VA - Amy Bradley, 23, Petersburg, 24 March 1998 - #1

[neesaki]

Since Amy's photo has been so widely distributed over the internet, etc., why would we expect her to still look exactly like these photos now? If someone did not want her to be recognized would they not very possibly change her appearance as much as possible, hair dyed from brunette to blonde is the first thing that comes to mind.

Another thought that has plagued me, in these highly publicized cases such as Amy's, is there no concern that due to the attention and publicity the traffickers will go even further underground with the victims, not let them out in public at all, basically keep them locked away in seclusion, or, I won't say it, but even worse than that?

 

[FindAmy]

I have to wonder why traffickers would take the risk of bringing Amy to San Francisco, or anywhere close to the states for that matter. Where exactly was she seen, what were the circumstances, who was she seen with ? TIA

At first, the San Francisco sighting left everyone scratching their heads. I can assure you, though, that it was one of the best sightings and it has been verified as accurate. Two of the artist sketches were completed from this sighting by an FBI artist. Amy was seen on April 18, 2003 at Pier 39 (Fisherman's Wharf). She was with two "handlers" as they were watching a musician on the pier. Amy was recognized, but the handlers got her out of the area before the police could get there. The handlers actually grabbed Amy and ran when they realized that she had been identified. There were many witnesses who watched this take place. There are a number of reasons why she could have been there.

 

[FindAmy]

These are the FBI artist sketches for the men with Amy in San Francsico.

 

[FindAmy]

Since Amy's photo has been so widely distributed over the internet, etc., why would we expect her to still look exactly like these photos now? If someone did not want her to be recognized would they not very possibly change her appearance as much as possible, hair dyed from brunette to blonde is the first thing that comes to mind.

Another thought that has plagued me, in these highly publicized cases such as Amy's, is there no concern that due to the attention and publicity the traffickers will go even further underground with the victims, not let them out in public at all, basically keep them locked away in seclusion, or, I won't say it, but even worse than that?

You are absolutely correct with what you are saying. There is information that has not been made available to the public. There is information that must remain confidential. From all that is known, Amy's appearance does seem to be the same.

Amy's handlers are very careful. The best case scenario would be for someone to identify her and call for authorities on the spot. I have no doubt that Amy has been seen many times. She just hasn't been recognized. Amy disappeared before Internet forums really took off, so she never got the facial publicity that Natalee Holloway got seven years later. Most people don't remember what Amy looks like. Many of the young adults who are currently taking Caribbean vacations were children when Amy disappeared. They probably don't remember her.

 

[Fukiyama]

FindAmy, can you talk at all about what went into deciding what to put in the Vanished program? I've never heard of this San Francisco sighting before, but multiple people seeing Amy in the continental United States....

 

[FindAmy]

FindAmy, can you talk at all about what went into deciding what to put in the Vanished program? I've never heard of this San Francisco sighting before, but multiple people seeing Amy in the continental United States....

The decisions for the content of the Vanished movie were made by the Bradley family, the Lifetime producers, and Beth Holloway. I don't know why there was such a big focus on Frank Jones and his nonsense in Curacao. The San Francisco sighting has been public knowledge for many years. I think many people wanted to disregard the sighting because at the time, it didn't seem to make any sense. San Francisco was an unlikely location for a woman who had been kidnapped in the Caribbean. Amy was with two handlers on the pier that day. When the handlers took off with Amy, they disappeared into the crowd. The police were unable to find them.

 

[FindAmy]

Many scam artists have attempted to victimize the Bradleys. Frank Jones was just the one who came up with the most elaborate scheme. He used actors and photoshopped pictures to convince the Bradleys that he knew where Amy was. The extremes that he went to were really sick. He was taking advantage of a family in tremendous grief. The State of Virginia sentenced Frank Jones to prison.

The Bradleys still receive frequent reports of sightings. Every report is checked out.

There are still people who attempt to con the family. It really is sad that there are people in society who will do things like this and attempt to take advantage of the Bradleys. All of the attempted cons are reported to law enforcement.

 

[FindAmy]

The sketches from the San Francisco sightings should be extremely accurate. The FBI sent their best sketch artist from Quantico, Virginia to San Francisco to do these sketches. The artist spent many hours with witnesses. These sketches should be almost like a photograph. The dark haired man has been described as possibly having a Colombian or South American appearance. The other man has red hair and a red beard.

