Everything that happens to a human throughout their life shapes the person they are. I think pointing to something exact like horrorcore as being a deciding factor on becoming a murderer is a bit much though. I think 99% of all people could listen to horrorcore, watch horror movies, love hunting, and be pathologists, and they would still know murder is wrong and would never harm anybody.
I also dont think the Manson murders compare to this crime at all.
I'm confused as to what you're trying to say because right after you said the above statement you then said....
Originally Posted by Nikolai View Post
The majority of murderers in the world likely had nothing to do with any sort of violent music or entertainment at all. I think people are just born with that kind of violence and hate in them. There were always people we knew as kids and growing up that were just mean and hateful people, even to the point of physically hurting people. And there are those that never show signs of it. These same type of people are going to be the most likely murderers once they have their particular motive to commit it. I think there is nothing we can do about it, people are going to be born with the capability of committing murder.
I have to disagree that some people are born evil. Some people may very well be born with mental disabilities yes, but it's up to society what you teach that person with that disability. For instance, there are 2 children that I know personally who are both very much grown now, but they have a mental disability. One was raised by a very loving and caring mother, who never cursed around him or never showed him any negative influences. The child is 25 now and nice and polite with manners just as you or I. The other on the other hand, was raised by a mother whom had nothing to do with him and when she did show him a little attention it was always something negative. This kid has grown up to be violent, rude and obnoxious in a terrible way. His mother just uses his disability as an excuse for the way he is, when in all reality even mentally challenged people can learn behaviors just as we do, it's what is taught and learned or (in psychological terms) imprinted that matters most.
It's all about what is being implanted into you. As the sayings go, "if you flock with geese, you fly like geese" or "if you lay with dogs, you act like dogs" which ever saying you prefer, there are tons of these sayings.
I'm not saying that people can't be born with chemical imbalances at all, i'm just saying that if you think about it, you never really know someones a murderer until they're grown or at least to the age of some maturity. There aren't many children I know that have killed someone intentionally. Not saying that it doesn't happen but it's very rare. Which leads me to believe that the evil is learned, because it took them that long to learn it.
I have taken abnormal psychology, developmental psychology, and principles of psychology and everyone of them will tell you the same things, just in more technical terms.
People have mental illnesses all the time and never become murderers. I'm not just talking about your typical metal retardation either, i mean as in imbalances in the brain, but I believe it's all about how you're taught to handle situations.
here's the definition of imprinting taken from wikipedia...
Imprinting is the term used in psychology and ethology to describe any kind of phase-sensitive learning (learning occurring at a particular age or a particular life stage) that is rapid and apparently independent of the consequences of behavior. It was first used to describe situations in which an animal or person learns the characteristics of some stimulus, which is therefore said to be "imprinted" onto the subject.