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Just to clarify...imo nurses were not signing each others names to help.
There would never be need to ...if anurse is on her break the nurse who does her tasks can sign her own name...no need to falsify anything
Then why on earth is Myers brushing over things like Oakley saying the prescription wasn’t her own handwriting, despite the prescription chart being initialled with her initials?

“An IV prescription chart, with Mrs Oakley's signature initials at 1.25am, is presented to the court.

Mrs Oakley said the prescription is not in her handwriting.

Mr Myers says it's not unusual for nurses to help each other out, particularly for procedures which could involve two nurses. Mrs Oakley agrees.”

Is this not them both implying that nurses did in fact sign for each other on occasion?

Source LIVE: Lucy Letby trial, Friday, November 4
 
She adds that two members of staff said the circumstances "would be investigated".

The colleague replies: "Dad was very anxious all day." and adds, in relation to the investigation, "What the delay in treatment?"

Letby replies: "Just overall looking into the case.

LIVE: Lucy Letby trial, Thursday, November 3

I find this interesting. This was June 2015. Not 2016. So, LL was aware of investigations (at least of a medical, rather than criminal, nature) into at least one case. She was even mentioning that the circumstances "would be investigated" to a colleague she was texting.

With this in mind, and after the cases of Child A, B, C, and D all occurred in June 2015 (8th to 22nd), there was a month and half gap to the case of Child E...
 
Then why on earth is Myers brushing over things like Oakley saying the prescription wasn’t her own handwriting, despite the prescription chart being initialled with her initials?

“An IV prescription chart, with Mrs Oakley's signature initials at 1.25am, is presented to the court.

Mrs Oakley said the prescription is not in her handwriting.

Mr Myers says it's not unusual for nurses to help each other out, particularly for procedures which could involve two nurses. Mrs Oakley agrees.”

Is this not them both implying that nurses did in fact sign for each other on occasion?

Source LIVE: Lucy Letby trial, Friday, November 4

This, as written, is meaningless.

The prescription is written by the doctor, so of course the prescription wouldn't be in Oakley's handwriting.

Do they mean that her signature is not in her writing? Has this been reported incorrectly?

It may seem pedantic, but it's important to get this right.
 
Then why on earth is Myers brushing over things like Oakley saying the prescription wasn’t her own handwriting, despite the prescription chart being initialled with her initials?

“An IV prescription chart, with Mrs Oakley's signature initials at 1.25am, is presented to the court.

Mrs Oakley said the prescription is not in her handwriting.

Mr Myers says it's not unusual for nurses to help each other out, particularly for procedures which could involve two nurses. Mrs Oakley agrees.”

Is this not them both implying that nurses did in fact sign for each other on occasion?

Source LIVE: Lucy Letby trial, Friday, November 4

It's not clear from this short piece of information imo

Myers talks of it not being unusual for nurses to help each other out when two nurses are required...its obvious if it's a drug that needs two people to check another nurse has to help you....which is procedure

But prior to that he talks about a prescription signed by the nurse ..that she feels is not her writing...it doesn't mention (unless I've missed it) that there was another signature along side ?

If its only a one signature drug there would never be a need to sign for another nurse . If that makes sense
 
This, as written, is meaningless.

The prescription is written by the doctor, so of course the prescription wouldn't be in Oakley's handwriting.

Do they mean that her signature is not in her writing? Has this been reported incorrectly?

It may seem pedantic, but it's important to get this right.

It must be significant that they’re talking about “signature initials”. These serve some specific purposes in medical records.

For example in case notes I was always taught that if you cross anything out you should write your initials above it, to show it was you and that the notes hadn’t been tampered with at a later point. Initials over signature because of space constraints, as much as anything.

It sounds like the nurses might just be regularly initialling a chart to record that a prescribed medication (signed and issued by a doctor at an earlier point) has been administered at a certain time.

Doesn’t clear up the who what where of it all, though!
 
Everybody should sign a document with his/her own name, surname/initials/ paraph.

Anything else is a forgery.

Moo
Having thought about it, I wonder if it’s actually meant, nurses will write notes for others to help out, but the actual nurse will go back and initial them when they catch up. Almost like when doctors have their secretaries write letters and the doctor just reads and signs.
 
