VA VA - Codi Bigsby, 4, last seen at dad's home, Cory Bigsby (dad) named as POI, Hampton, 31 Jan 2022

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Better late than never I hope....Some of it may be a repeat as @tlcya :) did manage to catch quite a few of the questions.

Press conference 4th February.

Chief - This is easily one the the most comprehensive investigations that I've been a part of and it will continue to be. We would just like to remind everybody that we are all assembled her on behalf of 4 year old Codi Bigsby.
Codi Bigsby was reported missing by his father on January, 31st at about 9 o'clock in the morning. Mr. Cory Bigsby who is 43 year old male called 911 and reported that his 4 year old son Codi was missing. Mr. Bigsby reported that his son was missing from his home on Drive here in the city of Hampton. The Hampton police division responded, including our patrol division and our detective bureau as well. We immediately began searching inside and outside of the residence. Following our search of the residence and search of the surrounding area, we immediately contacted our partner agencies and deployed as many resources as we possibly could on that 1st day. That has continued up until today. While we were searching Mr. Bigsby and his children were transported to our Detective Bureau to help us with the investigation. Mr. Bigsby ulitmately through the investigation that we conducted was arrested and charged with 7 counts of felony child neglect. This was based on his report of leaving his children home alone. He reported that he left home alone his 5 year old, his 4 year old and his 2 year old twins. This was reported to have occured on numerous occasions. He reported that it was too much of a burden to bring his kids along with him. Our investigation is not over, it will not end with that arrest. In fact in some ways our investigation is going to start and become more intense now. Our partners in particular, our partners with the FBI have provided us with an extensive amount of forensic data for us to review and process and follow up on. That will take an extended period of time. We have many interviews to conduct. We still have areas to search and we have many leads to follow. We will not stop here with this arrest. With that, do you have any questions?

Reporter - I'm trying to find out, can you say when the last time that Codi...when was the last time Codi was actually seen by someone outside of his father or his family? And I say that in part because the court records indicate that on January 25th...well one of the charges pertain to leaving him alone on January 25th. I don't know if there's evidence that outside of the father for....you know, what is the evidence that you have....When was the last time he was last see I guess....?

Chief - I obviously won't speak to the evidence that we have specifically. We are still investigating the last time that Codi was seen alive and well by anyone. So if there's anybody out there that might be able to help us with that, we would like to know. The charges that speak to the events that occurred on January 25th are based on what we've done up until this point in the investigation.

Reporter - On being that there was no Amber Alert issued would Hampton Police Dept. be willing to stand behind the 'Codi Alert' that would alert citizens in a local area of kids gone missing, even if it just starts locally and expands from there. Would the Hampton Police Dept. support something like that?

Chief - I'd like to continue to focus on Codi Bigsby as the primary focus right now. At some point moving forward I think they'll be a lot of time to evaluate whether or not we do the right thing to keep all kids safe. I will say, Amber Alert is a great tool, it was created in 1996. In 2022 we're all connected. I don't think that we had any difficulty getting the word out about this missing child and to this day we're not having any difficulty with that.

Reporter - Chief one of the biggest questions that people are having in the community is "where is Codi's mother?", "is she being questioned?" What can you tell us to kind of put some of these questions that folks have to bed as to why she's not here scouring and searching for her son as well?

Chief - I appreciate everybody who's concerned and has those types of questions. I think we should all have questions when a 4 year old child goes missing. We know where his mother is, we've spoken to her and she has answered our questions.

Reporter - Is there someone else that could be involved in the disappearance of Codi that you're looking into, that maybe worked with him? Is that a possibility that you're looking into?

Chief - We've found no evidence to support someone else is involved.

Reporter - Chief I just have a quick question. Are you guys looking outside of the State of Virginia? Maybe some areas..... or are you focused just on Virginia?

Chief - Certainly we're interested in any information that would lead someone to believe he's outside of the City of Hampton or the State of Virginia. We're certainly interested in that. Again we have no information or facts or reasonable belief that that's the case.