 

[neesaki]

I wonder if Amy was a Scientologist or had considered joining or was being pressured to join that organization before she disappeared? Or could she have joined and was trying to get out? Also, if Scientology was involved that might partially explain why she was seen in the states.
Here is a report of an Australian woman who was kidnapped and held on a ship for twelve years by the Scientologists:

Woman claims Scientologists kidnapped her
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...entologists-kidnapped-her/UPI-89581322528985/

Also, it was widely reported that the Scientology organization was being investigated by the FBI a year or two ago for such things as various forms of abuse against it's members and forced labor, including holding them against their will for long periods of time. The agents doing the investigation were, according to everything I've read, human trafficking special agents. The investigation reportedly abruptly came to a halt because these Scientologists allegedly know who to pay off to get anything they want.

Hope it's ok to post these links, they're concerning that investigation:

FBI Investigating the Fraud of Scientology as reported on the Today Show:
At Last! FBI Investigating the Fraud of Scientology - YouTube

FBI Investigating Scientology For Human Trafficking - The Allen Hunt Show
FBI Investigating Scientology For Human Trafficking - The Allen Hunt Show - YouTube

This is a long expose done by The New Yorker according to ex-Scientology member, Paul Haggis:

Paul Haggis vs. the Church of Scientology.
by Lawrence WrightFebruary 14, 2011​

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/02/14/110214fa_fact_wright​

 

[FindAmy]

I wonder if Amy was a Scientologist or had considered joining or was being pressured to join that organization before she disappeared? Or could she have joined and was trying to get out? Also, if Scientology was involved that might partially explain why she was seen in the states.
Here is a report of an Australian woman who was kidnapped and held on a ship for twelve years by the Scientologists:



Also, it was widely reported that the Scientology organization was being investigated by the FBI a year or two ago for such things as various forms of abuse against it's members and forced labor, including holding them against their will for long periods of time. The agents doing the investigation were, according to everything I've read, human trafficking special agents. The investigation reportedly abruptly came to a halt because these Scientologists allegedly know who to pay off to get anything they want.

Hope it's ok to post these links, they're concerning that investigation:



This is a long expose done by The New Yorker according to ex-Scientology member, Paul Haggis:

Prior to her disappearance, Amy had spoken with several women from Sea Org and the Freewinds, who were on the cruise ship. The Freewinds was docked near Rhapsody of the Seas, because Curacao is the home base of the Freewinds. The night that Amy disappeared, several high ranking Scientologists went to the Bradley's stateroom. They were dishonest when they claimed that they had been sent by the US Embassy. Many now believe that the Scientologists were attempting to recruit the Bradley family in their moment of extreme vulnerability. They were taking advantage of the family's fragile emotions. Scientology has sent cease orders to the Bradley family because of public accusations that have been made. These accusations now present a potential liability for them.

High Level Intelligence has absolutely verified that Amy Bradley was not kidnapped by Scientologists. It simply didn't happen. Alister Douglas did not work for Scientologists as some have claimed. The known sightings of Amy do not correlate with any Scientology activities. Valeska Paris is the Australian woman you are referring to. She has testified that Amy Bradley was never on the Freewinds during the many years that Valeska was imprisoned there. Valeska has personally contacted the Bradley family and assured them that Amy was not on the Freewinds or a part of Sea Org. High ranking Scientologists who have defected from the organization have verified that Amy was never part of Scientology, nor was she held as a prisoner. There are some people who have gravitated to this Scientology theory. The theory makes for great forum gossip by people who don't know much about Amy's case. This is an old possible theory that has been proven to be incorrect. It has been quite a few years since Scientologists have been considered as possible captors of Amy Bradley.

 

[danzn16]

I had never heard of the san francisco sighting before. that seems crazy to me that they would have brought a missing person back to America. I robert why they would do this? Seems too risky.

FindingAmy, I also want to thank you for providing information on Amy's case.

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[brit1981]

I looked at the find amy site, and I could not see anything about the various sightings, and I had never heard of the San Francisco sighting either. I could nto see any age progression of amy or efits of the men seen with her. Is this correct, or am I looking at the wrong site?

 

[FindAmy]

I had never heard of the san francisco sighting before. that seems crazy to me that they would have brought a missing person back to America. I robert why they would do this? Seems too risky.

FindingAmy, I also want to thank you for providing information on Amy's case.

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San Francisco seems very unlikely. I think we need to always be aware of our surroundings. Keep a mental image of these missing women in our heads.

