VA - Anjelica "AJ" Hadsell, 18, Norfolk, 3 March 2015 #10

[Ontario Mom]

hmm... he's doing his job well and with some class, is my impression, as most of the local press have pretty well. Not much has been lost through Hadsell blabber with MSM. Thank you for your critical and useful take in things, O M, always helps.

Oh I do think he's doing a good job of covering the case for the most part. Maybe it's just the casual banter caught on video between segments that annoyed me? Almost like he was buddy/buddy with WH instead of being an impartial 3rd party. I'm not really sure, just thinking out loud.

 

[FindHG]

Oh I do think he's doing a good job of covering the case for the most part. Maybe it's just the casual banter caught on video between segments that annoyed me? Almost like he was buddy/buddy with WH instead of being an impartial 3rd party. I'm not really sure, just thinking out loud.

There's something to be had there too , from what I gathered from the casual banter, it was, uh, informational, as my friends may say.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Breaking News: NPD responded to me via fb when i ask for the 411 on the case.

Norfolk Police are continuing the search for missing teenager Anjelica “AJ” Hadsell. The investigation into the circumstances surrounding her disappearance is continuing. We have not ruled out any possibilities, and we are pursuing all leads. We ask that anyone with information, or who has seen her since March 2, 2015, should call Norfolk Crime Line at 1-888-LOCK-U-UP.

 

[zapped]

I keep coming back to the one common thread that runs through this entire case.

Its WH.

He was there when the credit card was found, both times. He there when the jacket was found/planted, is one of the last people to talk to AJ and he was there when the clothes on the side of the road were found.

IMO, if its not him, its a close buddy or relative.

Has one "friend" been beside him (with the exception of the break -in) every single time these items were found?

Im just wondering because Ive heard WH's brother mentioned a few times now.

It all just seems a little too convenient and/or lucky to me. In comparison, they had hundreds of people searching for any sign of HG, on numerous occasions, and found far less.

 

[pittie_mcclure]

Sadly, yes, some would do exactly that. There is an element within our society that just REALLY hate cops, hate authority and think themselves smarter and more able and equipped to exact justice than the actual justice system. WH has made several statements during interviews that lead me to believe he's one of those guys. Such things as "I've conducted my own stuff" and his obvious dissatisfaction with what LE had been sharing with the family. Alluding to getting his gun and making a "sacrifice" for AJ (shooting Texty kid and going to jail for it), and saying "so what, some ways are unorthodox".

My sister-in-law was once married to a gem just like WH. Career criminal (and also a coke user, interestingly enough) who'd convinced her he'd changed but hated cops with every fiber of his being. If his step-son went missing, and even if he had nothing to do with it, he'd have acted the same exact way WH is/has. Trying to be the Big Man and controlling everything, talking to reporters, etc. It's some sort of bravado/alpha male thing that is seriously warped in criminal minds.

moo.

BBM

Yes I agree with everything you said. Habitual criminals like dangerous games, after all. . I still can't help but think this is above and beyond. Especially for the sniffles and the attempt to separate himself from his criminal past yet act so hard and downright threatening. And keyword, criminal.

If AJ left on her own would she have warned somebody? Was there anybody in her life she would have to say goodbye to? I still feel her need to leave would be urgent, because of immediate danger, so she wouldn't come back for her sisters? She wouldn't check the news to make sure WH was arrested or that her sisters were ok?

Why am I having such a hard time entertaining the idea that AJ ran on her own accord and is safe somewhere?! Ultimately that is the ending I want!

 

[Momoffourboys]

I keep coming back to the one common thread that runs through this entire case.

Its WH.

He was there when the credit card was found, both times. He there when the jacket was found/planted,is one of the last people to talk to AJ and he was there when the clothes on the side of the road were found.

IMO, if its not him, its a close buddy.

Has one 'friend" been beside him (with the exception of the break -in) every single time?