Reporter - Chief is it still your belief that Codi Bigsby can be found alive? Do you still believe that 5 days after he was reported missing?

Chief - I will tell you that we are continuing to search and hope that we can bring Codi Bigsby home. With each day that passes we become more and more concerned and we lose a little bit more hope. Obviously the longer we go the more tragic it feels.

? Reporter - Chief. Is there any reason ya'll was doing searches at Harris Teeter's today and Starbucks and what about the (inaudible)?

Chief - Yes. Where we search we have a reason to search.

Reporter - Chief, is there any evidence that you found that CPS has intervened in Codi Bigsby's family, or followed up, like I know that there's a......

Chief - It would be inappropriate for me to answer that question.

Reporter - Why would LE only allow 50 citizens a day to assist and will that be a regular practice and not let more of the community assist, because there were hundreds of people that wanted to help and they were turned away from helping. So is that going to be a regular occurrence for folks missing if a four year old goes missing, there's only 50 citizens allowed to assist?

Chief - We encourage the public's participation. We had a tremendous amount and we continue to get a tremendous amount of support from the public. We ask for a specific number of citizens to help us on a particular day. We didn't want to extend our resources beyond what we could handle. The public is always welcome to go out, check their yards, check their trashcans, check areas that they may know. Re-check what you know that we did. We are certainly not sitting in some space where we want to prevent people from helping, but we got a significant amount of public support which we appreciate.

Reporter - Chief, is Cory Bigsby still co-operating and answering your questions at this time?

Chief - He is in a jail cell right now.

? Reporter - Chief, why was it so hard yesterday for his lawyer to get into the jail and speak with his...with the father. Why was the lawyer denied access yesterday to speak to his client?

Chief - Thank you. Mr. Bigsby is a 43 year old man who's had a full career in the Army. He retired from a position of authority, he seems to be quite intelligent, he seems to be quite capable and part of his capabilities seems to be understanding his rights. At no time did he request to see an Attorney. Had he made such a request, we would have honoured that request.

Reporter - Do you know that the children have like a regular babysitter? Who were they in contact with? Where are the other kids now?

Chief - We are not aware of a babysitter.

Reporter - Where are the other children?

Chief - They're safe and thriving.

Reporter - A few days ago you said abduction was just not what the evidence was pointing to. An abduction usually is some kind of violent act. Is there a chance he was handed off to a family member and a family member took that? Or would you put that under the umbrella of abduction?

Chief - There is no evidence that he was handed off to a family member. I will say I've known a few 4 year olds in my life, I don't know any who decide at any hour of the morning, when it's dark to leave their home. I don't know any that do that. I don't believe that that's what happened this time either.

? Reporter - Allegedly they say he was not here....y'all said on news multiple times he was here voluntarily. It's alleged he was not here voluntarily. Who would stay her for 4 days and their child missing? Was he held against his will, or in custody?

Chief - Next question please.

? Reporter - So that's a yes or no?

Reporter - Was he held against his will?

Chief - I think I answered.....

? Reporter - You didn't answer.

Chief - I'll repeat my response.....I'll repeat my response from earlier. Mr. Bigsby is a 43 year old man with a full career in the United States Army.....

? Reporter - Question again Chief - Was he here voluntarily or was he held here?

Chief - I'm going to finish my response miss.

? Reporter - Was he here voluntarily? It's a yes or no answer sir.

Chief - He is a capable man who had every opportunity....

? Reporter - You still haven't answered the question.

Chief - ....to ask for an attorney. He did not make such a request.

? Reporter - That was not the question.

Chief - If he would have made that request we would have honoured it.

? Reporter - That was not the question.

Reporter - We have his family here, can we here from them, can we hear from his family?

Chief - Next question please?

(lot's of people talking in background at this point)
Someone in the background said "he asked to leave and he asked for an attorney"

Reporter - Would these charges of neglect against Mr. Bigsby, would they have come about had this sweet little boy not gone missing?

Chief - I cannot answer that question. That would be speculation.

Reporter - When it comes to the search over the next few days. Is anybody pulling out resources or it's still going full force? Do we have enough resources to keep going full force?