 

[neesaki]

Prior to her disappearance, Amy had spoken with several women from Sea Org and the Freewinds, who were on the cruise ship. The Freewinds was docked near Rhapsody of the Seas, because Curacao is the home base of the Freewinds. The night that Amy disappeared, several high ranking Scientologists went to the Bradley's stateroom. They were dishonest when they claimed that they had been sent by the US Embassy. Many now believe that the Scientologists were attempting to recruit the Bradley family in their moment of extreme vulnerability. They were taking advantage of the family's fragile emotions. Scientology has sent cease orders to the Bradley family because of public accusations that have been made. These accusations now present a potential liability for them.

High Level Intelligence has absolutely verified that Amy Bradley was not kidnapped by Scientologists. It simply didn't happen. Alister Douglas did not work for Scientologists as some have claimed. The known sightings of Amy do not correlate with any Scientology activities. Valeska Paris is the Australian woman you are referring to. She has testified that Amy Bradley was never on the Freewinds during the many years that Valeska was imprisoned there. Valeska has personally contacted the Bradley family and assured them that Amy was not on the Freewinds or a part of Sea Org. High ranking Scientologists who have defected from the organization have verified that Amy was never part of Scientology, nor was she held as a prisoner. There are some people who have gravitated to this Scientology theory. The theory makes for great forum gossip by people who don't know much about Amy's case. This is an old possible theory that has been proven to be incorrect. It has been quite a few years since Scientologists have been considered as possible captors of Amy Bradley.

I thought I was fairly well informed on Amy's case, but apparently I was wrong, as I don't recall ever reading or hearing that Scientologists were suspected of being behind Amy's disappearance. Which gossip forums might you be referring to, as I guess I'm not familiar with them.

The thought, the question, of the possibility of Amy maybe having some prior contact or dealings with Scientologists just occurred to me today, thus my post. This was after reading about the Australian woman who was held captive for 12 years on their ship against her will; after reading an article about Katie Holmes fearing that the Scientologists were following her and that she fears for her and her daughter; after reading that Scientologists abuse and threaten their members, especially if they attempt to leave the cult, which is what it is imo; and after learning that the FBI agents that were investigating the Scientologists specialize in crimes involving human trafficking and that the Scientologists had been accused of crimes involving trafficking and forced labor.

People will always speculate given no other information, that's the nature of being human. I also don't consider myself or the other posters on this forum to be gossips, as this is not a gossip forum. We research, we investigate, we discuss, we share information, and at times we speculate. All of which is part of sleuthing, imo, and necessary to effectively and thoroughly examine and explore all sides, all angles and any possibilities.

As far as your comments, I'm more than a little surprised that you are giving out all this information. I thought you had posted that it was strictly privileged information and could be dangerous to Amy and the Bradley's to post it here. In fact, IIRC that information was removed at your urging wasn't it? :waitasec: But maybe I'm just a little , oh well, wouldn't be the first time, lol.

 

[FindAmy]

I looked at the find amy site, and I could not see anything about the various sightings, and I had never heard of the San Francisco sighting either. I could nto see any age progression of amy or efits of the men seen with her. Is this correct, or am I looking at the wrong site?

The information about sightings is not given on Amy's website. There isn't a need for an age progression image because she supposedly still looks much like she does in the artist sketch. Her hair is long and very thick. Her face looks the same. The artist sketches are very good sketches of men seen with Amy.


This is a photograph of Amy's face from the Venezuelan escort resort.

 

[FindAmy]

I thought I was fairly well informed on Amy's case, but apparently I was wrong, as I don't recall ever reading or hearing that Scientologists were suspected of being behind Amy's disappearance. Which gossip forums might you be referring to, as I guess I'm not familiar with them.

The thought, the question, of the possibility of Amy maybe having some prior contact or dealings with Scientologists just occurred to me today, thus my post. This was after reading about the Australian woman who was held captive for 12 years on their ship against her will; after reading an article about Katie Holmes fearing that the Scientologists were following her and that she fears for her and her daughter; after reading that Scientologists abuse and threaten their members, especially if they attempt to leave the cult, which is what it is imo; and after learning that the FBI agents that were investigating the Scientologists specialize in crimes involving human trafficking and that the Scientologists had been accused of crimes involving trafficking and forced labor.

People will always speculate given no other information, that's the nature of being human. I also don't consider myself or the other posters on this forum to be gossips, as this is not a gossip forum. We research, we investigate, we discuss, we share information, and at times we speculate. All of which is part of sleuthing, imo, and necessary to effectively and thoroughly examine and explore all sides, all angles and any possibilities.