Having thought about it, I wonder if it’s actually meant, nurses will write notes for others to help out, but the actual nurse will go back and initial them when they catch up. Almost like when doctors have their secretaries write letters and the doctor just reads and signs.
But it is a hospital.
Documents concerning treatment are very important - everybody takes responsibility for THEIR own actions.

Besides, the other nurse did not recognise the signature as her own.

In the school where I work such things as signing documents concerning pupils are very important - nobody would ever dream of forging a signature.
It can be reported to Police.
 
But it is a hospital.
Documents concerning treatment are very important - everybody takes responsibility for THEIR own actions.

Besides, the other nurse did not recognise the signature as her own.

In the school where I work such things as signing documents concerning pupils are very important - nobody would ever dream of forging a signature.
It can be reported to Police.
She didn’t say the signature wasn’t her own though, just the writing. So could it not be the case that another nurse has written a note and then she herself has gone back at a later date and is able to add/amend then sign it off herself as the person who did the treatment in said note?

If not I’ve no idea.
 
She didn’t say the signature wasn’t her own though, just the writing. So could it not be the case that another nurse has written a note and then she herself has gone back at a later date and is able to add/amend then sign it off herself as the person who did the treatment in said note?

If not I’ve no idea.
This would be very nonchalant attitude.

I simply don't understand it.

The baby died, and a document describing the treatment is a mess.

I don't get this work "culture".

Moo
 
But it is a hospital.
Documents concerning treatment are very important - everybody takes responsibility for THEIR own actions.

Besides, the other nurse did not recognise the signature as her own.

In the school where I work such things as signing documents concerning pupils are very important - nobody would ever dream of forging a signature.
It can be reported to Police.
I agree. I have not worked in a hospital - but in a nursing home, staff are absolutely not allowed to write/sign any notes/charts on behalf of other members of staff. I had always been told to remember everything I enter on the running record or sign, has the potential to be used in court, and I will have to be accountable for it. I would have imagined in a hospital it would be even more stringent.
Only my opinion and experience :)
 
What is everyone thinking of Myers so far? I know we've got a lot more to see but I think he's certainly dropped a few clangers, the above for one, and a couple of instances he's asked about staffing issues and got a sharp rebuff. Currently unsure of what his strategy is at the moment
I was thinking about this yesterday too. I believe it caught him out as he was expecting the doctor to say what was in his report from, I think, 2018? Myers was caught off guard and frustrated.
 
But it is a hospital.
Documents concerning treatment are very important - everybody takes responsibility for THEIR own actions.

Besides, the other nurse did not recognise the signature as her own.

In the school where I work such things as signing documents concerning pupils are very important - nobody would ever dream of forging a signature.
It can be reported to Police.
I agree.
When my child was in NICU for 4 months, my experience was of procedures/tests/drug administration that required two signatures, did not go ahead until that requirement was fulfilled.
 
Child D Timeline (Part 1 of 2 - up to midnight 21 June 2015)

Note – quotes from the opening statements are NOT testimony or evidence. Witness evidence for Child D is not complete yet, so this timeline is incomplete. Where a time is not stated in media reports I’ve inserted the event in the timeline with a “Time ?” where I think it makes sense, but this may be incorrect.



Initials used:

Prosecution Opening Statement (“OS”)
Intelligence Analyst Kate Tyndall (“KT”) evidence 3/11/22
Intelligence Analyst Claire Hocknell (“CH”) evidence 4/11/22
Nurse Caroline Oakley (“CO”)


Colour code used:

Nursing notes
Cross examination*
Opening statements*
Key events
LL’s texts and Facebook Searches
Prosecution case* and Defence case* in relation to Child D






18 Jun 2015, Thursday

About 9am – D’s mother’s waters broke when she woke up (source mother’s testimony).

11.30am – Mother arrived at CoCH. Staff checked her & baby and she was sent home (source mother’s testimony).



19 June 2015, Friday

8am to 8pm – LL working long day shift (source KT).

Day – Mother returned to CoCH and saw a midwife. Mother was concerned about infection. Mother was admitted and a decision was taken to induce. She was later administered an IV (source mother’s testimony).



20 Jun 2015, Saturday

2-3am – mother had mild contractions but had not dilated (source father’s statement).

