US - Shots fired at Donald Trump rally in Pennsylvania as former president is seen with blood across his face, 13 July 2024

[margarita25]

 

[Yellowbelly]

I wonder if it was a bit spontaneous and maybe the lack of his own planning meant there wasn’t any smoke beforehand for intelligence to notice?

The existence of the explosive devices would suggest an element of planning went into this, rather than it being off the cuff. Guns and ammo might be readily available in the US, but explosives aren't. There's no constitutional right to build bombs.

 

[Inthedetails]

I don't understand the reaction. The threat isn't any greater today than yesterday or the day before, IMO. It's not like there's a serial killer on the loose, targeting politicians. Anyone thinking of harming knows even more now how it would end for them.

Copycats are an issue, especially with the conventions coming up. People also need to be reassured that any lax in security is addressed. Nerves are high with a close call that a politician was almost assassinated. All of those are reasons to be concerned in the moment, imo.

jmo

 

[MassGuy]

'Seems like maybe some sort of failure (active and/or verbal) communication between ground patrol LE (state, local) AND SS. Not everyone involved in security at this event was on the same page.

JMO

I think that’s part of it. The guys being notified would have been law enforcement, and not SS, who were the ones providing over watch with trained marksmen. So they may have not been able to relay that information in time.

The other part is the fact that those over watch guys didn’t see the shooter in the first place.

A former FBI agent on CNN last night was incredulous that rooftop wasn’t covered, as it was the single best location to take a shot at Trump. He said they should have had a SS on that very roof for that reason.

 

[Sundog]

^^rsbm

https://twitter.com/x/status/1812304579452702825

... and increase Secret Service protection for President Trump acknowledging the many threats he gets against his life everyday and the actual assassination attempt on his life and the threat he faces over the next few months of his campaign.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1812520808197005701

 

[SMK777]

A former FBI agent on CNN last night was incredulous that rooftop wasn’t covered, as it was the single best location to take a shot at Trump. He said they should have had a SS on that very roof for that reason.

Yes, I heard. What on earth would make them so lax with security? Over-confidence?

 

[SMK777]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1812520808197005701

Good. That question needs to be answered.

 

[Betty P]

I don't understand the reaction. The threat isn't any greater today than yesterday or the day before, IMO. It's not like there's a serial killer on the loose, targeting politicians. Anyone thinking of harming knows even more now how it would end for them.

I think there are a lot of incidents that happen to members of Congress and other elected officials that go unreported, but that instill fear in those members. They also routinely receive death threats. They aren't publicized because of the concern that it will encourage copycat violence. The latter is probably the biggest concern right now - that other nutty people will be triggered by this incident and act out. JMO, it's common sense to avoid public events for a while.

 

[Fabled Automatic]

I'm curious too about how he did his reconaissance and planning of the whole thing. Or did he just show up and go by the seat of his pants?

Based on reports stating he first tried to get in, then later turned away due to possibly being detected, I'm going to guess the latter.

 

[IceIce9]

Yes, I heard. What on earth would make them so lax with security? Over-confidence?

Secret Service, you had ONE JOB

 

[Sundog]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1812495902277263785

A profound statement by a wise and gracious former First Lady. How horrific this must be for Melania and Barron and the entire Trump family.

 

[steeltowngirl]

Authorities on Sunday identified the person killed as Corey Comperatore, a firefighter from Sarver, Pennsylvania who had two daughters and was an avid Trump supporter.

Yesterday time stopped," said Allyson Comperatore, the victim's daughter, on Facebook. "And when it started again my family and I started living a real-life nightmare.

Trump rally shooting victims: Pennsylvania firefighter killed, 2 local residents wounded

One person was killed and two were 'critically injured' in a shooting and assassination attempt at a Trump rally. Here's what we know on the victims.

www.usatoday.com

 

[MassGuy]

Based on reports stating he first tried to get in, then later turned away due to possibly being detected, I'm going to guess the latter.

It’s hard enough to get a small handgun through security (metal detectors, pat downs), let alone a long gun.

I don’t believe he ever tried to make entry, as he would have been caught before he even got close to security.

 

[JennieM]

8m ago

Joe Biden is rescheduling his trip to Texas following the assassination attempt on Donald Trump, according to White House pool reports.

The trip was originally planned for Monday, July 15.

Biden gives Oval Office address after assassination attempt on Trump: ‘Politics must never be a killing field’ – latest updates

Suspect, named as Thomas Matthew Crooks, killed in shooting at Pennsylvania rally; Trump and Biden reportedly had ‘good conversation’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Simply Southern]

Trump survives assassination attempt

after major security lapse, HOUSE TO PROBE SECURITY FAILURE, July 22

I think this is where the rubber meets the road and much will be total. Text messages, radio traffic, the original assessment, in my opinion only, will be a wake up call to the American people.
Moo

 

[JennieM]

New law could boost security for Trump, Biden, and Kennedy Jr

A new law could give Donald Trump, Joe Biden and presidential candidate Robert Kennedy Jr enhanced Secret Service protection.

Congressmen Ritchie Torres (Democrat) and Mike Lawler (Republican) issued a statement saying: "Last night's attempted assassination of former President Trump was a dark moment in our nation's history.

"As reports continue to emerge, it's clear that more protection is needed for all major candidates for president.

"That's why we're planning on introducing bipartisan legislation providing President Joe Biden, former President Donald Trump, and presidential candidate Robert Kennedy Jr, with enhanced Secret Service protection.

"Anything less would be a disservice to our democracy."

Live updates: Bandaged Trump gets rapturous welcome at Republican convention

The former president makes his first public appearance since the attempted assassination, arriving with a bandaged ear to cheers and applause.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Sundog]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1812457233042505793

I hope that this will be addressed during the House investigation as it is unclear if that is the case.

 

[margarita25]

Domestic lone wolves are not the only threat.

International terrorists have had an open door.

I’ll leave it at that, jmo.

 

[RANCH]

Lone wolves are not the only threat.

Terrorists have had an open door.

I’ll leave it at that, jmo.

An organized attack by a group of trained individuals would have likely succeeded at this rally. JMO.