Firstsnow4
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Here I thinkthe officer spoke about garstang lane... does she mean allotment lane.. as cant find any Garstang lane ??????
Here I thinkthe officer spoke about garstang lane... does she mean allotment lane.. as cant find any Garstang lane ??????
My dad fell into a river as an 18 year old lad who could swim well, he'll tell anyone who listens not to mess about near the water, he nearly drowned that day and it wasn't some careering rapids he fell into. Only lived because two local guys hear his screams and dived in to save him. You can absolutely get dragged along and get tangled in all the stuff at the bottom. My dad also didn't lose any clothing while he was in the waterShe’s seems like a pretty fit individual and to be carried downstream seems unlikely. The river is not that wide and if she did fall in I feel like she could get out or grab hold of foliage, tree branches etc.
I thought so too, I think she only looked at her notes once or twice. Very articulate.Gosh, excellence in action.
She took my breath away.
I belong to several missing person's groups on FB and rivers / sea / lakes seem to be the most common areas where missing are recovered fromAs someone who has attempted suicide and went to the effort of researching methods that are used. Water is quite an unusual way to attempt, drowning is one of the worst ways to go. It'd be even more unusual to go for an area of water that wouldn't even come up to your waist. Obviously cold shock is a thing, but you'd be very much relying on that to take over or your natural instinct would likely force you to surface/stand.
JMO.
I can see Garstrong road, not lane but I'm not the best at this.
I imagine that it's a bias because it's harder to find someone than other methods and thus they are reported as missing. Drowning was the method in only 3.5% of suicides in 2021.I belong to several missing person's groups on FB and rivers / sea / lakes seem to be the most common areas where missing are recovered from
Quite right. I was forgetting the temperature of the water.You underestimate the affect of cold water immersion, what it does to a body and the current movement.
The thing I struggle with is what they say about the dog being dry and no harness . IMO that means the dog didn't have anything on its body to get caught on sticks etc , I know brambles and things can get caught on fur but you wouldn't think it would be a sudden jump up to save the dog from it . She could have lost her balance yes that is highly likely . In my little head I imagine something serious would be happening with the dog that a quick reaction was needed and she couldn't stop herself from going in , as the dog was dry I assume Willow was never in the water . Could she have tripped over the dog or been knocked over , as I know I have by my own . Like I've said before on here I just can't get my head round it . All MOOI just find it strange no item of clothing or trace has been found in the water yet (that we know of) (meaning a hat if she had one on which would surely have come off if this was the case!) it doesn’t look like a fast flowing river either but I’m not local so only going by what others who are have said about it.
Snipped by me for focus
The only blank for me is earphones. How was NB listening in to that Teams call?
The police and search response was very quick, they literally drove past me with their boats and equipment, this was 2 1/2-3hrs of her disappearance.So now, correct me if I'm wrong, there is a 15 minute gap from the phone being on the bench, to Willow being found? It's just made the time frame even smaller.
Do we know when the first search of the water was? I know PA and the police responded very quickly, so I think what is bugging me is that in other cases, that have been mentioned, the search and response haven't been so quick... hence why maybe it took longer for them to be found. I guess what I'm saying is, if the search was pretty much instantly, it's now a week on, would she have possibly travelled so far down the river? Apologies if this is ramble.
Can anyone clarify at which exit there was no cctv footage? ThanksI can see Garstrong road, not lane but I'm not the best at this.
I'd like to see it in relation to the bench?