7am – Almost 48 hrs after her waters had broken, mother had a bleed. She first saw a female doctor, was told she and baby were ok. A natural birth would be considered and that would be reviewed at 11am (source mother’s testimony).

11am – Mother was assessed by a male doctor. No dilation and a C-section was considered (source mother’s testimony).

3pm – Mother was assessed again by same male doctor and confirmed she would receive a C-section (source mother’s testimony).

4pm – mother went for an emergency C-section (source father’s statement).

4.01pmBaby D (girl) born at full-term, weighing 6 lb 14 oz (3.13kg). She lost colour and became floppy shortly after delivery. She didn’t cry. Father held D in his arms. D required breathing support, Apgar scores were 8/10 at 1 min after birth and 9/10 at 5 mins (source OS and KT).

Mother and father then went to the post-natal ward with D for a brief time and they put pyjamas on her. Mother had physical contact with D, she was worried because D was making a groaning noise, struggling to breathe and was limp and pale. D briefly opened her eyes (source mother’s and father’s testimony).

7.30pm - D was taken to neonatal intensive care unit for respiratory support requiring ventilation. D was grunting (source KT). D was taken to Room 1 (source OS).

Time? - D was placed on CPAP with 40% oxygen support and placed on double phototherapy to treat jaundice (source KT).

Time? - Dr Ahmed Chowdhury discussed D with parents and noted Sats 47%, sats picked up after bagging. D given antibiotics and sodium chloride (source KT).

Time? - D administered with endotracheal tube 2nd attempt. D was starting to put a few breaths in for herself now (source KT).

Time? - An x-ray reading for D showed 'shadowing consistent with transient tachypnoea of the newborn [TTN, a respiratory disorder]' (source KT).



21 Jun 2015, Sunday (Father’s Day)

4.30am
- nursing note showed D was making 'good respiratory effort', and blood gas readings were 'good', so ventilation support was reduced (source KT).

7.21am - nursing note recalls the father's visit to the neonatal unit. It includes: "[Father] appeared overwhelmed so lots of reassurance given." (source KT).

Morning – mother was told D had been up and down all night and struggled with breathing and feeding, but staff didn’t seem too worried. She recalled D needed to be on CPAP and every time they took her off she would crash. Other tests showed she was fine. Mother spoke to a doctor before going to see D at 7pm (source mother’s testimony).

9am - Nurse Kate Bissell noted that D was 'extubated...following satisfactory blood gas'. D was 'initially apnoeic and required stimulation...via Neopuff/CPAP', but the breathing became more regular after a couple of minutes (source KT).

10.15am - Nurse Kate Bissell noted a blood gas reading was taken and the results showed signs of respiratory acidosis, so Child D was put back on CPAP (source KT).

12.15pm - The blood gas was repeated and 'showed further deterioration with increasing metabolic acidosis'. D's perfusion was 'poor' and a doctor approved a decision to administer medication (source KT).

Time? - Dr Ahmed Chowdhury recorded a UVC and a UAC were inserted (source KT).

Daytime – Father went to see D frequently and is almost certain she’d been taken off CPAP. Staff gave him a Father’s Day card with D’s photo inside; she was on CPAP in the photo. Later he was given a welcome card with a photo which showed D looking better and not on CPAP (source father’s statement).

5.53pm - A 'family communication' note is made - "Dad visiting most of the day, he is up to date with the plan of care. Mum has visited this evening." Both parents were 'anxious' about the levels of care provided (source KT).

7pm – Mother (in a wheelchair and on morphine, pain 10/10) and father went to see D in the ICU. She recalls the time as she must have looked at the clock. She was happy with D, recalled seeing D in the presence of Dr Brunton, she “looked like a good pink healthy baby, tiny but chubby”. Mother recalls as she was wheeled into the room LL was hovering around the incubator with a clipboard and LL said D was fine. Mother asked father to ask LL to go away and give them some privacy. Mother only knows LL’s name since LL was arrested (source mother’s testimony).

7.15pm - A nursing note said attempts were made to get D off CPAP, but breathing was still 'shallow' off that, so CPAP resumed (source KT).

7.26pm - Swipe data showed Lucy Letby arrived for her night shift at the neonatal unit (source KT).

8pm Nightshift starts – Caroline Oakley [CO] D’s designated nurse in Room 1 was also looking after a baby in Room 2. LL was the designated nurse for the other two babies in Room 1 (Source KT). LL was also the designated nurse for a (third) baby in another room until care was passed to a different nurse at 10.45pm (source CH).

