UK - Major incident, gunshots heard, Plymouth, 12 August 2021

[Legally Bland]

Lee Martyn, 43, and daughter Sophie were among five people slaughtered as Jake Davison opened fire on a quiet cul-de-sac yesterday.



Lee Martyn and daughter Sophie were killed in a shooting spree in Plymouth

Tributes to innocent girl, 3, & dad, 43, gunned down by Plymouth shooter

 

[Sarahlou]

Lee Martyn, 43, and daughter Sophie were among five people slaughtered as Jake Davison opened fire on a quiet cul-de-sac yesterday.

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Lee Martyn and daughter Sophie were killed in a shooting spree in Plymouth

Tributes to innocent girl, 3, & dad, 43, gunned down by Plymouth shooter

This makes me so angry and sad! Heartbreaking.

 

[Neurotripsy]

Here's his Reddit account, where he was recently whining about the fact that a "weird gay doctor" was the first one to touch his bits instead of a sixteen-year-old girl. :/

EDIT: They just suspended his account, hopefully someone was able to archive it.

 

[KarenUK]

This makes me so angry and sad! Heartbreaking.

Its all horrible enough, but who could point a shotgun at a 3 year old and pull the trigger

 

[Silverlink]

Here's his Reddit account, where he was recently whining about the fact that a "weird gay doctor" was the first one to touch his bits instead of a sixteen-year-old girl. :/

EDIT: They just suspended his account, hopefully someone was able to archive it.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210804133102/https://www.reddit.com/user/jake3572/

 

[SpursGyal]

Its all horrible enough, but who could point a shotgun at a 3 year old and pull the trigger

This, I can’t understand how you can point a gun at an innocent child you don’t know and shoot them.

 

[nothinonyou]

https://web.archive.org/web/20210804133102/https://www.reddit.com/user/jake3572/

"how do incels feel about their mother". Him: "can't stand her."

 

[RusselSprout]

I'd never heard if an incel before the Elliott Rodger mass murder.
I'm not labeling JD as an incel but here is a forum for incels which will give you some insight, if you are interested - incels.net
It's pretty shocking.

 

[RusselSprout]

'had his gun and certificate returned to him last month after they had been confiscated by police in September 2020 following an allegation of assault.'

Davison’s gun licence revealed to have been returned month before mass murder, as victims named

 

[HollyHunter9]

I'd never heard if an incel before the Elliott Rodger mass murder.
I'm not labeling JD as an incel but here is a forum for incels which will give you some insight, if you are interested - incels.net
It's pretty shocking.

I'd never heard of incels until today! I'm googling it now to try and educate myself but it sounds very hateful.

 

[Legally Bland]

IOPC statement.
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IOPC to investigate Devon and Cornwall Police over Jake Davison’s possession of a shotgun and shotgun certificate

Published
13 Aug 2021

The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) has decided to investigate Devon and Cornwall Police’s decision-making in relation to Jake Davison’s possession of a shotgun and shotgun certificate.

The investigation follows a mandatory referral from the force which contains preliminary information that Mr Davison’s shotgun certificate and a shotgun were returned to him in early July this year.

The certificate and shotgun had been removed from Mr Davison by police in December 2020 following an allegation of assault in September 2020.

IOPC regional director David Ford said:

“We can confirm that this morning we received a mandatory referral from Devon and Cornwall Police relating to yesterday’s tragic events in Plymouth in which six people lost their lives. Our thoughts remain with all of the many people who will be severely affected. The referral related to yesterday’s events as well as police contact with Jake Davison prior to the incident, including the force’s role and actions regarding firearms licensing.

“After assessment of the referral we have determined we will carry out an independent investigation focusing on Jake Davison’s firearms licensing history and its impact on the tragic events of Thursday 12 August. We will examine what police actions were taken and when, the rationale behind police decision-making, and whether relevant law, policy and procedures were followed concerning Mr Davison’s possession of a shotgun. The investigation will also consider whether the force had any information concerning Mr Davison’s mental health and if so, if this information was appropriately considered.

“It appears the force’s response to reports of the shootings was very prompt and having reviewed information currently available, we are not intending to investigate the Devon and Cornwall Police response to the shootings. This will be kept under review as more information emerges. However, the investigation will explore whether there was any causal link between the arrival of police and Mr Davison apparently shooting himself.”

It has not yet been established whether the shotgun returned to Mr Davison was used in yesterday’s shootings.

IOPC to investigate Devon and Cornwall Police over Jake Davison’s possession of a shotgun and shotgun certificate | Independent Office for Police Conduct

 

[ST3anonymous]

https://web.archive.org/web/20210804133102/https://www.reddit.com/user/jake3572/

Makes for very grim reading.

This is an awful crime and it goes a lot deeper when you think about the amount of witnesses to this. Right outside their homes too. I feel sick thinking about what they saw.

 

[Silverlink]

I'd never heard if an incel before the Elliott Rodger mass murder.
I'm not labeling JD as an incel but here is a forum for incels which will give you some insight, if you are interested - incels.net
It's pretty shocking.

I'd never heard of incels until today! I'm googling it now to try and educate myself but it sounds very hateful.

Incel by Naama Kates is an interesting podcast if you want to learn more about them.

‎Incel on Apple Podcasts

 

[MrsWatson]

This is a very interesting article about incels.

The Rage of the Incels

 

[RusselSprout]

I feel this should be treated as a terrorism crime. He terrorised a neighbourhood, they will be terrorised for years to come. Especially youngsters, how can they get their head round this?

Here a case in Scotland, incel kid was found guilty under the terrorism act

Gabrielle Friel: Man guilty of weapons haul terrorism charge

 

[MrsWatson]

I wouldn't be surprised if it is determined to be an act of terrorism, since it clearly is. But it's still early days, and he's dead. No rush, I hope for a very thorough investigation to help prevent more tragic cases like this. It's very frightening to think that there is a whole new culture of hate.

Off topic, Russel Spout, your name is charming. I would rather stick a fork in my eye vs eating a sprout, but your name is cute.

 

[MrsWatson]

And the other big issue, of course, is why did he have a gun returned to him?

Not one person in LE raised an eyebrow over him getting his gun back?

 

[JuicyLucy]

And the other big issue, of course, is why did he have a gun returned to him?

Not one person in LE raised an eyebrow over him getting his gun back?

Well, and why did he need a gun at all? Farmers need guns (arguably). People who shoot as a sport at a gun club need guns (but don't need to take them home from the gun club).

Apprentices at marine engineering companies don't need guns. At all.

 

[Mercsw]

The police are rightly under investigation. Why have they given a gun license to a loner kid with long mental health issues, links to a terrorist group responsible for previous mass shootings, and who has no obvious need for a gun. Worse still, he had it taken off him just last year…and they gave it back!

i agree with others, this has to be seen as a terrorist attack and we need to be seeing who else out there is on those forums and groups blaming the world for their problems

 

[Rusty Braincells]

Absolutely, perhaps I have been naive, but I thought you needed a specific reason to own a shotgun, not simply to be over 18 and not have a criminal record.

Although this type of crime is very rare, there seems to be a gap in the shotgun licensing legislation which needs to be closed. There was no reason for this guy living in the suburbs with the job he had to have a gun and he should not have had one.

This is not the first case I have heard of where a shotgun licence has been removed and then returned and a murder or murders have occurred. There seems to be an issue with that system.

We must tighten the laws further if they allow people to have 365 days a year, 24 hours a day access to these weapons, and those people don’t need them for their jobs.