I was wondering that too. But was told defence in criminal court is free and the barrister would've been arranged by her solicitor. I thought for free you just get someone out of law school not a top barrister like him?
UK - Nurse Lucy Letby Faces 22 Charges - 7 Murder/15 Attempted Murder of Babies #3
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It doesn't show 'whether Lucy Letby was anywhere near to a child at the time of the event' or if there was 'a problem which could be traced before Letby's arrival'.
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It doesn't show 'whether Lucy Letby was anywhere near to a child at the time of the event' or if there was 'a problem which could be traced before Letby's arrival'.
Lucy Letby trial recap: Prosecution finishes outlining case, defence gives statement
THE prosecution in the trial of Lucy Letby, accused of murdering seven babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital neonatal unit and attempting to…
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Regarding the explanations for what happened, My Myers said: "This is something which is quite a difficult question, even for experts to look at."
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Regarding the explanations for what happened, My Myers said: "This is something which is quite a difficult question, even for experts to look at."
Lucy Letby trial recap: Prosecution finishes outlining case, defence gives statement
THE prosecution in the trial of Lucy Letby, accused of murdering seven babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital neonatal unit and attempting to…
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In capital letters around the note you can see the words HOPE PANIC FEAR also HATE - with a circle drawn around it.
Ben Myers KC tells the jury " we suggest that anyone who reads this fully with an ounce of understanding sees that it's the anguished outpouring of fear when she realised the enormity of what she was being accused of..
Ben Myers KC tells the jury " we suggest that anyone who reads this fully with an ounce of understanding sees that it's the anguished outpouring of fear when she realised the enormity of what she was being accused of..
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"What the case will come down to is the medical evidence, on what can be safely proved and what it can't."
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"What the case will come down to is the medical evidence, on what can be safely proved and what it can't."
Lucy Letby trial recap: Prosecution finishes outlining case, defence gives statement
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I am leaning towards LL and her family are paying an astronomical amount of money for this defence, that most people, if able to, would have to sell their homes for. And that might still not cover the bill.
EDIT: If LL is found not guilty, all of her defence costs are paid for by the court.
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I wouldn't have thought so, not for a case of this gravity and consequence. IMO.
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Regarding the medical evidence, Mr Myers said: "The cause of the deteriorations, or deaths, is not clear and have a number of possibilities.
"Generally, we are dealing with babies who are fragile, and their condition can change and deteriorate very rapidly."
Mr Myers adds the premature and vulnerable babies can come with developmental conditions that require extra treatment, and are prone to infections.
"It is crucial to consider the starting point in these cases.
"There is a question to whether this hospital should have been caring for this number of children."
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Regarding the medical evidence, Mr Myers said: "The cause of the deteriorations, or deaths, is not clear and have a number of possibilities.
"Generally, we are dealing with babies who are fragile, and their condition can change and deteriorate very rapidly."
Mr Myers adds the premature and vulnerable babies can come with developmental conditions that require extra treatment, and are prone to infections.
"It is crucial to consider the starting point in these cases.
"There is a question to whether this hospital should have been caring for this number of children."
Lucy Letby trial recap: Prosecution finishes outlining case, defence gives statement
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We've only heard the Crowns opening statement and about 5 mins of the defence...day 3 of 180'ish.
The defence only need to create just enough doubt by the penultimate chapter in this tragic story and LL may walk out of that court an innocent woman.
Of course, the Crown may prove otherwise....but not today.
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Right.
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Mr Myers: "We suggest whether an event that clearly fits an ongoing and difficult condition has been covnerted into an event of deep suspicion that harm is being done."
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Mr Myers: "We suggest whether an event that clearly fits an ongoing and difficult condition has been covnerted into an event of deep suspicion that harm is being done."
Lucy Letby trial recap: Prosecution finishes outlining case, defence gives statement
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For a nurse standing in the neonatal unit next to an infant is "unremarkable", without a "suspicion of guilt", Mr Myers tells the court.
"When we come to the experts, you will need to consider their evidence and how strong it is."
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For a nurse standing in the neonatal unit next to an infant is "unremarkable", without a "suspicion of guilt", Mr Myers tells the court.
"When we come to the experts, you will need to consider their evidence and how strong it is."
Lucy Letby trial recap: Prosecution finishes outlining case, defence gives statement
THE prosecution in the trial of Lucy Letby, accused of murdering seven babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital neonatal unit and attempting to…
I'm wondering what LL's parents are thinking through all this. They are there in court every day so I'm assuming that means they believe she is innocent?