8pm – CO’s nursing note (written retrospectively at 4.46am): 'lower limbs dusky and feet bruised. Doctors aware. Feet cool to slightly warm. Observations satisfactory.' CO added Child D was 'nursed on CPAP in air. antibiotics given as prescribed.' CO testified that heel pricks could make the feet bruised. The nurse said Child D's circulation was not "100 per cent brilliant" at that point, but this was common in newborn babies (source CO).

Time? – CO’s nursing note records Child D was reviewed by Dr Andrew Brunton. The decision was made to 'commence feeds and increase as tolerated', with expressed breast milk (source CO).

The observation chart for Child D for that night shift is shown to the court, which shows CO’s initials signing hourly observation readings. The heart rate, respiration rate and temperature are recorded. Child D's heart rate for the first few hours was "completely normal" up to 12.30am (source CO).

The respiration rate was at the "upper end of what would be considered ideal", but was still within normal parameters (source CO).

The temperature readings are also "completely normal" with "no high temperature" (source CO).

Time? - A further observation chart records the readings made for Child D being on CPAP. The chart recorded Child D did not require oxygen support at this stage, having been taken off that in the early hours of June 21. The oxygen saturation levels were '100', which meant Child D was "breathing beautifully" (source CO).

Another intensive care chart is shown to the court, showing fluids administered during the evening and night of June 21. A 'minimal' amount of 'acidic' aspirates is recorded from the stomach in the evening. It was followed by 'mostly clear' aspirates, with occasional darker bits. CO says there was "nothing" she was "worried about" from those readings (source CO).

9-9.30pm – Mother spoke to Dr Andrew Brunton and he said he was very happy with D’s test results. They had done more scans and she was well and mother would be able to hold her the next day (source mother’s testimony).

10.45pm – LL’s designated baby not in room 1 was passed to a different nurse (source CH).

11.52pm – blood gas readings taken. “Satisfactory” (source CO).
 
Child D Timeline (Part 2 of 2 - from 22 June 2015)

Note – quotes from the opening statements are NOT testimony or evidence. Witness evidence for Child D is not complete yet, so this timeline is incomplete. Where a time is not stated in media reports I’ve inserted the event in the timeline with a “Time ?” where I think it makes sense, but this may be incorrect.



Initials used:

Prosecution Opening Statement (“OS”)
Intelligence Analyst Kate Tyndall (“KT”) evidence 3/11/22
Intelligence Analyst Claire Hocknell (“CH”) evidence 4/11/22
Nurse Caroline Oakley (“CO”)


Colour code used:

Nursing notes
Cross examination*
Opening statements*
Key events
LL’s texts and Facebook Searches
Prosecution case*
and Defence case* in relation to Child D



22 Jun 2015, Monday

1am
CO remembers going on her one-hour break from 1am to 2am, in the resuscitation room where staff had their breaks (source CO).

1.05am - The fluids chart also notes what CO believes is a task carried out for Child D by LL at 1.05am, which she said would have been noted retrospectively, as CO would have started her break at this time (source CO). In cross-examination - A fluids chart is presented, showing the gastric tube change recording '0105 - suction pp ll, AXR, bolus'. CO says she believes she has written that retrospectively, and has summarised what she was told for that 1.05am. She has summarised that they wanted a bolus and an abdominal x-ray. She says she would have been told all this by Lucy Letby, by another nurse Kate Percival-Ward, or a combination of both.

1.14am – blood gas readings taken. “satisfactory”. In cross-examination CO says she is not sure this is her handwriting (source CO).

1.15am – D’s heart rate peaked (still within normal parameters) but could have been after handling and/or a nappy change (source CO). CO’s recorded observations on D. In cross-examination CO says she would have usually expected to write these observations at 1.30am (all her other observations are taken at 30 minutes past the hour – 11.30pm, 12.30am, 2.30am and 3.30am. She said she may have written them retrospectively (source CO).

1.25am – LL and CO sign for a saline dose prescription (source KT). CO and LL noted the start of an infusion (source OS). CO says usually the nurse looking after the baby will administer it. CO confirms the two signatures made, showing they had checked the fluid. CO adds: "I would presume that I connected the fluid". In cross examination CO says the prescription is not in her handwriting (source CO). LL said to police she couldn’t remember how she got involved (with D). She seemed to accept she had administered meds with a syringe at 1.25am (source OS).

