Found Deceased UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London - Clapham Common area, 3 March 2021 *Arrests* #11

[ashford5]

Articles say they await specialist teams.

So I guess that’s divers if river or forensics if items in or around bins...??

Would they send in divers at night? I don’t really know how it works but I think whenever they search for a missing person who may have fallen into the river, they stop at night?

 

[Commoner]

Her clothing is very distinctive and has been displayed on every news and social media feed for a week. So I think it would be extremely risky for him to put her clothing intact into a recycling bin where it could be easily recognized and likely even DNA tested.

I think any clothing recyling charity would instantly pull it and call LE. Perhaps that is what happened.

My feeling is that he has burned her clothing and shoes much closer to home. The shoes would be the most difficult - melting into a big plastic mess and probably smelling badly of burned plastic.

Unless he put it there before the wave of publicity broke. MOO: the offender probably thought that it would be some time before any report made to the police was actioned widely (loads of people briefly missing) and that the chances of staff at a charity bin sorting site in Kent recognising something worn by one of the many missing women in London is probably small. Lots of places do shoe recycling too.

He may or may not have recognised that both jacket and trainers are fairly high end sports kit, and pretty unusual.
He may not have anticipated the level of coverage that followed Sarah going missing.

What I can't work out is how you'd get anything into the bin. Aren't they sealed during lockdown?

(ETA: have now read the post from the charity recycling person, and so it's possible bin was not sealed)

 

[Rosegold68]

can the recycling bin contents be traced back to original location?

corrie mckeague case featured bins, we analysed every angle of them !!

 

[episkey]

cordoned off area looks quite remote for a clothing recycling bin to be placed...also its only accessible by foot from what i can see

guildhall could be the bin area though

The guildhall car park has several recycling bins, but I don’t think any are clothes from memory. The clothing bin is in Sandwich Coop car park.

 

[Rosegold68]

Magnet fishing is becoming more and more popular. Perhaps someone’s pulled something of interest out of the water? JMO obviously.

yes the boredom of lockdown is bringing on all sorts of new interests!

 

[WildIsTheWind]

Maybe he threw away evidence there? I would think there would be better places to get rid of clothing or the phone, though. Could they have found the murder weapon or something else used in the crime?

Definitely not the best place to get rid of evidence, as the clothes in those bins get sorted and distributed to different places. I can see him dumping the clothes there thinking that the case was never going to be as huge as it has been. Maybe he thought it would go quiet (as so many disappearances do) and Sarah's image would not get to the area, specially if, as I suspect, he's not the sharpest tool in the box. My opinion only.

 

[MsBetsy]

IMO.. I think people would expect to see clothing in a clothing recycling bank and would be less conspicuous or noticeable than dumping it at a road side or somewhere random, especially as the clothes Sarah was wearing were quite bright and distinctive.

Obviously we don’t know if the police have recovered any clothes or personal items but based on the photos released in MSM they need to account for a jacket, possibly an under jacket / fleece, top, bra, trousers, pants, socks, shoes, hat, facemask, bag and contents and Sarah’s phone.

I would think he would have destroyed or burned whatever evidence he could, or tossed them into a body of water. But of course criminals always make mistakes so hopefully some of these items will be found. Even if they never find the phone they should still be able to recover the data.

 

[Rosegold68]

The guildhall car park has several recycling bins, but I don’t think any are clothes from memory. The clothing bin is in Sandwich Coop car park.

street view clearly shows some clothing recycling bins from just a couple of years ago

 

[episkey]

Ok, I deleted my earlier question. Here it is again, slightly modified. Would this be on a road he could have taken on his way back from London on his way to Ashford or Deal, perhaps he was disposing of things on the way?

Sandwich is the next town over from Deal, but it’s a windy one way system round the town so you’d be coming into Sandwich rather than passing through.

 

[ares21]

why did they need dental records to identify her? if they have teeth, they also have the head

 

[MrsKierkegaard]

If you were WC would you ask your wife to get rid of clothing which could or could not be bloodstained ? How would he answer that to her I wonder ? I am guessing GPS tracking from one of the cars led LE to this new spot. MHO of course

‘If I were WC’ who knows what on earth I would be capable of doing. Logic isn’t exactly his guiding principle.
We know absolutely nothing about the nature of the relationship between him and his wife or what they would have done for each other.
Plenty wives cover up for their criminal husbands, if not because they want to, because they are forced to.

