UK - Nurse Lucy Letby Faces 22 Charges - 7 Murder/15 Attempted Murder of Babies #10

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This week Liz and Caroline examine the case of Baby I who Lucy Letby is accused of trying to kill 3 times before succeeding to murder on the 4th attempt. Jurors heard from a doctor who said she saw Lucy crying, ‘It’s always me when it happens, my babies…”


In this episode, Liz and Caroline explain the evidence the jury have heard in relation to a very premature baby girl, Baby I, who Lucy Letby allegedly attacked three times, before murdering her on the fourth attempt. Jurors heard from a doctor who said she saw Lucy Letby crying on the neo-natal unit and saying: ‘It’s always me when it happens, my babies…” The court was also shown a sympathy card Lucy Letby wrote to the parents of Baby I after she died. Lucy Letby denies all the allegations. Follow The Trial of Lucy Letby on Twitter @LucyLetbyTrialSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Something I found interesting in the podcast:

"Later that shift, Hudson heard I crying again, and when she went into the room, LL was already standing over the baby, ‘trying to settle her with a dummy’

Same loud relentless cry…Hudson said ’she is going to collapse again, it’s the same loud cry’ but LL tried to assure her I “would be alright, she just needs to settle.” LL told her " We can sort it out." But Hudson wasn’t convinced.

Hudson ran to get the Doctor for help and I’s oxygen numbers began to quickly drop. CPR began for over an hour and she got 8 shots of adrenaline. It did not help.

She passed away. The 5th baby in 5 months who allegedly died at her hands..."



Does it make any sense that an experienced nurse, that had just seen this same baby on the verge of death THREE times already, would just say ' she'll be alright, she just needs to settle, we can sort it out.' That sounds ridiculous and irresponsible and very suspicious, IMO.

And it doesn't sound like LL was very affected by her previous expereinces with losing babies. I'd think she'd be overly cautious when ever she'd see a baby exhibiting similar behaviours but instead, LL seemed to down play the worrisome clues.
 
That sounds ridiculous and irresponsible and very suspicious, IMO.

And it doesn't sound like LL was very affected by her previous expereinces with losing babies. I'd think she'd be overly cautious when ever she'd see a baby exhibiting similar behaviours but instead, LL seemed to down play the worrisome clues.
To tell the truth, nothing in this case surprises me any more.

I pity the parents of the babies who have to endure this hell - whatever the outcome of the trial.

Will "Fate" ever take pity on them? :(
 
"According to Baby I's mother, Letby expressed some concern to her and indicated that the infant would be reviewed by a doctor.

Mr Johnson said: 'When she made the requisite note, Letby reversed the concern, saying that it was Baby I's mother who had raised an issue about her abdomen, writing 'Mum feels it is more distended to yesterday and that I is quiet…not on monitor but nil increased work of breathing'.

He asked the jury: 'Was it Lucy Letby trying to cover for what she was going to do?'

She fed the sleeping baby 35mls of expressed breast milk via the NGT at 4pm. Half an hour later an emergency 'crash call' was put out.

Baby I had vomited, desaturated, her heart rate had dropped and she was struggling to breath. Her airway had to be cleared and she was given breathing support before being moved to Room 1.

X-rays revealed a massive amount of gas in her stomach and bowel, and her lungs appeared 'squashed' and of small volume. It was the prosecution case that this air had been injected into the baby's stomach.

The crisis passed, but medical notes record that Letby adjusted the infant's glucose infusion and gave her an injection of saline.

'Within moments, Baby I deteriorated again. "

Lucy Letby 'tried to kill baby girl four times before succeeding'


Mini timeline and testimony for this date, Wednesday 30th Sep 2015 (LL's day shift) -

8.00am - Letby was looking after three babies in room three that day, including Child I. (electronic evidence)

abt. 9.00am - Baby I’s mum had a routine of going straight to the hospital after school drop-off. She’d spend the day with her daughter and when she went home at about 4 o’clock her partner, baby I’s father, would take over in the evenings, after he’d finished work. Mother said she would normally attend hospital at 9am each day and do the same thing, checking on Child I, speaking to staff, and feed (if Child I was not on a feeding tube). She would also meet family in the canteen. (mother's statement)

10.00am - Feeds are continued for Child I during the day at 10am, 1pm and 4pm, of 35mls expressed breast milk and fortifier. The 10am feed is by bottle, the 1pm and 4pm are via naso-gastric tube with Child I being recorded as asleep for the latter two feeds. (electronic evidence)

1.00pm - Feed via NG tube - Child I recorded as asleep. A note for the feed at 1pm is read out to the court - 'EBM+fortifier, NGT, vomit aspirated 5ml, ph5'. It is signed by Letby (electronic evidence). A feeding chart showed 35mls was given to Child I when asleep, but Letby had recorded Child I as "handling well and waking for feeds". (opening speech)

1.36pm - LL's nursing note: Letby records Child I's temperature in the hotcot. She adds, after a note on the 3x8 feeds: "'Abdomen appears full and slightly distended. Soft to touch, [Child I] straining++. Bowels have been opened. Mum feels it is more distended to yesterday and that [Child I] is quiet. Appears generally pale. Not on monitor...[will continue to monitor situation]" (electronic evidence)

