UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, Faces 22 Charges - 7 Murder/15 Attempted Murder of Babies #24

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Well. I was going to go today, all the way from the south coast. I was only able to get there for lunchtime, and got all the way to Milton Keynes (about halfway) before learning a juror had skived :rolleyes:

Going to try again on Thursday or Friday! But what I really wanted to see was what Lucy had come up with over the long weekend to explain away her terrible slip up.
 
squish said:
Well. I was going to go today, all the way from the south coast. I was only able to get there for lunchtime, and got all the way to Milton Keynes (about halfway) before learning a juror had skived :rolleyes:

Going to try again on Thursday or Friday! But what I really wanted to see was what Lucy had come up with over the long weekend to explain away her terrible slip up.
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Oh no... What a wasted trip. I hope you get to go.
 
squish said:
Well. I was going to go today, all the way from the south coast. I was only able to get there for lunchtime, and got all the way to Milton Keynes (about halfway) before learning a juror had skived :rolleyes:

Going to try again on Thursday or Friday! But what I really wanted to see was what Lucy had come up with over the long weekend to explain away her terrible slip up.
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Are they sitting court on Thursday and Friday?
 
squish said:
Well. I was going to go today, all the way from the south coast. I was only able to get there for lunchtime, and got all the way to Milton Keynes (about halfway) before learning a juror had skived :rolleyes:

Going to try again on Thursday or Friday! But what I really wanted to see was what Lucy had come up with over the long weekend to explain away her terrible slip up.
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I drove 3.5hrs there yesterday leaving at 6am only to get inside the court room and be told it wasn’t going ahead It then took 4.5hrs to get home due to issues on the motorway. Devastated wasn’t the word lol
 
CS2C said:
I drove 3.5hrs there yesterday leaving at 6am only to get inside the court room and be told it wasn’t going ahead It then took 4.5hrs to get home due to issues on the motorway. Devastated wasn’t the word lol
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Solidarity <3 what a waste of everyone’s time this has caused!

June 1st on Thursday is the only day I can go now because the other days have train strikes, and she’s expected to finish the cross exam this week.
 
squish said:
Solidarity <3 what a waste of everyone’s time this has caused!

June 1st on Thursday is the only day I can go now because the other days have train strikes, and she’s expected to finish the cross exam this week.
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Now you have mentioned Friday being a possibility I am seriously tempted to get in my car and book a hotel again….If the trial starts this morning I think I will drive up and get in after lunch maybe.
 
I'm almost certain they won't be finished with cross-exam this week. There's still the rest of baby I to go through, and nine babies after that, and then her writings. I expect another one or two days next week if it goes ahead today and Friday is a half day.
 
Time on stand (approx)

Evidence in chief

notes, arrest, facebook searches, handover sheets etc 4h
A - 50m
B - 25m
C - 45m
D - 30m
E - 55m
F - 50m
G - 50m
H - 50m
I - 1h 20m
J - 35m
K - 30m
L&M - 1h 10m
N - 1h 15m
O - 1h
P - 35m
Q - 45m
matters post Q - 25m

total approx 17.5 hrs


Cross-exam

varied matters 2h
A - 45m
B - 1h
C - 1h 25m
D - 1h
E - 1h 45m
G - 1h 45m
H - 1h 45m
I - 2h (not finished yet)

total to date approx 13h 25m
 
Tortoise said:
Time on stand (approx)

Evidence in chief

notes, arrest, facebook searches, handover sheets etc 4h
A - 50m
B - 25m
C - 45m
D - 30m
E - 55m
F - 50m
G - 50m
H - 50m
I - 1h 20m
J - 35m
K - 30m
L&M - 1h 10m
N - 1h 15m
O - 1h
P - 35m
Q - 45m
matters post Q - 25m

total approx 17.5 hrs


Cross-exam

varied matters 2h
A - 45m
B - 1h
C - 1h 25m
D - 1h
E - 1h 45m
G - 1h 45m
H - 1h 45m
I - 2h (not finished yet)

total to date approx 13h 25m
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Considering cross began around the 17th May, there’s been roughly 11 days that court could have heard evidence since then.. yet she’s only spent 13 hours being cross examined!

The gaps between court days makes me wonder if this could be harming the case, making it hard for jurors to follow as it’s just not consistent. I know they have evidence on iPads to look back on during deliberations, but will there be a transcript of LL’s testimony they can look back on also? When there’s close to a week between court days at times how are the jury supposed to follow along? Without all these breaks and days off the entire case could have been heard, deliberated and a verdict reached by now had they been doing 5 or even 4 day weeks IMO.
 
Blondiexoxo said:
Considering cross began around the 17th May, there’s been roughly 11 days that court could have heard evidence since then.. yet she’s only spent 13 hours being cross examined!

The gaps between court days makes me wonder if this could be harming the case, making it hard for jurors to follow as it’s just not consistent. I know they have evidence on iPads to look back on during deliberations, but will there be a transcript of LL’s testimony they can look back on also? When there’s close to a week between court days at times how are the jury supposed to follow along? Without all these breaks and days off the entire case could have been heard, deliberated and a verdict reached by now had they been doing 5 or even 4 day weeks IMO.
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No they won't get a transcript of her testimony. They'll have their own notes if they choose to take any, plus they'll be reminded of what she's said in closing arguments and judge's summing up.
 
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