VA - Amy Bradley, 23, Petersburg, 24 March 1998 - #2 - ***READ FIRST POST***

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I'm sorry to have to ask, but can you tell me which of the photos was not from the AAV site?

TIA

Can't find it right now neesaki, but the one which is a bit more frontal, and where the fingers of her right hand are hooked into the waistband of her underwear.

HTH

ETA: Here's Randolph's post with the pic:

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I just had an incredibly eerie thought. If its possible she was used as a drug mule, that would certainly coincide with organized crime. Doesn't Chavez rule all in Venezuela? Could a syndicate be chartering through political avenues?
 
I couldn't find that pic either & wanted to back it up for my own notes after I read everything on the thread & saw that FA posted it. It's the same bed, though, as the other pics. I'll bet its on wayback somewhere. It's gonna drive me crazy looking for it...
 
Excerpt from nosyone’s post at:

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Ron Bradley then told us that he thought it was Amy and asked us NOT to post on the information or the images in order that whoever had Amy would not be "spooked," and that they, the parents, could get the information to the FBI. Ron told us on the phone, that the FBI had previously had difficulties when contacting either the owners or the people that knew where the girls were, and would probably prefer that we held back the information (We did not speak directly to the FBI ourselves since we thought the family was the ones to deal with the situation).
If the FBI “previously had difficulties when contacting either the owners or ….”. Owners of what … the source website?? If so, then it sounds as though the FBI were already aware of the website, and therefore the pics.

When Allan K provided the 2 pics to HySc, how did he provide them? Did he scan the pics, did he email the pics, did he not provide a link for HySc to check out the source? IF they checked out the source at the time, why would they later backtrack on where the pics were found?
 
I just had an incredibly eerie thought. If its possible she was used as a drug mule, that would certainly coincide with organized crime. Doesn't Chavez rule all in Venezuela? Could a syndicate be chartering through political avenues?

That's why earlier today i was questioning why FA posted that pic of the "cocaine mule" innards with no explanation or subsequent convo.
 
Can't find it right now neesaki, but the one which is a bit more frontal, and where the fingers of her right hand are hooked into the waistband of her underwear.

HTH

ETA: Here's Randolph's post with the pic:

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In this picture, it looks like the mattress is too large for the bed frame...notice the upper left corner of the mattress.
 
In this picture, it looks like the mattress is too large for the bed frame...notice the upper left corner of the mattress.

That came up a bit earlier Teche .. here's the explanation:

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Here is what I was referring to, hope OK to quote from Hyscience:

The below images are the exact images that were found on an adult site by a reader (Allan K) that searches for missing women on adult sites that may have been forced into prostitution. The only editing that was done was to enlarge the images and place them for comparison, before sending them to her father.


Allan K actively SEARCHES adult sites for women who are missing and may have been sold into prostitution.

Thus he approached this picture with a definite bias.

Now, I am **NOT** saying that this photo is not Amy. I'm simply saying that the way it was found should perhaps be factored in to any discussion.

I also feel that even if the picture is Amy, it doesn't get us much further in this case, tragically - it's an old picture and she would possibly look very different today, in 2012.

I am really puzzled by the lack of an age progression drawing in this case. Surely it would be vital in terms of someone, somewhere, hopefully recognising Amy and getting help there and then before she can be spirited away again....?
 
I couldn't find that pic either & wanted to back it up for my own notes after I read everything on the thread & saw that FA posted it. It's the same bed, though, as the other pics. I'll bet its on wayback somewhere. It's gonna drive me crazy looking for it...

Hey there kiddo .... don't drive yourself crazy as it is not in the wayback archives of the site. Doesn't mean it wasn't on the AAV site at some point but rather that it just is not on one of the archives of the AAV site. I questioned the 3rd picture right away to FindAmy and received the response that the 3rd picture was probably obtained from the Bradleys.

There is a 4th picture on the AAV site that I thought was Amy but after conversing with FindAmy who conversed with the Bradley's Iva said that it was not Amy so the convo was dropped at that.

eleph
 
Eleph!!! So glad to see you!

We found a few things...