CO cannot account for the timing of the medication administration and being on her break. She remembers going on her break at 1am and being called back at 1.30pm (source CO).

??1.29am – a doctor noticed an unusual rash on D. Nursing notes suggest LL and CO called the doctor to the room, although LL’s nursing notes show that she was looking after a different baby at the time. The prosecution allege that LL’s notes were inaccurate or she was creating an alibi for herself (source OS). In a June 2019 police interview, LL said she could not remember calling back the doctor when Child D collapsed, but it was possible she had (source OS). (my note – not sure if it relates to this collapse or the 2nd or 3rd)

1.30amD’s first collapse. CO was called to Room 1 by two senior nurses, one of them LL. She remembers being very happy with D before going on her break and going into the nursery saying “what’s happening?” She saw D had lost colour, had saliva coming from her mouth and deep red-brown discolourations to her trunk, legs, arm and chin, different to mottling. A doctor was called (source CO). CO’s nursing note written retrospectively but timestamped for 1.30am “Called to nursery by senior nurse […] and senior nurse Letby; [Child D] had desaturated to 70s, required oral suction as was bubbly [bubbly saliva] and had lost colour. Discolourations to skin observed, trunk/legs/arm/chin. Dr Brunton called to review." (sources KT and CO). CO says she hadn’t seen this skin discolouration/rash before, in her 20 yrs of nursing. CO says some of this note was what she had been told had happened. The “oral suctions” referred to what was being done to D before she arrived back in room 1, and the part of the note from “discolourations to skin observed” was her own observations (source CO). In cross-examination CO says it was a short distance from the resuscitation room to room 1, and does not recall who came to get her. Mr Myers said Child D responded well to the oxygen, and no resuscitation was required. Mrs Oakley agrees (source CO).

1.30am - A 1.30am fluids reading records 'nil by mouth' at the time for Child D, along with 'oral secretion ++' for aspirates (source CO).

Time? – A nursing note says: 'Saturations to 100% and O2 weaned to air. Observations satisfactory." CO said she couldn't recall who was doing what, but the oxygen was turned up on the CPAP machine, and Child D responded. The note adds: "Dr Newby called in to review; fluids increased..." and a number of drugs and solutions were administered and prescribed. The note adds: "Discolourations resolved. [Abdominal x-ray] taken satisfactory. Continue supportive treatment [ie antibiotics]. Maintain UVC [ie don't take it out]. Decision to speak to parents later as [Child D] stable and doctors required on paediatrics. Repeat gas good." CO confirms the rash-like appearance had 'resolved' between 1.30am and after the doctor's review. She says Child D had had an episode but had responded "quickly" and "normal parameters" had resumed within an hour. As Child D was "very stable again", and the doctors were "busy", the decision was made to let the parents rest and inform them in the morning (source CO).

2.30am – CO is asked to put into context further observation readings at 2.30am for Child D, which had "returned to normal". She says they would be considered "stable" (source CO).

2:40am – medication was administered by LL & CO. CO then left the room (source OS). An infusion prescription chart is recorded for a sodium chloride dose with 10% dextrose. LL is one of the two nurses signing for it (source KT).

2.44am - The medication administration update is made on the computer (source KT).

3amD’s Second collapse. D was distressed and crying. CO was not in the room, LL was in the room. Child D was resuscitated (source OS).

3am - The nursing note recorded: '[Child D] crying and desaturated again to 70s, commenced on 100% O2 via CPAP and picked up well but skin discoloured again but less than previously. Dr Brunton called to review; take off NCPAP, further fluid bolus and gas 1 hour cares attended to; [passed urine] +++ and passed meconium." CO says she cannot recall the events around this collapse, and says her memory of it is limited to that of her notes." (source KT and CO). In cross-examination Mr Myers suggests that CO was present at the time of the collapse. CO says she would have been in the vicinity at the time, and does not remember what she was doing. Mr Myers says it was an episode which resolved 'quickly' and resulted in a decision to take Child D off CPAP. He asks whether there had been a discussion about Child D's breathing support difficulties earlier that day. CO says she does not remember. She says she believes if the desaturations had gone to the 70s, the alarms would have gone off and she would have been alerted to Child D (source CO). On prosecution re-direct CO is asked how the rash had changed by 3am. CO replies the rash wasn't as pronounced, not "as bad", but she was not expecting Child D to deteriorate again. She says she had previously experienced 'mottled' appearance in babies - 'newborn spots', or 'mottled', but "we don't specifically get rashes, in my experience" (source CO).