Chief - We will continue to investigate all the leads that we have available and search the areas where we need to search.

Reporter - All agencies still helping if they can?

Chief - Yes, the agencies that have been helping have agreed to continue to help.

Reporter - Chief do you have a reason to believe that Codi Bigsby is alive?

Chief - Each day it becomes harder and harder to believe that Codi Bigsby is alive and well.

Reporter - Chief can you say when the last time his mother spoke to Codi?

Chief - No I cannot say.

Reporter - Do you know when the last time was?

Chief - I do not know.

Reporter - Has she been asked that question?

Chief - It would be inappropriate for me to answer that question.

Reporter - Chief I don't know if you can answer this...so when Cory contacted you all that his son was missing had he returned from one of these situations where he had left the children home and came home and Codi was missing or can you not comment on that?

Chief - I'm not going to comment on that.

Reporter - Chief for the record, some people regardless of their educational background.....still are not aware that they have the right to an attorney. So that being said, did he at any time or was he notified that he could have an attorney? Or if someone's family hires a lawyer to go see their client, isn't it permissible for the attorney to go see that person or that person......

Chief - Mr.....Sir, again for everybody, I'm here for a four year old child. I'm here for a four year old child. His father was made aware of his rights. His father was absolutely made aware of his rights. We will continue to do everything possible to find his son or his child that is permissible and appropriate. We have never taken a step that was impermissible or inappropriate.

Reporter - Chief can I ask you know a few days ago in a press conference you said you do not believe that Codi may have not gone missing when the 2 am time that was originally put out - can you say with confidence now that is not when he went missing?

Chief - What I said is that the facts that we had didn't match up with what we were being told in a number of cases. So we simply need to investigate more to determine when exactly he went missing.

? Reporter - Chief for the record - We are all here for the child, but we all are here also to make sure y'all don't lose the laws that has been constituted so that everybody is....required to have a fair trial. And if we're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until we prove our innocence.

Chief - Thank you.

Reporter - Chief do you feel like there's a disconnect between the community, law enforcement and city officials, just because the citizens still haven't heard anything from the Mayor, we still haven't heard anything from city council and you're the Chief of Police and the City Manager. These are the people the city looks up to and a lot of the community feels like there wasn't as much of a sense of urgency for this 4 year old you keep mentioning as there should be. We feel if there was a stronger local leadership this would have been on CNN, FOX News and every other outlet to try to find this 4 year old that we have been tirelessly searching for, for the last 4 days voluntarily. So do you feel if there is a disconnect between Law Enforcement, city officials and the community?

Chief - No, no. We've been supported completely. We've been supported by the Mayor, the City Manager, the Assistant City Manager, by other agencies, Fire Chief is standing up here with us. We've had a significant amount of support. I am the Police Chief, this is my responsibility to lead this investigation. I've had everything that I've need to lead this investigation. There is no disconnect. I will take one more question.

Reporter - You've asked for the public's help in putting together a timeline of the last days before Codi was last seen. Has that been helpful, have you been able to put together a timeline of his father's whereabouts and what he was doing?

Chief - We have a timeline that we're working on that still needs work. It's a work in progress.

Thank you so much.

You are the bestest. Saves so much time than replaying and searching the presser video.

BIG THANK YOU, :) :cool::D
 
@Allabouttrial thank you so much, I caught what I could between phone calls but yours is complete and you caught way more of the stuff I was struggling with even through replays. you rock!
No worries! I have to use my headphones as it's really difficult sometimes to hear what the reporters or spectators (in this case) are saying.
 
Good, bring on the video! I’m sure that it will show that police did not refuse any request by the suspect for a lawyer. Every suspect ever ends up saying that police violated their rights. Every suspect ever changes their story once they get a lawyer.
Defense attorneys exist to throw mud at law-enforcement. It’s their job. MOO
 
Did anyone follow Ariel's case in Hawaii? Did something similar happen to Codi? I wonder if LE has been able to interview the five-year old sibling? Missing girl's sister tells police of dog cage, father's ruse

Focusing on potentially what isn't matching up - what type of evidence are they collecting and how does contradict the story Cory told?
  • Real Estate agent said Cory never wanted to meet in person, however she did meet with him in November. Cory only had one child with him, she believes it was Codi. Is this the last independent sighting of him?
  • What types of things specific to Codi could be missing in the house? His bed, clothing? Was there a Dr. Appointment that everyone but Codi went too?
  • What about Christmas? Did anyone see him over the holidays?