I've been using wayback for the past few days & researching every single link. One that I find extremely interesting is the gambling link. It says if you lose X amount of $ in a certain period of time then you get an escort of your choice. This is in 2002 I believe.

Also, was researching wildvacation & found a couple tidbits... Can't post it unless I can link it with proof.
 
Buncha azzaholas...

Some of the women look like they really like their job. A few don't seem that way. (Amy's) picture stands out. I've gone over so many links & pictures trying to find another girl on that bed that "Jas" is on. I'm talking a month, not a single one thus far.

i still say, when i look at the pictures on those sites, that it looks like a mix of pictures of actual people that might be escorts on their site along with pictures it looks like someone stole from a google image search. some of the pictures have an island locale look and others look like they could've been taken in minnesota. knowing the origin of the possibly-amy pictures would go a long way towards knowing which of the two options are correct - 1) aav really did have amy (or her doppleganger) on staff as an escort or 2) aav grabbed pictures of amy (or her doppleganger) from somewhere else on the internet and used them. if it's 1 then we're really close to finding whoever is in the pic, if it's 2 then we're barking up the wrong tree and knowing where they came from could lead us to whoever is in the pic (hopefully amy).
 
That pic of Amy on that particular bed, is the only pic on that particular bed.... and that's about all I can say... beyond that, that's all I can say regarding these photos, as I'm not going back to that site..., sickening and extremely demeaning to women. IMO.

exactly, and looking at the room/background in the other pictures you get the sense that most of these pictures weren't taken in the same location. as i've said before i think there's a decent chance that aav or one of its alter-egos wanted to look "legitimate" by showing that they have a variety of girls on their payroll so they very well may have trolled some amateur *advertiser censored* sites and stolen pictures.
 
Eleph!!! So glad to see you!

We found a few things...

I've been using wayback for the past few days & researching every single link. One that I find extremely interesting is the gambling link. It says if you lose X amount of $ in a certain period of time then you get an escort of your choice. This is in 2002 I believe.

Also, was researching wildvacation & found a couple tidbits... Can't post it unless I can link it with proof.

i think that's another angle to review - how much of what's posted on those sites is fairly verifiable b.s.? they seem to promise a lot of questionable stuff. if i remember correctly for something like $1500 you basically get a week at a resort with food/booze and unlimited escorts. then there's all this stuff about the place being booked solid on certain weekends, assuring the safety of guests, warnings to not use competitors because the island is unsafe, etc. for all that you have to contact some dude in canada. the whole thing is dodgy and suspect and i can't imagine anyone in their right mind handing these guys a credit card and going to a foreign country completely trusting that you won't end up in a horrible situation.

are there any sites that have legitimate reviews of aav and its ilk (read: reviews not obviously written by the people who run the place)? it'd be awesome to find someone who went there who would be willing to talk about how it was run because it might give us a better idea of whether ab was ever there - if someone said "yeah i went there and it was fun and legit and all the girls on the web site were there" then that's one thing, but if it's my best guess that you pay $1500 and probably by the end of the week are just glad to still have both your kidneys then it's probably a lot more likely she was never there. just my dos pesos.
 
exactly, and looking at the room/background in the other pictures you get the sense that most of these pictures weren't taken in the same location. as i've said before i think there's a decent chance that aav or one of its alter-egos wanted to look "legitimate" by showing that they have a variety of girls on their payroll so they very well may have trolled some amateur *advertiser censored* sites and stolen pictures.

Right, bc they're selling the "look" and not the services of "that specific person".

Side note: Hookers have been doing that for years on Craigslist btw. They pull photos off the web of somebody with their body type & appearance, then run the picture through an online hosting site with a scrambled http option (photobucket offers this), & then post those pics on Craigslist, cityvibe, eros, backpage, or wherever they're advertising theirself at the moment.
 
i think that's another angle to review - how much of what's posted on those sites is fairly verifiable b.s.? they seem to promise a lot of questionable stuff. if i remember correctly for something like $1500 you basically get a week at a resort with food/booze and unlimited escorts. then there's all this stuff about the place being booked solid on certain weekends, assuring the safety of guests, warnings to not use competitors because the island is unsafe, etc. for all that you have to contact some dude in canada. the whole thing is dodgy and suspect and i can't imagine anyone in their right mind handing these guys a credit card and going to a foreign country completely trusting that you won't end up in a horrible situation.