3:20amthere is a record of LL starting an infusion and another record shows her caring for another baby in the room at 3:30am (source OS). A further neonatal infusion prescription is made, with Lucy Letby being one of the signatories (source KT). A nursing note of drug infusion, which CO says the doctors believed Child D would need more fluid on board, is noted at 3.20am (source CO).

3.30am - The fluid chart records for 3.30am 'restart expressed breast milk (1ml).' The prosecution say the collapses had been of concern to nurses, and why the doctors were called. CO said after the review, the doctors were "happy with her" and for fluids to continue to be administered. She added Child D had passed urine and had a wet nappy, and so she was comfortable in changing her nappy. "If I thought she was unstable, I would not have chosen to change her nappy. If the baby's unstable, they do not tolerate handling. Even cleaning them could cause them to be unsettled, with their heart rate going up." CO added 'observations satisfactory' and Child D was 'handling well'. The final observation readings were all in normal parameters at 3.30am (source CO).

3.45amThird and final collapse. The monitor alarm sounded. CPR began but D could not be revived. Nursing note: "Monitor alarming, [Child D] desaturated again and [stopped breathing]. Called senior nurse Letby to help. Stimulation given." (source CO). The nursing note recalled the alarm went off and Child D 'desaturated and then became apnoeic. Called Letby...' Resuscitation efforts began but to 'no effect'. A bleep alarm went off and doctors were called to the neonatal unit (source KT). In cross-examination Mr Myers says at that point, Child D had been taken off CPAP. CO replies: "Honestly, you would have to check the times for me." "She was stable in between these two times?" "Definitely." Mr Myers says there is then a more marked deterioration, as Child D stopped breathing, and nurse Oakley called for help. CO agrees (source CO).

3.52am - Use of Neopuff was given at 3.52pm. A senior house officer was called to help. Dr Brunton called to help, resuscitation efforts began. The prosecution asks if CO has a memory of this. She says she does not, it was "just a blur, just very busy. She 'misbehaved' [had gone poorly again]. I don't remember specifically." She does not recall if an alarm went off. She would have been in the room or sitting just outside it. From her notes, she called LL to assist. The initial 'stimulation' effort was to tickle the feet, trunk, ears, which can in itself get a baby stimulated enough to start breathing. CO says she played a part in the resuscitation efforts (source CO).

The court is shown a number of clinical notes are made by doctors for this time. These clinical notes will be discussed further when the doctors involved in them come to court to give evidence in the coming days. They include the resuscitation efforts, administration of adrenaline doses and the decision, ultimately, to discontinue CPR (source KT).

Abt. 4am – Mother and father woken up by a nurse and told to come quickly as D was poorly. Rushed downstairs and saw Dr Brunton holding D and trying to resuscitate her. Mother recognised LL from her visit to see D in the unit the evening before. LL was holding a phone to Dr Brunton’s ear. Father said the person Dr Brunton was talking to (a consultant) seemed to be confused over which baby had collapsed. Dr. Brunton kept shouting 'This is D!' He was quite agitated. 'A doctor next to him (Dr Elizabeth Newby) was tapping him on the shoulder, saying 'You've got to let her go'. Mother said LL was in the unit when D died. Mother was taken to a private room where D was, with father, another family member and a nurse she hadn’t seen before. She did not see LL again (source mother’s and father’s testimony).

4.25am – Baby D died (source KT). The coroner gave the cause of death as pneumonia with acute lung injury (source OS).

4.46am – CO’s retrospective nursing note for the nightshift written (see 8pm).

A nursing note by Yvonne Farmer recorded that Child D was blessed by a reverend with the family present, with hand and footprints obtained. The note added: "Parents had lots of cuddles and said goodbye to [Child D]." The parents were also given a bereavement box with mementoes and information on the Sands (Stillbirth and Neonatal Death Society) charity (source KT).

