if the Coroner agrees and that's what I was trying to tell the Mother. It's -- one of the worst things as a paediatrician is those occasions when you have to deal with a parent who's just lost their baby or child and they are in utter despair and it is very difficult to talk about the child or baby having a postmortem in those circumstances. I think most parents or some parents would hate me for bringing that subject up."

 

[Tortoise]

Dr Lambie said she was also concerned about a “very, very unusual incident” involving another infant that happened up to a fortnight before the death of Child A.
She said: “It was something I have never experienced before or since. I was already quite anxious going into Child A and B because I had that particular unusual event.”
The incident did not feature in Letby’s criminal case but Dr Lambie had made a statement to police about the matter, the inquiry was told.

Nurses checked rotas for ‘common denominator’, Letby inquiry hears

Lucy Letby is serving 15 whole-life orders after she was convicted of murdering seven infants and attempting to murder seven others.

www.standard.co.uk

 

[Tortoise]

Also at the inquiry, Dr Huw Mayberry, who worked alongside Letby in 2016 as a registrar, told the inquiry he did not believe CCTV cameras would have stopped her from harming infants.

He said: "I'm not sure it would have dealt with a lot of the ways in which she killed and it may have given false reassurance that things were right."

It would be "hard to tell" from CCTV that someone was injecting air into babies' bloodstreams, he said.

Nurses who worked with Lucy Letby checked rotas for 'common denominator' after baby deaths, inquiry hears

Dr Rachel Lambie, who was a trainee doctor at the Countess of Chester Hospital, said the idea that a member of staff had been killing babies had become part of nurses' "thought processes" by September 2015.

news.sky.com

 

[Jazmania]

BBM

I thought this was a little odd when I read it yesterday and so I've checked the transcript. This reporting [by the Telegraph] is erroneous, and it bears no semblance to what Dr Gibbs said.

Pages 76 - 78. 01/10/2024 – Transcript of Week 4 Day 2 | The Thirlwall Inquiry

"Now, she also said I forced her into having a postmortem. I can understand why she felt like that. In the circumstances where a death is unexplained and you need to refer the death to the Coroner, you don't -- parental consent doesn't come into it as far as I understand and postmortem has to take place if the Coroner agrees and that's what I was trying to tell the Mother. It's -- one of the worst things as a paediatrician is those occasions when you have to deal with a parent who's just lost their baby or child and they are in utter despair and it is very difficult to talk about the child or baby having a postmortem in those circumstances. I think most parents or some parents would hate me for bringing that subject up."

This seems to be a common theme. Most recent reports by the mainstream media of what has been said in the trial and inquiry actually bear little resemblence to what has actually been said in the trial and inquiry.

 

[JosieJo]

Hospital bosses had 'already made up their mind' that Lucy Letby couldn't be responsible for killing babies before any proper investigation had been carried out, a senior doctor said today.

Dr Murthy Saladi told the public inquiry managers didn't want to call in police because the Countess of Chester Hospital would end up 'in the media spotlight' and mothers would be deterred from having their babies there.

Lucy Letby's bosses had 'made up their mind' she wasn't killing babies

Dr Murthy Saladi told the public inquiry managers didn't want to call in police because the Countess of Chester Hospital would end up 'in the media spotlight' .

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[CatsnChickens]

This is quite worrying suggests huge cover up planned

Lucy Letby hospital NHS trust deleted documents, tribunal told

The ex-chief executive of the hospital trust where Lucy Letby worked is suing it at a tribunal.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Marantz4250b]

Today is three years to the day since LL entered her "not guilty" pleas at the start of her trial.

I remember it well - I was in the bar at Newcastle train station when it was on the news.

 

[Parker Knoll]

IIRC you were in your “ betting my house “ phase M !