I think they must have - the timeline for information starts "after Christmas".
 
I SWEAR TO GOD I LMAO AT #15. Freaking funny! Thanks!
Editing my post since @PommyMommy is on fire.
15. He has a <modsnip> sister who says he's a "cream puff."

Cream puffs can kill too if you choke on one.

And FWIW... I find it hard to believe a Sgt in the Army is a "cream puff" 100% of the time. MOO
 
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Regardless of what his attorney is saying, the Chief said this in the presser:

.......His father was made aware of his rights. His father was absolutely made aware of his rights. We will continue to do everything possible to find his son or his child that is permissible and appropriate. We have never taken a step that was impermissible or inappropriate........
 
Good, bring on the video! I’m sure that it will show that police did not refuse any request by the suspect for a lawyer. Every suspect ever ends up saying that police violated their rights. Every suspect ever changes their story once they get a lawyer.
Defense attorneys exist to throw mud at law-enforcement. It’s their job. MOO
They also come up with illogical stories that fall apart under questioning. It must all sound good in their heads when they are rehearsing it. Regardless, this side show is not helping to find Codi.
 
Haven't seen mention of a poly here; was he asked / did he agree? Seems that with four days of 'being helpful' that must have come up....
I agree, one would think it had to have come up, even if it was just CB, the good cooperative guy saying "I'll take a poly". But I think that attorney Ambrose would be screaming about that too if one in fact took place. So I am guessing one wasn't done/volunteered. Maybe LE did not want to request one because it would upset the "good old us men of uniform club" vibe they were using so effectively to keep Cory talking.
 
How did the father restain/contain these little ones for hours while he was out?

I'm a momma and a grandma, how do you keep a two, two year old twins, a 4 yo and a 5 yo safe and quite?

Did they cry out, were there injuries, did he go out at night or during the day?

So many questions....

My bestie's grandson started sleeping all night at weeks, per parents. She would keep him on the weekend, he screamed and cried, would not sleep. One Monday, she skips work and takes him to the pediatrician. She takes one look at this 3 week old and has STAT labs drawn. The parents were giving him Benadryl, every four hours so he would sleep. We highly suspected they were leaving him alone to go out partying. Fast forward 2 weeks, grandson test positive again and now bestie has GS. We were shocked, never would have thought, the baby could have died.

I think something happen when dad was away from home or he came home and found CB dead/critically injured. I believe CB is buried somewhere or discarded outside the area. He's smart enough to know the landfill/steam plant would be seaeched.

Hampton is very close to the NC line, lots of deep rivers just over the line, lots of country roads, farm, woody areas. I believe CB is well hidden.

Moo....
 
But being cooperative for four straight days and nights, never once leaving the station?? No way. There’s no way, in my opinion, that any person is going to just be all “I’m good, I’ll just camp out here, in this police station, for four days and nights answering all your questions voluntarily while my other children are where?” This is unheard of. Most people tap out at 7 hours not four days and four nights in a police station. Something is off here, and LE best have solid cctv of those entire four days and best hope he’s on video saying “nah, Imma stay.” Otherwise, the whole case gets tossed. IMO.

Yeah. Everything might be aboveboard and exactly as stated, but he wouldn't be the first person to have been held without food or rest for days until a confession could be extracted. More common with young men of color, but nobody is exempt. It does happen. I don't get that feeling from this LE, but on the other hand, the whole thing is weird. I am taking everything with a grain of salt until we get more information.

And please find Codi! That's what matters.
 
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FEB 5, 2022
‘We will not stop’: Search continues for Codi Bigsby; father charged with child neglect (msn.com)
[...]

