VA - Hannah Elizabeth Graham, 18, Charlottesville, 13 Sept 2014 - #2

[Inthedetails]

The videos give clues, but also more questions...

 

[tarabull]

The video is from each store front as they (& other people) pass all spliced together.

After a/THE guy passes - at 26 seconds she is following a/THE guy...
At 53 seconds we see her - and now a/THE guy stepping out to follow her.

 

[sarx]

She also is walking at a good clip and doea not seem to be having any trouble walking.

 

[DocBrew]

Parker Slaybaugh @Parker8News · 19s
BREAKING: Here is the newest security video to be released in the Hannah Graham case.

Again...BREAKING: The... http://fb.me/76XZdLZ0Z
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That's her, and that's not a reflection. The person she is with has different clothes/build. I don't know why LE said that.

 

[snowleopard]

I'm with you. I don't see Hannah at all. The woman in the foreground is obviously not her. I'm confused.

Claudia, use this link from above: http://fb.me/76XZdLZ0Z , its a series of clips, not just the one from the news reports, very obvious a man in light clothing watches her approach, then step behind her to follow her....very creepy......

 

[Skigirl]

Guys, Look at both videos. Ignore the two women in the first one. Focus on the guy with dreads walking left->right at the front, and then up in the upper right corner.

http://www.wric.com/global/Category...rt=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=10596098

Then look at the facebook one. I think the dreadlock guy is the one that the "doorway" guy said he saw her with. Ugh, ugh ugh.

http://fb.me/76XZdLZ0Z

 

[Stormy415]

okay. that white dude is a huge creep. seems like he was more entranced by her than deeply concerned. he was acting sly and like, peeking out from corners.
it's not like she was staggering drunk. and she had a woman walking with her at points. and why would he choose to basically stalk her instead of ask if she was alright?
i think we have our abductor.

i feel like the police just want to give him a false sense of security by 'believing' his BS.

I think he may be the abductor too! Creepy!

 

[tarabull]

(from NBC12's Facebook)

The 1st man was a white male

Police will pull more surveillance video to see where the black male and Hannah went

:bump:

THAT white guy better hope they find more video.

 

[leilarose68]

A responsible adult with good intentions would call for help if they were truly worried about her. This is an older man, and a stranger. Even if he did approach her he may scare her. What he SHOULD have done if he only had good intentions would be call the police and ask them to come out to the mall to speak with her and check if she is okay or needs help getting somewhere safe.

ehh i don't think dudes call the police if an adult woman looks vaguely drunk. that just doesn't seem like something people do.

 

[Nereid]

Could she really have been THAT unlucky to have TWO potential abductors follow her?? I wonder about her demeanor.. Was she upset? Her gait it so hurried.

 

[YeahGoatYeah]

Look at the facebook one. Suddenly the first one makes more sense. I think the guy in the foreground with the dreads may be the one who subsequently has his arm around Hannah.

Agree

 

[leilarose68]

Guys, Look at both videos. Ignore the two women in the first one. Focus on the guy with dreads walking left->right at the front, and then up in the upper right corner.

http://www.wric.com/global/Category...rt=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=10596098

Then look at the facebook one. I think the dreadlock guy is the one that the "doorway" guy said he saw her with. Ugh, ugh ugh.

http://fb.me/76XZdLZ0Z

i thought the dreads guy was a woman!
okay. that makes more sense.

gah so weird that the white dude was following her around tho, even if he was concerned. i guess if he's innocent, that's why he didn't come forward? he looks so guilty. i mean, if they don't find more footage with the black dude... i can understand why the white guy would be so reticent to come forward. he was probably terrified.

 

[Claudette]

Ok watched this full screen.

She is NOT walking with anyone. That is indeed her reflection. Pause it when you see two people.

The videos are NOT in chronological order. The second video is actually first- the guy that pops out right behind her is in fact the heavy-set white man following her in the first video.

 

[Dixie811]

ehh i don't think dudes call the police if an adult woman looks vaguely drunk. that just doesn't seem like something people do.

Maybe it's not realistic. But that is what would have resulted in a better ending for Hannah. Not stalking her and then ultimately still failing to help her. Supposedly she looked vulnerable enough that he was 'worried' enough to follow her.

Then waiting days to come forward right before you are about to be outed in the media.

 

[Claudia]

That's her, and that's not a reflection. The person she is with has different clothes/build. I don't know why LE said that.

Agree it's not a reflection. The man behind her doesn't have a reflection, but she does? And why would her reflection have on different colored pants? [emoji53]
If I'm seeing it differently from y'all, please let me know, but that's what I'm seeing...

 

[Inthedetails]

Guys, Look at both videos. Ignore the two women in the first one. Focus on the guy with dreads walking left->right at the front, and then up in the upper right corner.

http://www.wric.com/global/Category...rt=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=10596098

Then look at the facebook one. I think the dreadlock guy is the one that the "doorway" guy said he saw her with. Ugh, ugh ugh.

http://fb.me/76XZdLZ0Z

It's like the two (Hannah and the dreads guy) are walking around looking for each other. The doorway creeper just might be a red herring?

 

[sarx]

Ok watched this full screen.

She is NOT walking with anyone. That is indeed her reflection. Pause it when you see two people.

The videos are NOT in chronological order. The second video is actually first- the guy that pops out right behind her is in fact the heavy-set white man following her in the first video.

I am having to view it on my phone which is definitely hampering things!

 

[Skigirl]

Guys, Look at both videos. Ignore the two women in the first one. Focus on the guy with dreads walking left->right at the front, and then up in the upper right corner.

http://www.wric.com/global/Category...rt=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=10596098

Then look at the facebook one. I think the dreadlock guy is the one that the "doorway" guy said he saw her with. Ugh, ugh ugh.

http://fb.me/76XZdLZ0Z

Now I'm not so positive about Dreadlock guy, but if you look at the first video -- again -- totally ignoring the red-herring heavy-set women, look in the upper part of the screen. The guy who eventually steps out of the doorway is alone. He walks across the top of the screen right to left. He steps back into a doorway. Hannah can then be seen from the right, top, walking toward the doorway. Cut to the second video, he steps out behind her. Very, very creepy.

 

[carbuff]

I think the video is a little speeded up relative to real time -- many CCD type cameras don't take a steady picture, they take a series of snaps, so when you play them back, they look jerky and rushed.

This came up in Lyric and Elizabeth's case, where the video of them on their bikes made it look like they were really flying by, but it was an illusion from the camera's slow frame speed.

 

[DocBrew]

I have watched it three times and I swear I keep seeing two different men. The first looks thicker and wearing jeans, the second, younger and clearly wearing shorts. And I see her clearly in all of the clips with her crop top and black leggings. I also am seeing someone in white alongside her in one clip.

It's two different men. Has to be. Clear distinctions between the two. Also, I don't care what LE says, that other 'girl' is not a reflection. Totally different garb and size. JMO.