8am – night-shift finishes.

8.36am – LL’s text exchange with a colleague –

LL: "We had such a rubbish night. "Our job is just far too sad sometimes."
Colleague: "No what happened?"
LL: "We lost [Child D]."
Colleague: "What!!!! But she was improving. What happened? "Wanna chat? I can't believe you were on again. You are having such a tough time."
LL refers to Child D being "messed about a couple of times" and refers to a rash that "looked like overwhelming sepsis". She adds that two members of staff said the circumstances "would be investigated".
Colleague: "Dad was very anxious all day." and adds, in relation to the investigation, "What the delay in treatment?"
LL: "Just overall looking into the case. And reviewing what antibiotics she was on if sepsis."
Colleague: Child D "was behaving septic". "Oh hun, you need a break."
LL: "But it's part of the job and it's hard for everyone."
Colleague: "Yes but you have had it all recently."
LL: "Hmm well it's happened and that is it, got to carry on..." before referring to her planned time off. The conversation then discusses staffing arrangements, and the difficulties of the job, before noting an instance of a happier occasion on the unit.
LL: "But then sometimes I think how is it such sick babies get through and others die so suddenly and unexpectedly. Guess it's how it is meant to be."
Colleague: "We just don't have magic wands..." The colleague refers to what Child D looked like in their care.
LL: "I think there is an element of fate involved. There is a reason for everything."
LL says it had been “another shock for us all”, adding “feel a bit numb this time” (source BBC).
Colleague: "It's important to remember that a death is not a failure."
Colleague described their job as the "shi**est" but also the "best"
LL: "Absolutely, on a day to day basis it is an incredible job with so many positives but it's just so sad to watch what families go through."
Colleague: “you go to bed, you’re an excellent nurse Lucy, don’t forget it."

8pm – nightshift – LL working



23 June 2015, Tuesday


8am – LL’s nightshift ends.
-
8pm – Nightshift – LL working.

Evening - Further messages are exchanged between LL and her colleague -

Colleague: "How you doing?"
LL: "I'm ok - trying not to think about it. Work busy but at least we have 6 tonight."
Colleague enquires about Child D and whether anything had been said about not "bringing her through sooner on Saturday".
LL: "I don't think so", before adding there was a theory Child D may have had meningitis.
Colleague: "I'm worried I missed something."
LL: "I don't think any of us did and she [Child D] was on the right antibiotics."
Colleague: "Yeah, just would treatment sooner have made a difference."
LL asks her colleague if Child D had a lumbar puncture.
The colleague replies she was not sure it ever got done, given that the baby girl was ill and had been on CPAP. She adds her gas reading was "appalling" when she first came through to the unit.
LL: "I think we did what we could." LL then refers to the condition of the mother of Child D.



24 Jun 2015 - Wednesday

8am – LL’s nightshift ends.



25 Jun 2015 – Thursday


(LL not working)

9.51pmLL searched for both the parents' names of Child D on Facebook.



26 Jun 2015 – Friday

(LL not working)

LL sent a message to a colleague Minna Lappalainen: "Work has been awful."
Colleague: "Oh dear. Staffing probe?"
LL: "We have had three unexpected deaths, transfer out, few sick ones, unit full”. "What I’ve seen has really hit me tonight."
Colleague: "Have you worked today?"
LL: "No, been off since Wednesday morning and now it has all hit me."
Colleague asks if LL tries "talking to a proper counsellor".
LL replies that she does not think she can.
Colleague: "Why not?"
LL: "I can't talk about it now...I can't stop crying...I just need to get it out of my system."
Colleague advises LL to think carefully what to do, before adding: "Maybe you need to take time off."
LL: "Work is always my priority. I won’t let it affect it. I just haven’t let myself cry over it until now. Once I’ve let it out my head will be clear." (source Daily Express)



27 Jun 2015, Saturday

8am to 8pm – LL working long dayshift



28 Jun 2015, Sunday

8am to 8pm – LL working long dayshift



29 Jun 2015, Monday


(LL not working)



30 Jun 2015, Tuesday

(LL not working)


LL and a colleague exchanged messages about the condition of Child B.
Colleague: "There's something odd about that night and the other three that went so suddenly."
LL: "What do you mean? Odd that we lost three and in different circumstances?'
Colleague: "I don't know, were they that different?" "Ignore me, I'm speculating."
LL: "[Child C] was tiny, obviously compromised in utero. [Child D] septic. It's [Child A] I can't get my head around."