Shortly after Cory Bigsby reported his child missing Monday from the neighborhood off Old Buckroe Road, he was taken to Hampton police headquarters for questioning. He remained there continuously — and police say voluntarily — until his arrest more than three days later.

[...]

Ambrose contended it was improper that police wouldn’t let him speak with his client. “Not to let anybody check is problematic,” he said.

At least two community members pressed Talbot about that issue at Friday’s news conference, with the Hampton chief responding that Bigsby did not ask for a lawyer during the time at police headquarters. Police have previously said he was there voluntarily until his arrest Thursday.

[...]

Bigsby was “absolutely made aware of his rights,” including his right to talk to an attorney, Talbot said. “Had he made such a request, we would have honored it.”

While at police headquarters, Bigsby was given a cot, a blanket and a pillow and had access to food, water and a shower, a local law enforcement source said.

But Ambrose said he spoke to Bigsby Friday afternoon at the Hampton City Jail, with Bigsby telling him that police wouldn’t let him talk to a lawyer.

“He advised me that he requested an attorney, that he requested not to answer any further questions, and that those requests were not honored,” Ambrose said. “He told me he was asking, ‘Can I go? I’d like to go home,’ and they were telling him no.”

Ambrose said he will be requesting the video footage of the interrogations.

[...]

Thank you
 
FEB 5, 2022
‘We will not stop’: Search continues for Codi Bigsby; father charged with child neglect (msn.com)
[...]

Shortly after Cory Bigsby reported his child missing Monday from the neighborhood off Old Buckroe Road, he was taken to Hampton police headquarters for questioning. He remained there continuously — and police say voluntarily — until his arrest more than three days later.

[...]

Ambrose contended it was improper that police wouldn’t let him speak with his client. “Not to let anybody check is problematic,” he said.

At least two community members pressed Talbot about that issue at Friday’s news conference, with the Hampton chief responding that Bigsby did not ask for a lawyer during the time at police headquarters. Police have previously said he was there voluntarily until his arrest Thursday.

[...]

Bigsby was “absolutely made aware of his rights,” including his right to talk to an attorney, Talbot said. “Had he made such a request, we would have honored it.”

While at police headquarters, Bigsby was given a cot, a blanket and a pillow and had access to food, water and a shower, a local law enforcement source said.

But Ambrose said he spoke to Bigsby Friday afternoon at the Hampton City Jail, with Bigsby telling him that police wouldn’t let him talk to a lawyer.

“He advised me that he requested an attorney, that he requested not to answer any further questions, and that those requests were not honored,” Ambrose said. “He told me he was asking, ‘Can I go? I’d like to go home,’ and they were telling him no.”

Ambrose said he will be requesting the video footage of the interrogations.

[...]

BBM

This clears up a lot of the questions. So, I guess it's a matter of who you believe.
 
FEB 5, 2022
‘We will not stop’: Search continues for Codi Bigsby; father charged with child neglect (msn.com)
[...]

Shortly after Cory Bigsby reported his child missing Monday from the neighborhood off Old Buckroe Road, he was taken to Hampton police headquarters for questioning. He remained there continuously — and police say voluntarily — until his arrest more than three days later.

[...]

Ambrose contended it was improper that police wouldn’t let him speak with his client. “Not to let anybody check is problematic,” he said.

At least two community members pressed Talbot about that issue at Friday’s news conference, with the Hampton chief responding that Bigsby did not ask for a lawyer during the time at police headquarters. Police have previously said he was there voluntarily until his arrest Thursday.

[...]

Bigsby was “absolutely made aware of his rights,” including his right to talk to an attorney, Talbot said. “Had he made such a request, we would have honored it.”

While at police headquarters, Bigsby was given a cot, a blanket and a pillow and had access to food, water and a shower, a local law enforcement source said.

But Ambrose said he spoke to Bigsby Friday afternoon at the Hampton City Jail, with Bigsby telling him that police wouldn’t let him talk to a lawyer.

“He advised me that he requested an attorney, that he requested not to answer any further questions, and that those requests were not honored,” Ambrose said. “He told me he was asking, ‘Can I go? I’d like to go home,’ and they were telling him no.”