His brother/nephew seems to be his sidekick. IMO

 

[hisjerseygirl]

Sadly, in our collective effort to keep AJ the focus and figure out what really happened it takes sifting through, discussing, discarding, pursuing, discussing again, all the drama and lies. I just wish these people would have been honest from the beginning. If they REALLY wanted to #bringAJhome that's exactly what they would have done.


moo.

absolutely agree. it reminds me a lot of casey anthony, if i'm allowed to say that. of course, casey talked her head off (but i guess WH does that), but just surrounded by drama, lies and a circus.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Just a concerned suggestion here...but perhaps we should all think twice and consider carefully when discussing "Texty" ? IMO, there is absolutely NO reason for us to be poking around in this persons business, or unintentionally saying something that would out him to anyone reading along. He has never been named a person of interest in this case. AND, I think WH has tortured him enough already.

JMO, MOO, I'm not a mod, etc. etc...I just have a mama bear attitude where this kid is concerned.

Agreed 150%. Glad you said it, and the thanks button wasn't enough. I honestly think we need to be taking a MUCH sharper look at immediate family and lifestyles.

moo.

 

[beetrice]

I remember the media reporting that items had been gathered and bagged...but I took that as being potential evidence to be examined. We really don't know if what they collected turned out to be anything of substance or not.

No, no we dont. But the article or video I was speaking of was from media indicating there was an additional piece of something found. I feel it was Joe Fisher that reported this, could be wrong on that. But, if it wasnt connected to AJ, how could they say it was additional evidence,, it could be any old piece of anything with nothing to compare it to, dont you think?

We will just have to wait and see I know, so for me on this, it is a maybe.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Breaking News: NPD responded to me via fb when i ask for the 411 on the case.

Norfolk Police are continuing the search for missing teenager Anjelica “AJ” Hadsell. The investigation into the circumstances surrounding her disappearance is continuing. We have not ruled out any possibilities, and we are pursuing all leads. We ask that anyone with information, or who has seen her since March 2, 2015, should call Norfolk Crime Line at 1-888-LOCK-U-UP.

So they are not saying the 3rd plus they are still looking which means she hasnt talked to them.

But besides that; It simply reads like a standard message that they would copy and paste. But atleast we know that they are not saying she was seen on the 3rd. Atleast by anybody credible. Jmo

 

[FindHG]

I keep coming back to the one common thread that runs through this entire case.

Its WH.

He was there when the credit card was found, both times. He there when the jacket was found/planted, is one of the last people to talk to AJ and he was there when the clothes on the side of the road were found.

IMO, if its not him, its a close buddy or realtive.

Has one "friend" been beside him (with the exception of the break -in) every single time these items were found?

Im just wondering because Ive heard WH's brother mentioned a few times now.

It all just seems a little too convenient and/or lucky to me.

Hey you.

Sorry about leading you astray last night, and glad you're back.

 

[pittie_mcclure]

Sadly, in our collective effort to keep AJ the focus and figure out what really happened it takes sifting through, discussing, discarding, pursuing, discussing again, all the drama and lies. I just wish these people would have been honest from the beginning. If they REALLY wanted to #bringAJhome that's exactly what they would have done.

moo.

EXACTLY!! I don't think there's an explanation in the world that will help me make sense of the lies and misinformation spread by those closest to her. Period.

 

[hey-Debbie]

I keep coming back to the one common thread that runs through this entire case.

Its WH.

He was there when the credit card was found, both times. He there when the jacket was found/planted, is one of the last people to talk to AJ and he was there when the clothes on the side of the road were found.

IMO, if its not him, its a close buddy or realtive.

Has one "friend" been beside him (with the exception of the break -in) every single time these items were found?

Im just wondering because Ive heard WH's brother mentioned a few times now.

It all just seems a little too convenient and/or lucky to me.

BBM:
But actually there are other people that are involved too. Like the he stated that Andre and Collin were with him when he searched for the clues. He discussed that he had talked with other people about bring the evidence to light (jacket) for LE. Too many other people in that household also had access to the same information the WH had. You have other insiders here. WH is the only one we can really talk freely here about because he is the only one really that has brought himself into the limelight and done really stupid stuff to get himself there. I think there's other possible people we could consider but we just can't here based on rules and guidelines. IMO

 

[FindHG]

Breaking News: NPD responded to me via fb when i ask for the 411 on the case.

Norfolk Police are continuing the search for missing teenager Anjelica “AJ” Hadsell. The investigation into the circumstances surrounding her disappearance is continuing. We have not ruled out any possibilities, and we are pursuing all leads. We ask that anyone with information, or who has seen her since March 2, 2015, should call Norfolk Crime Line at 1-888-LOCK-U-UP.