As far as your comments, I'm more than a little surprised that you are giving out all this information. I thought you had posted that it was strictly privileged information and could be dangerous to Amy and the Bradley's to post it here. In fact, IIRC that information was removed at your urging wasn't it? :waitasec: But maybe I'm just a little , oh well, wouldn't be the first time, lol.

I don't recall referring to you as a gossip, Neesaki. If I recall, your post simply referred to activity by Scientologists and I responded with information about the Scientologists in relation to Amy's case. There are people who have pushed a theory that Scientologists were responsible for Amy's disappearance. I never said it was you or this forum, but unfortunately, it has taken place. I am simply telling Websleuths that the Scientology angle isn't accurate. I'm sorry you chose to take it personally, but I don't believe that I directed anything toward you or Websleuths.

The Bradley family would like very much to have Amy's case in front of Americans who travel to the Caribbean. This is why they chose to take part in the Vanished series. This is why they chose to have the Lifetime network portray Amy's disappearance. The Bradleys believe that their daughter is alive and they want her brought home. The information that I am sharing is not confidential information. Information was previously removed at my request because there was confidential information. I am aware of the difference.

I am very sorry that you don't like the information that I have provided about Amy Bradley.

 

[neesaki]

I don't recall referring to you as a gossip, Neesaki. If I recall, your post simply referred to activity by Scientologists and I responded with information about the Scientologists in relation to Amy's case. There are people who have pushed a theory that Scientologists were responsible for Amy's disappearance. I never said it was you or this forum, but unfortunately, it has taken place. I am simply telling Websleuths that the Scientology angle isn't accurate. I'm sorry you chose to take it personally, but I don't believe that I directed anything toward you or Websleuths.

The Bradley family would like very much to have Amy's case in front of Americans who travel to the Caribbean. This is why they chose to take part in the Vanished series. This is why they chose to have the Lifetime network portray Amy's disappearance. The Bradleys believe that their daughter is alive and they want her brought home. The information that I am sharing is not confidential information. Information was previously removed at my request because there was confidential information. I am aware of the difference.

I am very sorry that you don't like the information that I have provided about Amy Bradley.

My question came simply as a result of the information I have derived through a little research added in with the Scientologists approaching the Bradley's after Amy's disappearance. It was kind of an "aha" moment when it occurred to me that maybe Amy could have had prior contacts with them before the cruise, even through friends, what have you. If she had been involved with them and tried to leave their 'cult' (MOO), that would have even been a bigger red flag. But surely we would have known that long ago if that had been the case. Nothing more than an idea and just thought I'd throw it out there.

Also, I greatly appreciate any information that you or anyone else has to share, especially good solid facts, so nothing for me to not like, lol. Beyond that we're left with discussing theories, insights, brainstorming, and plain old intuition, which is ok too as long as the difference is clear.

Yes, I was more than a little surprised to see information posted that had previously been removed as it was declared earlier in the thread to be tabu. But I'm sure as you say it was a little different. Whatever the case, no worries.

 

[FindAmy]

My question came simply as a result of the information I have derived through a little research added in with the Scientologists approaching the Bradley's after Amy's disappearance. It was kind of an "aha" moment when it occurred to me that maybe Amy could have had prior contacts with them before the cruise, even through friends, what have you. If she had been involved with them and tried to leave their 'cult' (MOO), that would have even been a bigger red flag. But surely we would have known that long ago if that had been the case. Nothing more than an idea and just thought I'd throw it out there.

Also, I greatly appreciate any information that you or anyone else has to share, especially cold hard facts, so nothing for me to not like, lol. Beyond that we're left with discussing theories, insights, brainstorming, and plain old intuition, which is ok too as long as the difference is clear.

Yes, I was more than a little surprised to see information posted that had previously been removed as it was declared earlier in the thread to be tabu. But I'm sure as you say it was a little different. Whatever the case, no worries.

Neesaki, I am not able to explain why certain information was removed or what the information was. It could have involved parts of posts and not necessarily all of the posts.

 

[FindAmy]

Amy was seen on March 1, 2005 in the bathroom of a Bridgetown, Barbados department store. The American witness can't remember if the store was Harrison's or Cave Shepherd. Amy was with a group of four men. This was a valid sighting.


The photographs show the shopping area of Bridgetown.

 

[FindAmy]

This man was seen with Amy in the Barbados department store.