1.48pm - LL's nursing note: "Mummy visiting, carrying out feeds and cares". (electronic evidence) Mr Myers says the feeding chart for 8am-1.48pm shows one event of mother coming for feed that morning. He says the family communication isn't timed, and can refer to the period of 8am-1.48pm, not the time the note was written at 1.48pm.

abt 3.00pm - Mother said she was changing her daughter’s nappy prior to leaving for the day when LL came on duty. It would have been around 3pm. LL walked in and stood by the window, about 6ft away from mother and baby. LL said she thought baby’s stomach looked swollen to which mother agreed, but she appeared okay in herself. LL informed mother she would keep an eye on her and call for a doctor to check her out. A medical staff member checked the belly and noted it was soft, and it would be examined. (mother's statement)

3:00pm - Letby records, for 3pm: 'Reviewed by Drs as [Child I] appeared mottled in colour with distended abdomen and more prominent veins. Advised to continue. Temperature within normal range with hot cot at 38 degrees. Full monitoring recommenced. within normal range.' Observations are commenced more regularly for Child I, the court hears. (electronic evidence)

4.00pm - Feed via NG tube - Child I recorded as asleep. A 35ml feed at 4pm for Child I has an aspirate of 3ml, with Child I 'asleep'. It is signed by Letby's initials. Letby notes: 'did not wake for feed at 1600 therefore NG Tube feed given'.
(electronic evidence)

4.30pm - 4.30pm on the feed chart records, for Child I, 'large vomit and apnoea - nil by mouth'. It is not signed by anyone. Letby notes: 'At 1630 [Child I] had a large vomit from mouth and nose++ suction given. Became apnoeic with bradycardia and desaturation (30s). Help summoned and IPPV given for approx 3min in 100% oxygen to recover. Drs were crash called. 'Transferred to nursery 1...' A doctor [who cannot be named] records he is crash called. He notes 'Chest clear... Abdomen distended, active bowel sounds all zones' (electronic evidence). LL's retrospective note written at 8.26pm - For the family communications: 'Mummy present when reviewed by Drs. Had left unit when [Child I] had large vomit and transferred to nursery 1. [Mother] up to date with current plan.'

4.30pm - Mother says she received a call at home, from the hospital, at around 4.30pm. (mother's statement)

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The doctor's review at 3pm seems to align with mother's statement. LL says this conversation happened before her note at 1.36pm, but why would LL have waited from 1.36pm to 3pm to call the doctor?

Also noted that mum says it was about 3pm and "LL came on duty" and "LL walked in". Since LL was there for the 1pm feed, and there for the 1.36pm and 1.48pm notes, it seems as if mum wasn't there when LL fed her at 1pm (perhaps in the canteen herself) because she wouldn't have thought LL was returning from an absence or break when the conversation happened. JMO
 
I wonder what the nature of the dispute was regarding LL being relatively junior compared to other staff, and working in room one.

Was it that there was a sort of pecking order in that the most experienced nurses expected to be assigned to room one in preference to a more Junior nurse, regardless of how good the more junior college is at the job? Or was the dispute more about whether LL was experienced enough to be able to properly care for the babies in room one?
LL had done some advanced course hadn't she? Which made her senior to others who may actually have been better at their job, or had more experience? I can see that might cause friction.
 
Has she ever expressed any real sorrow for the poor little bubs losing their lives, and their grieving parents?
<modsnip: violates sub judice> But I don't think this signifies much really. Firstly it's not word-for-word as the doctor who overheard it said it was 'very much along the lines of... ". And the emotions expressed would not in themselves indicate a lack of sympathy in my opinion.
I wonder who she was talking to, they would probably remember more accurately.
 
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Nurse Ashleigh Hudson told jurors about Child I’s “relentless” and “very loud” crying from her incubator at just before midnight.

Dr Evans said: “Ashleigh Hudson’s evidence was very moving because nurses and doctors know what a normal cry sounds like.

“Babies will cry if they are hungry, or if you take a blood test because it hurts.

“This was very abnormal. A different kind of a cry. I interpreted it as the cry of a baby in pain and in severe distress.

“That is an extremely disturbing phenomenon. There was no obvious explanation why she was crying relentlessly and it was very loud.”

 
A tweet!


https://twitter.com/sangitalal

Dr Gibbs - paediatrician - says “I couldn’t understand why she had collapsed and died” Giving evidence about a baby girl Lucy Letby is accused of murdering after attempting to murder her 3 times.
One whole tweet! I do hope the reporter didn’t over-exert themself in bringing this to us….
 
My 2nd child suffered with colic as a newborn and this colicky cry in itself I found to be quite distressing so goodness knows what this cry was like.
Same here. The very idea that what this nurse witnessed was possibly a result of inflicted pain doesn't bear thinking about. It must have been bad for her to remember it.
 
My 2nd child suffered with colic as a newborn and this colicky cry in itself I found to be quite distressing so goodness knows what this cry was like.
Same here. The very idea that what this nurse witnessed was possibly a result of inflicted pain doesn't bear thinking about. It must have been bad for her to remember it.
 
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