are there any sites that have legitimate reviews of aav and its ilk (read: reviews not obviously written by the people who run the place)? it'd be awesome to find someone who went there who would be willing to talk about how it was run because it might give us a better idea of whether ab was ever there - if someone said "yeah i went there and it was fun and legit and all the girls on the web site were there" then that's one thing, but if it's my best guess that you pay $1500 and probably by the end of the week are just glad to still have both your kidneys then it's probably a lot more likely she was never there. just my dos pesos.

Yes, underground forums that have multiple comments by patrons that liked their services as well as patrons that severely disliked their services. As hard as it is to believe, this company actually existed & thrived. I know I read that they could only take 6 reservations at any given time period but then they were looking into a different lease with a different locale that would allow 12-16 reservations. In looking further into it, it appears they used a few different "hotels" that weren't owned by them, therefore they were limited on the number of rooms they could lease bc the hotel owners didn't want a large amount of prostitution frequented by their establishment. If you ask me for a link I might hyperventilate bc I wouldn't even know where to begin to look for it. I just remember reading it. Definitely remember it. :)
 
Great sleuthing folks, but I'm seeing over and over within this thread that SoSueMe confirmed, verified, etc., that the photos are Amy Bradley. For the record, I have not personally verified any such thing. I do believe the photos are Amy based on what our Verified Insider FindAmy has told us about the photos. Websleuths stands by the verified insider and the information they have put forth to our members.

We've been told the FBI believe the photos to be Amy Bradley. As pointed out in previous posts, the FBI surely maintains advanced forensic photo technology which drew them to this conclusion. We're going on that premise, so to keep questioning whether the photos are Amy, is a waste of time and is derailing the discussion for the members trying to sleuth the photos, their origin and what can be determined by enhancing the photos.

Further, I'm seeing where members are confused as to whether Amy might have been taken for the sex trade. While this is always a possibility, and no one knows for sure, many close to the case feel it is unlikely and perhaps a red herring. Prostitution is legal in many of the areas where Amy has been sighted. It would stand to reason there would be many willing participants in this profession. I don't think anyone can definitively say Amy is not being used in this regard, so it's a possibility. Members have been asked to think outside the box, so while discussing Amy within the sex trade is not off limits, we'd like our members to expand their sleuthing to other areas as well. I've seen a lot of speculation as to why Amy may have been taken and we encourage this type of discussion. We feel you're doing some phenomenal work on this case.

We were given a rare opportunity when FindAmy came to our site in an attempt to dispel rumors and give our members a direction which might be helpful to the case. Dispelling rumors and correcting misinformation was the main goal for the verified insider, yet I still see references to misinformation found on other websites. We believe the information provided by FindAmy is the most current, up-to-date information on the case and we're fortunate to be privy to it. We prefer that our members consider the information put forth by FindAmy and leave the outdated misinformation behind.

Websleuths owners are often asked how many cases we've solved. We can't answer this question because frankly, we're never told. We're occasionally told when we've been helpful. Sometimes (not always) we're told when LE is reading a particular thread. The truth is, I think we've been helpful in many of the cases we've covered. You never know what tiny piece of the puzzle might fit nicely in a case or trigger another avenue for LE to follow. This is what we do because we have caring members with hearts of gold who care about victims, their families, law enforcement, justice and a better world. We're very proud of our members.

My point is, and I do have one, I see a lot of good, intelligent discussion on this case. We'd like you to concentrate on the latest information available to us and we believe that to be the information put forth by FindAmy.

Please carry on and thank you.
 
SoSueMe, thank you! I'm sorry I misunderstood. Either way its verified info that the pics are Amy, right?

Oooh, I just remember something. Be right back...
 
OK, so someone is going to have to help me think out of the box
There has to be some substantial gain involved to kipnap and hold a person hostage
Financial gain comes to mind, profit

So, if a Lady is kidnapped, held against her will, seen in public with handlers...what kind of crime are these people involved in?
I do need help
 
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