Wow, DM. Thank you.

(do you mind if i use your initials?)

 

[Ontario Mom]

There's something to be had there too , from what I gathered from the casual banter, it was, uh, informational, as my friends may say.

Media Folk are a race unto themselves It's a craft I've had some negative experience with. Some are just sleezebags and we all recognize them a mile away - no two ways about it. Others use specific tactics to get the exact answers they want, much like LE trained in interrogation tactics. I'll grant that Joe might be using specific, targeted media training. I'm not above giving benefit of the doubt, but once that's shown NOT to be the case...

 

[katydid23]

Young people don't always think about protecting themselves. Heck, especially these days.

An adult teen might have known from seeing a parent or other person that cutting up a card is a good idea. Just how much that card should be cut to shreds, they might not know.

Again, we don't know details...but was that card an active card or a dead/expired one?

It was found. Cut strangely or suspiciously or not the way WH or JH or you or I might have cut it up?

The card is still a *maybe* for me.

I think an 18 yr old valedictorian would know the reason for cutting up a card. And it would make no sense that she would cut it in pieces, but then leave her ENTIRE NAME in tact. I think virtually every teen could figure that was a no-no. JMO

 

[zapped]

Hey you.

Sorry about leading you astray last night, and glad you're back.

Thats wasnt all on you my friend.I had a large part in that myself....and no worries.

 

[FindHG]

Media Folk are a race unto themselves It's a craft I've had some negative experience with. Some are just sleezebags and we all recognize them a mile away - no two ways about it. Others use specific tactics to get the exact answers they want, much like LE trained in interrogation tactics. I'll grant that Joe might be using specific, targeted media training. I'm not above giving benefit of the doubt, but once that's shown NOT to be the case...

Granted. His contact and query is far from sighing yes yes stuff, and draw information that Hadsell digresses from. If you review the questions, listen to the questions Hadsell outright avoids answering and how it gets asked from another angle.

 

[Hraefn]

I keep coming back to the one common thread that runs through this entire case.

Its WH.

He was there when the credit card was found, both times. He there when the jacket was found/planted, is one of the last people to talk to AJ and he was there when the clothes on the side of the road were found.

IMO, if its not him, its a close buddy or relative.

Has one "friend" been beside him (with the exception of the break -in) every single time these items were found?

Im just wondering because Ive heard WH's brother mentioned a few times now.

It all just seems a little too convenient and/or lucky to me. In comparison, they had hundreds of people searching for any sign of HG, on numerous occasions, and found far less.

Sorry to be nit picky, but according to WH he was not there when the first debit card piece was found.

WH: All I can tell you about this is a person.. I can explain how it happened and what was described to me and the police. A person of interest found part of her credit card. Now, understand why I say a person of interest. Because the first person to find the pieces of evidence could be a person of guilt, it could be coincidence. I don’t really believe in a whole bunch of stuff, I believe in fact. The fact is that this person found half of her credit card – the bottom half, the part with her name on it. This was Thursday. Thursday afternoon the first week she was missing, I don’t know the dates I just know it was the first week that she was missing on Thursday.
I got a call – I was at work out of town, not out of town, but an hour away. I wasn’t in my home residence, Norfolk home. But I was working and they called and said “so and so” found part of a credit card with her name. I didn’t ask questions at the time, rushed home whatever, the next day I organized a search party to search from my driveway up the road like you would be driving out of the neighborhood. That’s the only logical thing I can think do to. Now understand this, in that search party the searchers found three or four more pieces of the credit card after the evidence was found. I didn’t find anything. At all. It was searchers that found it I just happened to have the drive, the will to find out answers and we found more parts of the credit card.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1025uXR2A4W5cOl08c74yyTAfnP2z2upQdFdywZTtyEw/edit?pli=1

 

[Ontario Mom]

absolutely agree. it reminds me a lot of casey anthony, if i'm allowed to say that. of course, casey talked her head off (but i guess WH does that), but just surrounded by drama, lies and a circus.

CA was in an entirely different category & family dynamic. To this day there are still things that have not been made public by those that knew her and her parents. That being said, she did her share of lying that threw LE off base. Just like in this case.