Ambrose said he will be requesting the video footage of the interrogations.

[...]
There’s a lot to pick apart here. To be sure it would be very unusual for someone to stay at the police station for 3 days while LE was searching for his missing son.
However, could there be circumstances where it may happen? Maybe.
Your home is sealed so LE can conduct a search and collect forensic evidence. You ask to go home. LE says “no” not while the search is ongoing. You say you have nowhere to go. LE says you are welcome to stay there. You are (allegedly) given a cot, blanket, and pillow, access to a shower, food, and water.
You don’t leave the station because LE will not let you participate in the search, you do not want to face the media, and you wish to show that you are completely cooperative.
As his story is not adding up right from the beginning, LE isn’t going to kick him out. They are happy to let him stay. As they get more information, they ask more questions.
I believe this Chief is smart and experienced. There is no way, in such a high profile incident, that I think this department would do anything that would jeopardize their case. I believe the father was given his Miranda warning and that he understood it. He was involved with the courts before and knows the process.
The Chief says they are there for Codi. This means they want justice for Codi. To risk his case being tainted would be unacceptable.
I am sorry to see that some local folks are turning against the police, making accusatory statements that would seem to imply that LE is not giving this child or his father all the same effort or due process they might give to someone with a different economic or racial background. From what I can see, LE pulled out every stop to bring in all possible resources right from the beginning.
Some folks are also implying that LE is not giving this case full effort because they are only allowing 50 citizens to search at a time. This is a matter of logistics, not prejudice.
Let’s concentrate on hoping that LE finds out what happened to Codi very soon and the perpetrator behind his disappearance is punished to the full extent of the law.
 
I've been following this conversation on whether or not Cory's rights were violated at the station. It certainly is an unusual situation for someone to be at a police station voluntarily for days. As an attorney, here are my 2 cents:

First, it's not going to make much difference in charges related to Cori's disappearance, except maybe the neglect charge, because the recourse for any constitutional rights violation is that the information gained during that rights violation can't be used in a criminal proceeding against the accused. The recourse for the rights violation is not that someone isn't criminally charged, just that the information illegally obtained can't be used against that person. It doesn't appear that Cory told LE much of anything about where Codi is or what happened to him, except that he left the kids alone. So basically, it doesn't appear that there are any statements that can be thrown out and even if his rights were violated, he can still be charged with other evidence (except perhaps for the neglect charge if LE is relying solely on statements for these charges, not, for example on the fact that he bought a car with no kids in tow).

Second, no matter what any defense attorney says, LE was not legally required to tell Cory that his family hired an attorney. The defense attorney likely knows this because he says “Not to let anybody check [whether Cody wants an attorney] is problematic” - not "illegal," not "unconstitutional" but "problematic," which has no legal relevance. LE said it best in that press conference "He's a smart, grown man who could have aske for an attorney if he wanted one." Note that LE says Cory was “absolutely made aware of his rights,” including his right to talk to an attorney, Talbot said. “Had he made such a request, we would have honored it.” So there likely would have to be a hearing on this issue.

MOO - I'm going to bet that this LE has documented the voluntariness throughout Cory's stay at the police station. They may have fed him some lines "the best thing you can do for Codi is to stay here and help us" but deceit by LE is legal. The US Supreme Court has said so clearly. And if I was LE looking for a missing 4-year old whose parent told me he left his 5, 4, 2 and 2 year olds alone and had a story that didn't add up, I'd do whatever it took, within the bounds of the law, to try and find that little boy.

SBM, BBM
Ambrose contended it was improper that police wouldn’t let him speak with his client. “Not to let anybody check is problematic,” he said.

At least two community members pressed Talbot about that issue at Friday’s news conference, with the Hampton chief responding that Bigsby did not ask for a lawyer during the time at police headquarters. Police have previously said he was there voluntarily until his arrest Thursday.

[...]

Bigsby was “absolutely made aware of his rights,” including his right to talk to an attorney, Talbot said. “Had he made such a request, we would have honored it.”

