GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #1

[minor4th]

The public display telling of RM's marriages and mental state seems to be deliberate to shake her up and make her seem unstable?

Definitely. And was she able to get in evidence about bi-polar? I had to step away when the attorney was trying to get Rachel to say something about her illness.

 

[Idaho Lynx]

I know Rachel is LDS and possibly on meds, but we really need to take her for an adult beverage when she gets off the stand! This defense attorney is something else.

 

[minor4th]

I think the defense brought this up b/c Rachel said her dad offered she, Damian, and Alexis the $5,000 when discuissing the will, or something like that. And she said her father had never done something like that before. So that's why, the defense is trying to show that the father had given her things beforre and it was not out-of-the-ordinary.

Yeah, I think that is the point they're trying to make - but they have not made it yet.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

Can the judge ask an attorney just what the he11 point she is trying to make? Besides badgering the witness and making at least me want to jump to in defense of Rachel and dot the lawyer's I's. I have never been so mad at an attorney for deliberating making this witness much more miserable than she needed to be.

Can't she be sanctioned for introducing the question about a witness's mental health? I am furious over that one.

 

[G&AMom]

I know Rachel is LDS and possibly on meds, but we really need to take her for an adult beverage when she gets off the stand! This defense attorney is something else.

That was my reaction. I want to give her hug and a whopping big margarita.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

Wow Vanessa is so beautifuL!

Just like her mother Michele was.

 

[Leilei]

Not a fan of this defense attorney at all. I'm sitting here, trying to understand the questions that she is asking, and getting confused, so I imagine Rachel is, too, and probably the jurors, as well. It's like she's cherry-picking one vague statement out of a thousand, and telling Rachel, "well, you said this". Rachel is holding her own, refusing to say "yes" until she sees and reads exactly what is on that report. I love that she stood up for her mother, too... "she did a LOT of work!!".

Throwing out the "he paid for this and this" is pretty desperate. Is that all they have to show that he was this awesome guy, that he paid for a few pieces of furniture and helped her with her weddings? Meh.

IMO

 

[gngr~snap]

I dunno ... giving an adult child too much can sound like hush money sometimes too...
Depending on how ya look at it.

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[ScarlettScarpetta]

The problem is they have a client who has committed fraud, Has killed his wife. IMO and then paraded his mistress into the house..

He is an ugly person. From the inside out.. So the only thing the defense has is trying to make the people testifying against him look bad..

And he can't. There is nothing about these people that are bad. They are distraught and destroyed by him.

 

[ziggy]

I'm surprised at what she does remember!
I can't even recall anything about going to the funeral home for my mom.
If questioned all I could say is the "guy " asked if it was OK to paint my mother's fingernails.
I don't remember the drive to the burial ... who exactly came to our home - nothing ...
And the death was not sudden!

IMO She's a superstar
*I was 33 when my mom died.
Rachel was 27?
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I guess everyone is different. I was 49 and I remember everything. I remember walking into the funeral home and seeing my mother for the first time. I remember everything was wrong from her clothes to her make up, so I had them change her clothes repaint her fingernails and then I re-did her make up Myself.

I agree that perhaps Rachel would never be a good witness because she seems to be a very fragile person.

By the way I thought Alexis looked like Catherine Zeta Jones. And I agree with the poster who said that her siblings will likely bolster her testimony.

 

[Bravo]

Coming in late here....any links to watching this on line...HLN is driving me crazy..as usual

TIA

http://wildabouttrial.com/martin-macneill-live-stream.html

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

I would have one little question for the woman lawyer. Does she like to pull the wings off of little bugs?

 

[popsicle]

I think the defense brought this up b/c Rachel said her dad offered she, Damian, and Alexis the $5,000 when discuissing the will, or something like that. And she said her father had never done something like that before. So that's why, the defense is trying to show that the father had given her things beforre and it was not out-of-the-ordinary.

Now I am thinking...this happened shortly before Michelle was murdered. Did he bring up his will as a way of getting her will in order, without her or anyone becoming suspicious?

 

[websurfer]

The defense hopes to make sure the jury gets the fact that he MM had a sore toe and could not have dragged his wife out of the tub as he says he could not do.
But? To make RM look so bad is not good beating up on her this way.

 

[whoanellie]

Is there more testimony today?

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

I guess everyone is different. I was 49 and I remember everything. I remember walking into the funeral home and seeing my mother for the first time. I remember everything was wrong from her clothes to her make up, so I had them change her clothes repaint her fingernails and then I re-did her make up Myself.

I agree that perhaps Rachel would never be a good witness because she seems to be a very fragile person.

By the way I thought Alexis looked like Catherine Zeta Jones. And I agree with the poster who said that her siblings will likely bolster her testimony.

I remember certain things when my husband died suddenly. I remember little details and then I'm totally blank about the next year or so. It was like I lived in a fog for a long time.

 

[Sulamith]

I think the defense brought this up b/c Rachel said her dad offered she, Damian, and Alexis the $5,000 when discuissing the will, or something like that. And she said her father had never done something like that before. So that's why, the defense is trying to show that the father had given her things beforre and it was not out-of-the-ordinary.

I am confused about the $5000 and the will. I assumed that Martin was going to give them the $ NOW instead of them collecting that amt. after he died. Something to do with income taxes maybe?

 

[G&AMom]

I remember certain things when my husband died suddenly. I remember little details and then I'm totally blank about the next year or so. It was like I lived in a fog for a long time.

Me, too, and my husband didn't die suddenly, it was after a long illness. I think everybody reacts differently. Like you, there are certain things I remember with total clarity, and big huge gaps.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

Are we at lunch?

I hope everyone tells Rachel she is doing fine and when she doesn't understand something to insist on reading it herself to help her remember. If I was on the jury I would be wondering if this is all the defense has?

 

[G&AMom]

I am confused about the $5000 and the will. I assumed that Martin was going to give them the $ NOW instead of them collecting that amt. after he died. Something to do with income taxes maybe?

I was confused, too. I would also say that my parents would on VERY rare occasion give me money for a very specific purpose -- to put in an IRA, say, or something like that -- and never simply handed me thousands of dollars.