UK- Major incident declared in Southport after multiple stabbings, 29 July 2024

[seasideForest]

I’m local and the “protest” outside the mosque was being organised on social media on Monday evening - I was reporting posts on FB and X for hate speech. It had absolutely zero to do with the man arrested during the vigil on Tuesday night who was in possession of a flick knife, not wielding it.

The violence was arranged on the day of the attack and the majority of the people involved were not local. I’m not saying local yobs didn’t join in, but it had nothing to do with the vigil or the arrest as suggested.

Thanks for posting. It's good to hear a local speaking up.

 

[crespo29]

BBM

By the end of the day of the murders, police had announced to the public that the suspect was born in Cardiff, and attempted to get on top of all the lies being told by a certain segment of social media (he was not a refugee, nor a migrant who came on a boat, not on a special watch list, etc, etc, etc). They said from nearly the very beginning they did not believe it was a terrorist attack.

What is allegedly being kept secret? It's fairly standard for law enforcement to ask for random speculation to stop since it can be detrimental to ongoing investigations. They've done the exact same thing in several high profile cases, like Nicola Bulley.

All of these riots have nothing to do with this tragic situation. It's an excuse for people to exercise their racist and xenophobic views, because the suspect is a brown guy. Even though he was born in Cardiff, he is "other".

MOO

13:30, Police announced that they had arrested someone with a knife. 17:00, they said that the person arrested was local but was originally from Cardiff. Police said that the incident is not currently being treated as terror-related and they were not looking for anyone else in connection with the incident. The police urged people to be careful about what they share online and not to speculate about this incident. As if that was going to stop speculation, look at earlier posts on these threads. The Home secretary then said that information online was incorrect, but did not say what that information was! It overseas media and social media giving false information that caused rumours to spread. Eventually a name was given by the judge, this should have been done at once, imo.

 

[MrsWatson]

The Home secretary then said that information online was incorrect, but did not say what that information was!

Perhaps because it is an ongoing investigation; what if information released results in subjudice in a court case? They must also tread carefully whenever a minor is involved.

I'd like to see the case go forward to court without all these distractions that have absolutely nothing to do with the case.

MOO

 

[sunspun]

Perhaps because it is an ongoing investigation; what if information released results in subjudice in a court case? They must also tread carefully whenever a minor is involved.

I'd like to see the case go forward to court without all these distractions that have absolutely nothing to do with the case.

MOO

So do all cases not go into subjudice at some point? What determines which do or don't? (American here, where AFAIK, we don't have that... unless it's similar to what we'd call a gag order.)

 

[MrsWatson]

So do all cases not go into subjudice at some point? What determines which do or don't? (American here, where AFAIK, we don't have that... unless it's similar to what we'd call a gag order.)

The rule applies from the moment a charge has been made in a criminal case or a claim has been issued in a civil proceeding until the matter is resolved or the trial concluded. The doctrine is particularly stringent with regards to media coverage; there are strict limitations on what journalists can report about a case in progress, as biased reporting could sway the opinions of potential jurors and threaten the impartiality of the trial process.


From

Sub Judice, What Is It And What Does It Mean?

What does Sub judice mean? A clear explanation of the legal term Sub judice, with examples and context.

www.vocabulaw.co.uk

 

[Cryptic]

A significant portion of X still don't believe he isn't a Muslim or that he's only 17 and that's even with knowing his name.

That is so frustrating.

The criminal's background is Rwandan- a country with a very significant Christian majority. There does not appear to be any evidence that the attack was religiously motivated and perpetrated by a convert.

As a result, statistics dictate that the perpetrator is very likely..... Christian.

 

[Dotta]

As a result, statistics dictate that the perpetrator is very likely..... Christian.

IMO
Religion has NOTHING to do with this repugnant crime.

But twisted mind of the alleged murderer of innocent children.

JMO