October 2015 (4 months after D died) – (could be 3rd, 10th, 17th, 24th or 31st) LL made a Facebook search for the name of baby D’s father on a Saturday tea time (source BBC tweet).



Prosecution’s case:

D had a risk factor because her mother’s waters broke early and the prosecution accepts the mother should have been given antibiotics (source OS).

Dr Evans says that the two recoveries are inconsistent with the fatal evolution of antenatal pneumonia. The discolouration and distress seen is indicative of an air embolus (source OS).


Another medical expert said the clinical status of Child D the previous night was not that of a deteriorating baby who would be dead a few hours later.
She added the injection of '3-5ml per kilogram' of air would be sufficient to kill.
Child D had been observed in distress prior to her death, and the medical expert added this would also be consistent with cases of air embolus (air injected into the system) (source OS).


Defence’s case:


Regarding the point of air embolus cases
The defence "accept it is a theoretical possibility", but that "does not establish very much".


For Child D, the defence say the hospital "failed to provide appropriate care", and this was "beyond dispute" as the prosecution accepted care was sub-optimal.
Child D "was never able to breathe unaided" and there was a "strong" possibility of infection, and evidence of pneumonia after death.




Links -

Parents’ evidence: Daily Mail Mother of murdered baby tells how she watched the infant die
CO’s testimony Chester Standard: Recap: Lucy Letby trial, Friday, November 4
CO’s testimony Daily Mail: Nurse 'had never seen' unusual rash that appeared on 'murdered' baby
Chester Standard updates 3/11/22: UK - Lucy Letby Trial - Media, Maps & Timeline *NO DISCUSSION*
4/11/22: Recap: Lucy Letby trial, Friday, November 4
Prosecution Opening statement re D: UK - Lucy Letby Trial - Media, Maps & Timeline *NO DISCUSSION*
Defence Opening statement re D: UK - Lucy Letby Trial - Media, Maps & Timeline *NO DISCUSSION*
LL’s texts:
Express: Nurse accused of murdering babies told colleague 'fate' part of deaths
BBC: - Nurse hovered over baby before she died, jury told - BBC News
 
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I definitely remember him bringing it up ..I'm not sure he went as far to say ...you changed your mind because LL wasn't on duty ..which would have been very powerful imo
Unless it just wasn't reported
On further reflection on this, after reading through Friday's cross-examination of Caroline Oakley, I think the defence is having to tread cautiously with this issue.

He's sort of saying CO was there when she remembers not being there, and she is pointing out that handwriting is not hers and the timing of observations at 1.15am doesn't fit with her hourly observations at half past the hour, and he is then taking a step back - saying "it's not unusual for nurses to help each other out" and child D responded well to treatment after the 1.30am collapse, and the collapse at 3am "was an episode which resolved 'quickly' and resulted in a decision to take Child D off CPAP." In other words, if he pushes that CO was there when she says she wasn't could be seen as a defence admission that the collapses involved deliberate harm.

If that makes sense.

Same as with Dr Evans - if he took that further and said LL wasn't on duty it's a double edged sword, kind of admitting this wasn't natural disease process that led to the deaths.
 
Wow thank you for all that hard work Tortoise! It must have taken a long time. It's very useful to see the events ordered but I've noticed that the mother allegedly wanted LL to leave the room at 7pm on 21/6 but then swipe data shows LL arriving at 7.26, if I've understood that correctly. So I'm not sure how that works?
 
Wow thank you for all that hard work Tortoise! It must have taken a long time. It's very useful to see the events ordered but I've noticed that the mother allegedly wanted LL to leave the room at 7pm on 21/6 but then swipe data shows LL arriving at 7.26, if I've understood that correctly. So I'm not sure how that works?
Yes. To be honest I think she could be confused over the time because she also recalled seeing Dr Brunton there, and I think the evidence reads that he reviewed baby D after 8pm. I tend to think it was LL because she recognised the same nurse holding the phone to Dr Brunton's ear at 4am. Hopefully it will become clearer with more witnesses. Maybe we'll find out it wasn't LL holding the phone, which would change everything.
 
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