UK - Major incident, gunshots heard, Plymouth, 12 August 2021

[jslk]

He did not just kill women.

I don't believe we have had verification of the victims yet, but regardless that's not what I was suggesting. A terrorist may be motivated to kill by a political belief and I would suggest that the beliefs of incels are political.

 

[Mellowmelly]

This is terrible, if you want to kill yourself fair enough, but why kill innocent people aswell... and a child ! My thoughts are with the families.

 

[RusselSprout]

Yes it makes no sense to me. What did he want, notoriety?

 

[RusselSprout]

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This article says mum, brother and sister were victims.

 

[Rosegold68]

Think his YouTube channel has been removed

 

[Rosegold68]

Yes that article also says he had mental health problems his family were struggling to get help with. It also alluded to him being autistic ( that came from a friend so who knows)

 

[Nikynoo]

Victims names have not been confirmed. JD had a fire arms licence.
Plymouth shooting: Gunman's victims included 'very young girl' - BBC News

 

[Nikynoo]

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This article says mum, brother and sister were victims.

Lady at first address was known to him (could be related but not confirmed). Not known whether any other victims were known to him.

 

[Nikynoo]

'Domestic' related incident that has spilled onto the street. Plymouth shooting: Gunman's victims included 'very young girl' - BBC News

 

[Kitkat28]

Sadly there’s no great surprise to find he’s an incel with far-right views.

 

[Nikynoo]

Sadly there’s no great surprise to find he’s an incel with far-right views.

That is not what the police are saying.

 

[chimpface]

That is not what the police are saying.

What are the police saying?

 

[Kitkat28]

That is not what the police are saying.

So was he just “joking” when he made such statements in videos he posted online?
Gunman boasts 'I'm a Terminator' in vids as he's revealed as 'virgin loner'

 

[Skigh]

What are the police saying?

From Sky News:

Plymouth shooting: Police say 'very young girl' among the five shot dead by Jake Davison

Although saying he did not "clarify" himself as an "incel", Davison talked about "people similar to me have had nothing but themselves".

Chief Constable Sawyer said police are "not considering terrorism or a relationship with any far-right group or any such other group" but will be investigating his computer hard drive.

 

[Kitkat28]

You don’t have to be a member of any group though to have far-right leanings and ideologies.

 

[terabethia]

Hopefully this will lead to incel-motivated violence to be taken seriously. It's a dangerous community. A community of misogynistic, self-loathing, entitled men who think women and feminism are the enemy. Elliot Rogers was lauded as a hero amongst incel groups

 

[jslk]

If a non white person 'inspired' by IS had done this, it would be classified as terrorism without a second's hesitation. I'm struggling to see the difference, aside from the obvious.

 

[Skigh]

Mother of 'fat, ugly, virgin' Plymouth gunman, 22,'tried to get him mental health support' | Daily Mail Online

 

[Alyce]

Police believe the first female victim and Davison were "known" to each other, and said there was a view there was a familial relationship.

Chief Constable, Mr Sawyer said he did not yet know of any formal relationship between Davison and the other victims



Plymouth shooting: Everything we know as police confirm six dead in Keyham

 

[Alyce]

Gunman Jake Davison, 22, shot and killed a woman in a house

Mr Davison then left that address, entered Biddick Drive where he immediately shot then killed a very young girl, he also shot and killed the male relative of that girl.

"Further along Biddick Drive he aimed and shot at two local residents - a man and a woman - who received significant but we understand, at present, not life-threatening injuries."

"From there, Mr Davison entered adjacent parkland where he immediately shot a man who died at the scene," Mr Sawyer said.

"Thereafter he moved to Henderson Place where he shot a woman." The woman died in hospital later.



Plymouth shooting: Everything we know as police confirm six dead in Keyham