While at police headquarters, Bigsby was given a cot, a blanket and a pillow and had access to food, water and a shower, a local law enforcement source said.

But Ambrose said he spoke to Bigsby Friday afternoon at the Hampton City Jail, with Bigsby telling him that police wouldn’t let him talk to a lawyer.

“He advised me that he requested an attorney, that he requested not to answer any further questions, and that those requests were not honored,” Ambrose said. “He told me he was asking, ‘Can I go? I’d like to go home,’ and they were telling him no.”

Ambrose said he will be requesting the video footage of the interrogations.

[...]

Yeah. Everything might be aboveboard and exactly as stated, but he wouldn't be the first person to have been held without food or rest for days until a confession could be extracted. More common with young men of color, but nobody is exempt. It does happen. I don't get that feeling from this LE, but on the other hand, the whole thing is weird. I am taking everything with a grain of salt until we get more information.

And please find Codi! That's what matters.
 
So stuck on the leaving toddlers alone o_O

I know 2 boys that were constantly left home alone to fend for themselves. They were 3 and 2 years old at the time. The 3 year old would "take care" of his little brother and feed him. They sometimes ate ketchup. They were given back to their parents over and over again, but finally were taken away when they were 5 and 4. When they were adopted, they would sleep together (even as teens) because they had formed such a strong bond of attachment with each other starting at young ages. As adults, the oldest remembers more of that time. It has always horrified me what they went through.

I also recently read an article about a mom that left her two home alone while she flew away on vacation with her boyfriend. It is unbelievable to me! She told them to "eat candy" at one point when they were hungry and made them stay in the basement so the neighbors wouldn't see them home alone. They were not toddlers, but they were left all weekend!!! I will NEVER understand! Conn. Mom Allegedly Left 2 Kids Home Alone, Told Them to Stay in Basement While She Vacationed in Fla.

It is a miracle that these babies did not get hurt every day that they were alone!!!
 
I've been following this conversation on whether or not Cory's rights were violated at the station. It certainly is an unusual situation for someone to be at a police station voluntarily for days. As an attorney, here are my 2 cents:

First, it's not going to make much difference in charges related to Cori's disappearance, except maybe the neglect charge, because the recourse for any constitutional rights violation is that the information gained during that rights violation can't be used in a criminal proceeding against the accused. The recourse for the rights violation is not that someone isn't criminally charged, just that the information illegally obtained can't be used against that person. It doesn't appear that Cory told LE much of anything about where Codi is or what happened to him, except that he left the kids alone. So basically, it doesn't appear that there are any statements that can be thrown out and even if his rights were violated, he can still be charged with other evidence (except perhaps for the neglect charge if LE is relying solely on statements for these charges, not, for example on the fact that he bought a car with no kids in tow).

Second, no matter what any defense attorney says, LE was not legally required to tell Cory that his family hired an attorney. The defense attorney likely knows this because he says “Not to let anybody check [whether Cody wants an attorney] is problematic” - not "illegal," not "unconstitutional" but "problematic," which has no legal relevance. LE said it best in that press conference "He's a smart, grown man who could have aske for an attorney if he wanted one." Note that LE says Cory was “absolutely made aware of his rights,” including his right to talk to an attorney, Talbot said. “Had he made such a request, we would have honored it.” So there likely would have to be a hearing on this issue.

MOO - I'm going to bet that this LE has documented the voluntariness throughout Cory's stay at the police station. They may have fed him some lines "the best thing you can do for Codi is to stay here and help us" but deceit by LE is legal. The US Supreme Court has said so clearly. And if I was LE looking for a missing 4-year old whose parent told me he left his 5, 4, 2 and 2 year olds alone and had a story that didn't add up, I'd do whatever it took, within the bounds of the law, to try and find that little boy.

Thank you for the legal clarification. That does make me somewhat less worried that they might have overstepped in their zeal to find Codi.

I mean, I don't really think that Cory didn't cause Codi's disappearance. But I strongly believe even the lowest scum deserves a fair trial and all that implies.
 
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