This must be extremely painful for them, especially seeing those notes she allegedly wrote.
Either their child is being wrongfully accused of the murder of babies, or their child actually did kill babies. Both of those realities are horrific.
This must be extremely painful for them, especially seeing those notes she allegedly wrote.
Either their child is being wrongfully accused of the murder of babies, or their child actually did kill babies. Both of those realities are horrific.
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12:49pm
Regarding the medical evidence, Mr Myers said: "The cause of the deteriorations, or deaths, is not clear and have a number of possibilities.
"Generally, we are dealing with babies who are fragile, and their condition can change and deteriorate very rapidly."
Mr Myers adds the premature and vulnerable babies can come with developmental conditions that require extra treatment, and are prone to infections.
"It is crucial to consider the starting point in these cases.
"There is a question to whether this hospital should have been caring for this number of children."
Lucy Letby trial recap: Prosecution finishes outlining case, defence gives statement
THE prosecution in the trial of Lucy Letby, accused of murdering seven babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital neonatal unit and attempting to…
I fail to understand how a baby can be clinically stable, as supported by medical evidence, and then suddenly take a massive downturn in condition after LL has allegedly been in contact with them or around them, and have that be fobbed off as a poorly baby having a sudden turn with no human intervention causing it.
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I don't see how they can think she's innocent. She wrote a confession. Unless they think she is not guilty by reason of insanity.
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I'm more concerned for the dead babies' families.
They are the actual victims.
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He says she did not have them for a "sinister motive" but she was a person who "scribbled things down" and a person who "hangs onto bits of paper".
He then turns to the "coincidence" involved in the case.
"We say there is an assumption that someone is doing deliberate harm," he tells the court.
"There is no evidence of the actual events being alleged."
From using syringes to injecting air, tampering with bags of fluid or in some other way poisoning, physically assaulting children, or smothering them - the defence says there is no evidence that these attacks took place.
He returns to the case of Child E, whose mother - the prosecution said - walked in on Letby attacking her child.
Mr Myers says the evidence will not bear this out.
"The assumption of harm" and the assumption Letby is behind the harm has made the allegations "self-fulfilling".
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"There is a question of whether this hospital should have been looking after all these children, and whether it did so to the required standard," My Myers tells the court.
"For a nurse in the neonatal unit, standing there when a child is unwell is unremarkable," he says.
"Her presence alone is now treated as sinister."
Lucy Letby trial - latest: Nurse's defence begins - after her handwritten 'confessions' read in court
'No evidence' these attacks took place, defence says
Defence KC Ben Myers is now addressing why a number of medical notes were found in Lucy Letby's possession following a search of her house.He says she did not have them for a "sinister motive" but she was a person who "scribbled things down" and a person who "hangs onto bits of paper".
He then turns to the "coincidence" involved in the case.
"We say there is an assumption that someone is doing deliberate harm," he tells the court.
"There is no evidence of the actual events being alleged."
From using syringes to injecting air, tampering with bags of fluid or in some other way poisoning, physically assaulting children, or smothering them - the defence says there is no evidence that these attacks took place.
He returns to the case of Child E, whose mother - the prosecution said - walked in on Letby attacking her child.
Mr Myers says the evidence will not bear this out.
"The assumption of harm" and the assumption Letby is behind the harm has made the allegations "self-fulfilling".
Now12:58
Defence questions standard of care at Countess of Chester Hospital
Defence KC Ben Myers is now telling the jury there were shortcomings at the Countess of Chester Hospital that cannot be attributed to Letby."There is a question of whether this hospital should have been looking after all these children, and whether it did so to the required standard," My Myers tells the court.
"For a nurse in the neonatal unit, standing there when a child is unwell is unremarkable," he says.
"Her presence alone is now treated as sinister."
Lucy Letby trial - latest: Nurse's defence begins - after her handwritten 'confessions' read in court
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The defence say there are five 'important' considerations for the evidence:
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The defence say there are five 'important' considerations for the evidence:
- The birth condition of the infant.
- If there were any problems in the care leading up to the event - events 'can come up from nowhere'
- Whether the prosecution expert evidence concludes there was delibate harm done
- Whether Lucy Letby was resent at the relevant time, and what she was doing
- Whether there were failings in care by other people or the neonatal unit as a whole
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It's not looking good for LL so far but I'm personally still holding some space for the scapegoat theory. Regarding the notes, she might have been having a breakdown as a result of the allegations (a normal person would surely?, I would!) and be running through her mind all the terrible fears that she's caused the deaths by not being a good enough nurse and that people will think she's evil.
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