 

[UKslueth2018]

Would they send in divers at night? I don’t really know how it works but I think whenever they search for a missing person who may have fallen into the river, they stop at night?

I am no expert but I guess it would depend on what it was? And how much risk to divers. If it was the phone how would they know it was there unless it’s already at surface so why would specialist be needed?

 

[Audiohoney]

Definitely not the best place to get rid of evidence, as the clothes in those bins get sorted and distributed to different places. I can see him dumping the clothes there thinking that the case was never going to be as huge as it has been. Maybe he thought it would go quiet (as so many disappearances do) and Sarah's image would not get to the area, specially if, as I suspect, he's not the sharpest tool in the box. My opinion only.

I definitely don’t think he expected her going missing to get so much attention so fast. I also think this potentially accounts for him calling in sick and asking for his armed duties to be taken away. He was unraveling. IMO.

 

[Herat]

Articles say they await specialist teams.

So I guess that’s divers if river or forensics if items in or around bins...??

My guess is divers

 

[MrsKierkegaard]

why did they need dental records to identify her? if they have teeth, they also have the head

Not necessarily when you think about it.
But dental records are often used even when the body is there if it is badly degraded.

 

[Lisa@ashford]

why did they need dental records to identify her? if they have teeth, they also have the head

Disfigured burnt acid clearly couldn’t id her due to possible injuries swelling or other reasons

 

[ares21]

‘If I were WC’ who knows what on earth I would be capable of doing. Logic isn’t exactly his guiding principle.
We know absolutely nothing about the nature of the relationship between him and his wife or what they would have done for each other.

i think he asked his wife to pick him up from the location or something, hence she new the general location but not precise location where she was dumped

 

[BrianJohnson]

why did they need dental records to identify her? if they have teeth, they also have the head

My first thought was death by gunshot wound to the head/face which sadly would cause injuries that would make recognition exceptionally hard

 

[Sherlockhames]

If you were WC would you ask your wife to get rid of clothing which could or could not be bloodstained ? How would he answer that to her I wonder ? I am guessing GPS tracking from one of the cars led LE to this new spot. MHO of course

Or phone? I am still of the view this entire crime was initially unplanned in terms of her death (who knows what happened - hope he is talking). The fact she was found quickly and the locations being searched are clearly not random, suggests that while he may have disposed of her phone/switched it off, he did nothing initially about his own phone or gps. While he had a hire car, that might well have been merely to cover his tracks for IE. Indicating “low cunning” (as per previous poster 4NSIC- but he is clearly not some criminal mastermind as all of his movement seems to have been tracked since last week.

IMO all of these locations are places that either phone or GPS data from any of their cars has led them to. But once they found a body, they focussed the search there, expecting to find clothes and belongings etc. This new search indicates maybe these are still missing, hence visiting the locations of every other place he would have visited. And since we are still in lockdown I doubt there are many as nothing has really been open!

Shortly after his arrest, some of these locations started appearing on the search radar. But I would guess when trawling through likely locations for finding Sarah (alive, or as is the case here, very sadly dead), those considered busier would not have been prioritised early on (ie the Great Chart location on any gps would have been a huge red flag given its dereliction rather than, say this location which looks far less secluded).

Not sure if any one else recalls but there were initial reports that Betteshanger Country Park was also searched at the same time as Great Chart - but nothing much was subsequently reported and no indication anything was found here.
Waterside path and recycling bin cordoned off in Sarah search

If you look at this place online, it is a family park attraction (playgrounds and nature trails).

So what’s the betting this was a family outing (no doubt confirmed by EC in custody perhaps?). So my guess is, while the police may have searched the area to cover all their bases, the search dogs maybe didn’t pick anything up and they concluded even this guy isn’t going to be disposing of evidence on a family outing.

But it’s little things like that which make me so sad for the family (obviously Sarah’s in the first instance, but also, his poor kids).

 

[Stella123]

It could be the clothes he was wearing, not sure how they would be led to the bin though if that was the case, and obviously just speculation.

Seems a strange sort of tidy thing to do - to dispose of clothes in a recycling bin IMO