Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #13

[annpats]

Why didn’t they just tell us this in the beginning

I suppose the police didn't want to break data protection rules regarding her medical issues.....quite not sure why they've done it now though.
Doesn't change the fact she's missing - whatever she suffers from.

 

[Mo100]

I had no idea...does it cause depression? This news is so sad

It is horrible for some of us. The drop in hormones causes all sorts of symptoms, depression, anxiety, loss of self esteem, insecurity, hair loss, hot flushes, weight gain,suicidal thoughts, irregular heavy bleeding that can even go through clothes making it difficult to work. For most women, HRT can resolve this but it takes several months to work & some women can't take it depending on other health conditions. Many have to stop working altogether. The drop in oxytocin is the hormone that makes you care about other people. I went through a period of wanting to run away & leave my family & it was all because of hormones. Thankfully I am now on HRT.

 

[themagiceye]

They could have stopped all this speculation by revealing that she was vulnerable, right from the outset.

A vulnerable status requires corroboration. Corroboration requires the exclusion of collusion.

 

[Waddles]

I don’t think they needed to release this information. I can see how it may stop speculation but it’s so personal. IMO.

That’s true but maybe something will come of it, and it may possibly be the thought behind it - to raise awareness to perimenopause and menopause and unique emotional and psychological effects and toll

 

[pineapple23]

They could have stopped all this speculation by revealing that she was vulnerable, right from the outset.

I wonder what PF is thinking right now.

 

[Marathon88]

The BBC specifically said her issues with alcohol were linked to menopause. Missing Nicola Bulley had alcohol issues, say police - BBC News

Many women find the menopause quite frankly horrific and suffer terribly.

So sad to read this update.

 

[Notascreenname]

The black eye on PA is now beginning to make sense, along with his first plea to NB to come home to the girls… so sad. JMO

What black eye? Link plz

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

LE has now indicated that NB was deemed high risk "following the information that was provided to the police by her partner Paul and based on a number of specific vulnerabilities that we were made aware of" LE themselves have opened up speculation in regard to personal reasons NB may have disappeared.

Additionally, a reporter has indicated they are aware of what those vulnerabilities are, so we do now know they exist. The fact that LE has specified they exist but is not addressing them further is certainly not going to discourage speculation as to what may have happened. Had they said nothing in that regard, it would be status quo here at WS, but based on their comments, we are opening up discussion of the possibility that NB may have disappeared voluntarily or possibly committed suicide.

Discussion and speculation of what those vulnerabilities may consist of or what they may have resulted in (i.e. voluntarily missing or suicide) is allowed but at all times members must remain respectful and refrain from unnecessary graphic details of what you think may have happened.

Any questions, please use the Report feature to ask and we will try to get back to you as soon as possible.

While I was typing ^^ it seems LE was talking

Just adding after the fact that LE has obviously now released that those vulnerabilities are related specifically to alcohol and menopause.

But you folks already know that.

 

[Mo100]

Absolutely, the menopause is hellish, never to be underestimated.

Agreed, I have experienced horrendous symptoms.

 

[cottonweaver]

One would also think given that this info was provided by PA, they would be in agreement...

why, what's happened? Is PA now not in agreement ?

 

[IKnowNowt]

As I've said my sister turned to alcohol due to postnatal depression that wasn't dealt with. She used drink to self medicate. Alcoholics hide drink and can appear sober cos their bodies get used to high intakes. My sister got very aggressive with my brother in law and he hid it for a long time but Police were called on several occasions. A lot of people mentioned that when PA was interviewed on Channel 5 it looked like he had a mark under his eye.. What I do find strange is that PA said the house was very organised on the morning she disappeared, which (from my experience with my sister who wouldn't cope with normal household chores if intoxicated) says to me NB was having a good day. I'm also somewhat surprised that PA would have let her drive with the children if he thought she wasn't fit to drive. I know my brother in law started to take the children to school because he didn't trust my sister to do it and in fairness she wouldn't have driven anyway, the kids were her life, which appears to be the case with NB. So I suppose I find it puzzling still how this would have affected her near the river. She was obviously sober enough to text her friend about a play date etc and to sign into a teams meeting. I still somehow can't see her being in the water but JMO.

I've lost two close family members to accidental death in separate incidents. Both were chronically alcohol dependent. Neither were intoxicated at the time of their deaths.

 

[SuzyQ70]

It is horrible for some of us. The drop in hormones causes all sorts of symptoms, depression, anxiety, loss of self esteem, insecurity, hair loss, hot flushes, weight gain,suicidal thoughts, irregular heavy bleeding that can even go through clothes making it difficult to work. For most women, HRT can resolve this but it takes several months to work & some women can't take it depending on other health conditions. Many have to stop working altogether. The drop in oxytocin is the hormone that makes you care about other people. I went through a period of wanting to run away & leave my family & it was all because of hormones. Thankfully I am now on HRT.

Thank God for HRT, it's a life changer!

 

[martinwatts5]

In my opinion, unfortunately the signs now only point one way - the deep water sign, no witnesses, no slip marks and now the comment about ‘vulnerability’.

 

[themagiceye]

Absolutely, the menopause is hellish, never to be underestimated.

Assuming that her alcohol issue was directly the result of the menopause, just because that's what has been said/is being reported, is very short-sighted.

 

[pineapple23]

The BBC specifically said her issues with alcohol were linked to menopause. Missing Nicola Bulley had alcohol issues, say police - BBC News

Many women find the menopause quite frankly horrific and suffer terribly.

So sad to read this update.

My memory went. It was so bad, I thought it was early dementia.

 

[kittythehare]

I don’t think they needed to release this information. I can see how it may stop speculation but it’s so personal. IMO.

I think they had to.

Even if for mob control purposes and there are mobs. And they are doing actual harm.

The truth is that up to now everybody has been looking for a healthy happy woman in the full of her health. Making rational decisions. In full control of her life.

She wasn't there.
She was not in that happy place.
People needed to be told. IMO
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[annpats]

I doubt she was under the influence of alcohol if she drove the children to school.

And no evidence of an empty alcohol bottle in the fields, by the river, or the bench.

Nicola may well have been 100% sober that morning.

 

[wens67]

I've lost two close family members to accidental death in separate incidents. Both were chronically alcohol dependent. Neither were intoxicated at the time of their deaths.

I'm so sorry to hear that x

 

[NextSprint]

I don’t think they needed to release this information. I can see how it may stop speculation but it’s so personal. IMO.

It might help the next alcoholic, or woman struggling with menopause. It might help their families to give their relative the help they need. We need to be more honest as a society about our struggles, IMO.

 

[Gavlar1985]

Hypothetically speaking, alcohol could certainly have impaired her judgement on that day, which IMO is why the police believe she came to end up in the water.

JMO but I think this explains NB’s overly active social media activity too - unfortunately it’s often the way with those who are suffering so much.

Just a horrible incident all round for the family. No doubt they hoped that she’d have been found by now, so that this wouldn’t have needed to have come out.